I’m definitely voting D but I watched the R convention last night.

I’m so disappointed in the folks making nasty comments here. We don’t agree with what the R politicians are advocating for and we are going to defeat in the elections.

After all that is over they are still Americans just like us. They have families and love their country. We need to take a step back and reunite on common ground.

What I wouldn't give for one unbiased news source that everyone also had to watch in addition to their siloed stations...... My aunt stayed with me for 4 days and we watched MSNBC instead of her typical Fox and had some actually really good discussions and find out we agree on a lot more things. She literally watches Fox News for 8 hours a day typically. Msnbc did not talk about illegals flooding the borders for 7 hours and she said it was actually refreshing to not have this sense of fear all day.
I know MSNBC leans left but I really don't know another reputable news station that is center.... I read plenty of things from the associated press and other centered new sources, but as far as TV goes, they're just is not a lot

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the ratings for the opening night of RNC convention are not as good as expected. You know how much Trump focuses on ratings, so he will not be pleased when he sees them:

Republican Convention Ratings Are Down

“Despite Donald Trump’s dramatic appearance days after an assassination attempt, the opening night of the Republican National Convention drew in five million fewer viewers than the first night of the convention back in 2016 – when he became the party’s presidential candidate for the first time,” The Independent reports.

As I said on another thread: the people I’ve talked to about Trump’s event just kind of roll their eyes. He’s a chaos machine and people are sick of it, they’re sick of him. They’re sick of division, like Ron Johnson’s speech on Monday (which somehow none of the “Wow, the GOP is so gentle and new and centrist” pps saw), and they’re sick of the violence, like a booth at the RNC giving away an AR-15. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/rnc-trump-assassination-attempt-gun-b2580875.html

The GOP is just unpopular.

Apparently the ratings for the opening night of RNC convention are not as good as expected. You know how much Trump focuses on ratings, so he will not be pleased when he sees them:

Republican Convention Ratings Are Down

“Despite Donald Trump’s dramatic appearance days after an assassination attempt, the opening night of the Republican National Convention drew in five million fewer viewers than the first night of the convention back in 2016 – when he became the party’s presidential candidate for the first time,” The Independent reports.

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Anonymous wrote:Stupidest convention ever. Non-stop ridiculous nonsense. Not a serious political party.

Independent here who is watching and will watch the Democrat one too. Conventions are huge pep rallies on both sides. I’m very impressed overall with the republican convention. The majority of the speakers have been excellent.

They are obviously moving to the center politically. That’s what the winning party always does. The momentum is clearly on the Republican side.

Even the complaining about Biden is coming from a soon-to-be winner’s perspective.

That’s obvious to anyone objective viewer.

They are most certainly not moving to the center. They are moving to the extreme right. They are to the right of the traditional GOP. They have killed off traditional Republicanism and have recreated the party around Trump. It is no longer Republicanism. It is Trumpism.

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Anonymous wrote:Stupidest convention ever. Non-stop ridiculous nonsense. Not a serious political party.

Independent here who is watching and will watch the Democrat one too. Conventions are huge pep rallies on both sides. I’m very impressed overall with the republican convention. The majority of the speakers have been excellent.

They are obviously moving to the center politically. That’s what the winning party always does. The momentum is clearly on the Republican side.

Even the complaining about Biden is coming from a soon-to-be winner’s perspective.

That’s obvious to anyone objective viewer.

Moving to the center would have meant putting someone more moderate on the bottom of the ticket. They didn't do that. They gave Don Jr the primetime slot to say a bunch of nonsense that only makes sense if you watch Fox News and follow Truth Social memes.

Earlier speakers like the WWII Vet and hostage's parents and Kai were moving, that's true. But Trump and Vance are not moderating their positions or moving themselves to the center. They're just hoping enough people will like the vet and the Neutras and Kai's story about grandpa giving her candy, and ignore their stances on Ukraine and abortion and the fact that Trump is a convicted felon who tried to overturn the last election.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

+1. It's great to see some promising emerging politicians. I really enjoyed hearing from Nancy Mace--hadn't known about her, but looked her up after she spoke and found her refreshing. DNC Convention put President Obama on his trajectory, and I presume we are seeing some emerging key statespeople here. While I want competent people in government and know that many who served under Trump last time were doing it as a service to the country, not necessarily Trump, I hope that some of these promising stars don't all accept administration jobs though. He's just so polarizing; for their longevity, just keep doing what they are doing and focus on the next go round.

Nancy Mace has been in office for almost five years and has been in the public eye repeatedly, most notably for saying she was late to the National Prayer Breakfast because her boyfriend wanted to have sex. You should keep up with the news.

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Anonymous wrote:When has the VP nominee's spouse ever been relevant in any way? Who cares what she looks like or even who she is? Did anyone here have any opinion whatsoever of Hadassah Lieberman or whoever Tim Kaine's and Paul Ryan's wives are?

She’s not relevant but the right wing is evidently freaking out about her being not White. They’re really struggling and being gross.

Meanwhile her crap politics are right there to criticize.

I don't care about her being not white, but I want to get her a hair brush and a hair tie. Even a decent cut and style--I assume they have the means for that? Her dress was great and I think she's really pretty, but the big hank of hair falling across her eye and all the wispy bits was distracting. She looked like someone 'trying to grow out their hair", but you still tackle it for a big event. I have really thick hair as well, and I would never teach a class looking at my students with one eye while I talked, and that's how she started the speech. I found it very difficult to focus on what she was saying.

Take this "concern" to the Fashion and Beauty forum. It sounds ridiculous here. What is wrong with women these days and their constant criticism of other women's appearance?!!!!

--old feminist

It's a thread about the RNC convention. We are discussing a woman who looked like she barely got out of bed to speak at the RNC.

I sort of think it is intentional. Melania was always called "plastic" and "fake," I suspect Vance's handlers have his wife keeping her "mom next-door" look to appeal to suburban moms.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night the RNC played a clip of racists mocking a Black woman at Ole Miss:

Troll.

Two nights ago, the Republican mayor of Dallas gave a great speech to the RNC. I forgot his name but he’s a real person. He happens to be Black, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he’s a good politician and he makes sense. I hope to see more of him on the national stage.

+1. It's great to see some promising emerging politicians. I really enjoyed hearing from Nancy Mace--hadn't known about her, but looked her up after she spoke and found her refreshing. DNC Convention put President Obama on his trajectory, and I presume we are seeing some emerging key statespeople here. While I want competent people in government and know that many who served under Trump last time were doing it as a service to the country, not necessarily Trump, I hope that some of these promising stars don't all accept administration jobs though. He's just so polarizing; for their longevity, just keep doing what they are doing and focus on the next go round.

You find the woman who defended Jan. 6 and said that her look was "MILF-chic" refreshing?

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Sorry. Are you saying with a straight face you think Republicans are moving to the center? Like, you seriously think that - or seriously think we will believe that?

Have you seen Project 2025? I'd invite you to take a look! It's not centrist!

My favorite thing Republicans do online - other than insist Usha Vance is the most beautiful woman to ever exist and we are all lucky to have even seen a glimpse of her on television - is pretend to be liberals or independents voting for Trump.

"I am an independent voter in suburban Philadelphia who has voted Democrat in the last two elections. However I am VERY impressed with the RNC and the GOP this election cycle! They are moving towards a moderate position, as evidenced by the fact that they chose a guy who says no-fault divorce shouldn't exist. Uh, I mean...anyway. I will probably be voting for Trump. Did I mention I'm an independent?"

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Anonymous wrote:And Trump slept through it again

Which will be ignored in the media again. Along with the fact we STILL have no medical report.

He was PRAYING, duh, he’s the most godly man in the history of America, obviously, and so when he fell asleep the first night he was praying and now he is PRAYING again, probably for your soul you godless commie liberal!

/s

Yeah, that guy’s dementia is galloping away from him. I actually kind of wonder if Biden having the bad debate early in the season was a good thing for the Democrats and bad for the Republicans. They of course think they’re walking away with this thing (it’s July! and they think they have it in the bag…), but they also thought that Trump getting winged was going to give them a landslide win and he hasn’t gotten a bump.

I guess we’ll see as his speech is tonight.

Why, is the election tomorrow? He’s got four months left. He’s been deteriorating for the last few years, though it goes unremarked by the “liberal” media.

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Anonymous wrote:Stupidest convention ever. Non-stop ridiculous nonsense. Not a serious political party.

Independent here who is watching and will watch the Democrat one too. Conventions are huge pep rallies on both sides. I’m very impressed overall with the republican convention. The majority of the speakers have been excellent.

They are obviously moving to the center politically. That’s what the winning party always does. The momentum is clearly on the Republican side.

Even the complaining about Biden is coming from a soon-to-be winner’s perspective.

That’s obvious to anyone objective viewer.

Sorry. Are you saying with a straight face you think Republicans are moving to the center? Like, you seriously think that - or seriously think we will believe that?

Have you seen Project 2025? I'd invite you to take a look! It's not centrist!

+1 I swear the amount of cope that Republicans take in order to remain in their party has got to be reaching fatal dose level. There’s no centrist movement; the GOP will not course correct until they lose in a landslide.

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Anonymous wrote:And Trump slept through it again

Which will be ignored in the media again. Along with the fact we STILL have no medical report.

He was PRAYING, duh, he’s the most godly man in the history of America, obviously, and so when he fell asleep the first night he was praying and now he is PRAYING again, probably for your soul you godless commie liberal!

/s

Yeah, that guy’s dementia is galloping away from him. I actually kind of wonder if Biden having the bad debate early in the season was a good thing for the Democrats and bad for the Republicans. They of course think they’re walking away with this thing (it’s July! and they think they have it in the bag…), but they also thought that Trump getting winged was going to give them a landslide win and he hasn’t gotten a bump.

I guess we’ll see as his speech is tonight.

Hope for him the teleprompter doesn't go out!

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Anonymous wrote:And Trump slept through it again

Which will be ignored in the media again. Along with the fact we STILL have no medical report.

He was PRAYING, duh, he’s the most godly man in the history of America, obviously, and so when he fell asleep the first night he was praying and now he is PRAYING again, probably for your soul you godless commie liberal!

/s

Yeah, that guy’s dementia is galloping away from him. I actually kind of wonder if Biden having the bad debate early in the season was a good thing for the Democrats and bad for the Republicans. They of course think they’re walking away with this thing (it’s July! and they think they have it in the bag…), but they also thought that Trump getting winged was going to give them a landslide win and he hasn’t gotten a bump.

I guess we’ll see as his speech is tonight.

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Anonymous wrote:And Trump slept through it again

Which will be ignored in the media again. Along with the fact we STILL have no medical report.

he has his eyes closed during the closing prayer, same as last time people tried to say he fell asleep @ the convention.

Is he in prayer every time he falls asleep in a nice cool crowded room?