Anonymous
11/22/2024 16:13
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.
This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.
Um.. your great grandmother didn't live in a tech heavy society. She lived in a society where a HS education could get you a decent paying job. That's not the case anymore.
Wow, some people are seriously dumb about education.
According to Joe Biden, he has created many high paying jobs that do not require a college education. He is encouraging people to go into the trades. Boeing agreed to a three years contract with its machinist union that would see average pay at around $106,000 a year in three year. How many educated people are making $106,000 year?
Anonymous
11/22/2024 16:11
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
It’s the poor rural schools that will suffer more than they already do now.
And in red states in the South, that means Black people.
It’s unnerving to see ostensible progressives cheer this on as some sort of FAFO.
Wait, what? How are liberals to blame for red state school boards screwing over their own (low income) kids?
The history of public schools in the south is horrible especially in those country little towns. A lot of white students already don’t go to public schools or are in really chopped up school districts. A lot of these rinky dink majority African American towns have little private Christian schools that all of the white students go to. Look up segregation academies for some context.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 16:01
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
It’s the poor rural schools that will suffer more than they already do now.
And in red states in the South, that means Black people.
It’s unnerving to see ostensible progressives cheer this on as some sort of FAFO.
Wait, what? How are liberals to blame for red state school boards screwing over their own (low income) kids?
Anonymous
11/22/2024 15:58
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
It’s the poor rural schools that will suffer more than they already do now.
And in red states in the South, that means Black people.
It’s unnerving to see ostensible progressives cheer this on as some sort of FAFO.
That really is not the unnerving part of this.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 15:57
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
It’s the poor rural schools that will suffer more than they already do now.
And in red states in the South, that means Black people.
It’s unnerving to see ostensible progressives cheer this on as some sort of FAFO.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 15:46
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
It’s the poor rural schools that will suffer more than they already do now.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 15:42
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.
Do you know why the DOE was created?
Also, some backward states will have a low bar for academic performance and measurements, like they could force teachers to teach creationism in science rather than actual science. Those kids will be at a disadvantage for college admissions. Oh, that's right.. MAGA don't think people should go to college, except for the children of MAGA leaders. I guess your goal is to keep the base stupid.
Are there creationist colleges? They would have an advantage in getting admitted to those.
Maybe Oral Roberts college or Liberty?
The MITs of creationism.
Hey now. Liberty U has a medical school. If you’re taken to an ER in VA there’s a real chance that the physician praying over you is an alumnus. (!!)
I've had one of these idiots. Just a tip: if you go into a doctor's waiting room and they have pictures of Jesus standing behind doctors while they are working, step right back out of that waiting room.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 15:40
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Very true. Assume most people in power in red states don't care anyhow.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 14:30
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since the DoEd's inception, US school test scores have consistently declined. Send the power back to the people. Not a gov mandated curriculum.
Do you know why the DOE was created?
Also, some backward states will have a low bar for academic performance and measurements, like they could force teachers to teach creationism in science rather than actual science. Those kids will be at a disadvantage for college admissions. Oh, that's right.. MAGA don't think people should go to college, except for the children of MAGA leaders. I guess your goal is to keep the base stupid.
Are there creationist colleges? They would have an advantage in getting admitted to those.
Maybe Oral Roberts college or Liberty?
The MITs of creationism.
Hey now. Liberty U has a medical school. If you’re taken to an ER in VA there’s a real chance that the physician praying over you is an alumnus. (!!)
Anonymous
11/22/2024 14:11
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.
This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.
Um.. your great grandmother didn't live in a tech heavy society. She lived in a society where a HS education could get you a decent paying job. That's not the case anymore.
Wow, some people are seriously dumb about education.
Only because we now require a college degree to work at the Gap as a sales clerk.
This is an exaggeration and lie. But the fact remains, being educated is a lifelong pursuit regardless of what job anyone has. In a democracy, having an educated electorate makes for a better country.
You can vote long before you have a college degree. So that argument is rather specious.
The unnecessary credentialing of jobs has only watered down the bachelor's degree. Posters here seem to think only T-insert number universities matter, but Pepperidge Farms remembers when any college degree was more than a commodity for sale to the highest bidder.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 14:11
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Pretty much. And the good public schools in red states tend to be in high income areas that are not dependent on federal subsidies. 14 of the 25 best public high schools in America are in red states, so it's not like they've abandoned public education. They just prefer local control and the easy availability of charters and private schools. Red states will be fine with the abolition of the Dept. of Education.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 13:58
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
So is the Trump plan just to repeal the IDEA etc? Because it’s the funding that gives the federal government authority to legislate here and there needs to be a federal agency to oversee all that. Is the plan to just merge remaining functions into HHS?
Anonymous
11/22/2024 13:56
Subject: Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
There is a gross misunderstanding on this board of what the Dept of education does.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 12:34
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.
Looking at how they voted, it looks that way. Lots of non-rich voters voted for it.
Anonymous
11/22/2024 12:32
Subject: Re:Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC
Anonymous wrote:
The point is that the red States voted to no longer get education subsidies from the federal government. They are on their own and that is how they want it.
A lot of blue States, strong in education, aren't getting Federal money right now to do it. You're not going to miss something you don't have anyway.
Red states are fine with that. The rich, white kids go to private schools. Nobody else matters.