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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:just watched ann seltzer interviewed on rachel maddow's show. she's very confident about her poll.

seltzer says senior women (over 65) are breaking 2 to 1 for harris. and while trump is still winning men overall in iowa, he's actually losing senior men to harris.

The notion that trump is losing senior men in Iowa is asinine.

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Anonymous wrote:just watched ann seltzer interviewed on rachel maddow's show. she's very confident about her poll.

seltzer says senior women (over 65) are breaking 2 to 1 for harris. and while trump is still winning men overall in iowa, he's actually losing senior men to harris.

The notion that trump is losing senior men in Iowa is asinine.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

Huge mistake. A lot of these women are old enough to have seen all of it. The difficult pregnancies, the infertility, the rapes, friends and family that have had an abortion, and on and on.

I don't think anyone knows better than a woman who's experienced it all, or knows a lot of people that have experienced it all, the critical importance of making your own reproductive decisions.

All 5 of them lied that it was settled law, but particularly Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorusch and Roberts - all are basically impeachable.

My 78 yo mother is horrified that her granddaughter will less rights to decide what to do with her body than she did. I am certain she is not the only one look at it through this lens.

+1. Three generations of my family all went together to support Harris in early voting.

And three generations of mine voted Trump. Your point?

I can’t imagine raising a daughter who is voting for a man who said he has the right to grab a woman by the p***y. I am so proud that my two daughters know that all of his words and behaviors are unacceptable. He’s been convicted of sexual assault. He cheated on his wife while she was pregnant. He will “take care of women whether they like it or not.” My daughters know to stay away from men like that. And they certainly wouldn’t vote for such a man to be elected as a leader.

My daughter is more pro life than I am! That’s the beauty of raising an independent and educated individual. They might just surprise you.

Well she's in for a hell of a fight if she thinks she's going to impose her views on my daughter.

Legislation is always a battleground but that’s what democracy is all about.

You're not going to legislate away fundamental rights without a mother of a fight. Harris is pro-choice and her position accommodates whatever reproductive decisions your daughter makes for herself. Don't let your daughter ever settle for anything less.

9 people in black robes say it's not a fundamental right. So just go to a state that lets you end it without a problem

1. There will be a nationwide ban if Trump and Vance have their way.

2. It was 5 people in black robes, three of whom were Trump appointees, 4 of whom were men, and 1 of whom lied on the stand and said it was "settled law."

3. If your daughter is pro-life, that's awesome. I support her in never having an abortion. No one will force her to do anything. That's all anyone is asking here -- the right to make their own decisions.

All 5 of them lied that it was settled law, but particularly Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorusch and Roberts - all are basically impeachable.

+1 all of them lied.

Anonymous wrote:just watched ann seltzer interviewed on rachel maddow's show. she's very confident about her poll.

seltzer says senior women (over 65) are breaking 2 to 1 for harris. and while trump is still winning men overall in iowa, he's actually losing senior men to harris.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

This. Women vote to improve and protect the community.

A lot of post menopausal women are pro life or happy with this decided at the state level. This random twitter lady doesn’t speak for all women.

I don’t know a single post-menopausal woman who would want the state deciding this if it was their daughter who was raped and pregnant— I know plenty of Catholics and I think some of them might even carry that baby but to pretend they know the answer for everyone? No

Almost all states have rape exceptions.

Jfc, as if that makes it a good thing.

It was dumb to argue as if it is an either or question. You can have state abortion limitations that account for the rare cases of rape induced pregnancies.
And most states do.

You realize that real women live under these draconian laws which you gloss over with your the language of “most” and “almost all”. It’s gross.

Those real women are voters in the states with those restrictions. Unlike with roe vs wade, they can take actions from campaigning to voting to enact the regulations that most match their values.

You seem to forget that pro life women exist.

What I don’t understand is it’s going to soon affect pregnant women, especially with high risk of unknown complications, in those states because doctors and specialists are leaving Florida and Texas and the South in record numbers. Nobody thinks of the unintended consequences.

They think about them. They have been told ad nauseum and they do not care. Women's lives are utterly unimportant to them (of course they somehow believe their wives and daughters will somehow be protected)

Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

Huge mistake. A lot of these women are old enough to have seen all of it. The difficult pregnancies, the infertility, the rapes, friends and family that have had an abortion, and on and on.

I don't think anyone knows better than a woman who's experienced it all, or knows a lot of people that have experienced it all, the critical importance of making your own reproductive decisions.

My 78 yo mother is horrified that her granddaughter will less rights to decide what to do with her body than she did. I am certain she is not the only one look at it through this lens.

+1. Three generations of my family all went together to support Harris in early voting.

And three generations of mine voted Trump. Your point?

I can’t imagine raising a daughter who is voting for a man who said he has the right to grab a woman by the p***y. I am so proud that my two daughters know that all of his words and behaviors are unacceptable. He’s been convicted of sexual assault. He cheated on his wife while she was pregnant. He will “take care of women whether they like it or not.” My daughters know to stay away from men like that. And they certainly wouldn’t vote for such a man to be elected as a leader.

My daughter is more pro life than I am! That’s the beauty of raising an independent and educated individual. They might just surprise you.

If your daughter hasn't been pregnant yet, she hasn't been very educated yet on what "pro-life" means. School of hard knock ups teaches more than school in cases like this.

Patent nonsense. If anything, pregnancy made me more pro life.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

This. Women vote to improve and protect the community.

A lot of post menopausal women are pro life or happy with this decided at the state level. This random twitter lady doesn’t speak for all women.

I don’t know a single post-menopausal woman who would want the state deciding this if it was their daughter who was raped and pregnant— I know plenty of Catholics and I think some of them might even carry that baby but to pretend they know the answer for everyone? No

Almost all states have rape exceptions.

Jfc, as if that makes it a good thing.

It was dumb to argue as if it is an either or question. You can have state abortion limitations that account for the rare cases of rape induced pregnancies.
And most states do.

You realize that real women live under these draconian laws which you gloss over with your the language of “most” and “almost all”. It’s gross.

Those real women are voters in the states with those restrictions. Unlike with roe vs wade, they can take actions from campaigning to voting to enact the regulations that most match their values.

You seem to forget that pro life women exist.

What I don’t understand is it’s going to soon affect pregnant women, especially with high risk of unknown complications, in those states because doctors and specialists are leaving Florida and Texas and the South in record numbers. Nobody thinks of the unintended consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Anonymous wrote:It makes so much sense that Trump would lose this election after losing the last one in 2020. It's a relief to see some pulling that reflects that common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

Huge mistake. A lot of these women are old enough to have seen all of it. The difficult pregnancies, the infertility, the rapes, friends and family that have had an abortion, and on and on.

I don't think anyone knows better than a woman who's experienced it all, or knows a lot of people that have experienced it all, the critical importance of making your own reproductive decisions.

My 78 yo mother is horrified that her granddaughter will less rights to decide what to do with her body than she did. I am certain she is not the only one look at it through this lens.

+1. Three generations of my family all went together to support Harris in early voting.

And three generations of mine voted Trump. Your point?

I can’t imagine raising a daughter who is voting for a man who said he has the right to grab a woman by the p***y. I am so proud that my two daughters know that all of his words and behaviors are unacceptable. He’s been convicted of sexual assault. He cheated on his wife while she was pregnant. He will “take care of women whether they like it or not.” My daughters know to stay away from men like that. And they certainly wouldn’t vote for such a man to be elected as a leader.

My daughter is more pro life than I am! That’s the beauty of raising an independent and educated individual. They might just surprise you.

If your daughter hasn't been pregnant yet, she hasn't been very educated yet on what "pro-life" means. School of hard knock ups teaches more than school in cases like this.

Patent nonsense. If anything, pregnancy made me more pro life.

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Anonymous wrote:just watched ann seltzer interviewed on rachel maddow's show. she's very confident about her poll.

seltzer says senior women (over 65) are breaking 2 to 1 for harris. and while trump is still winning men overall in iowa, he's actually losing senior men to harris.

Is this a big surprise? Did Trump and his team not understand how mature woman would react to overturning Roe v. Wade? Did they not understand that mature women vote? Did they not understand that men have respect for the experience and opinions of their wives?