Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 18:55     Subject: OJ simpson Died

I do not want this to come across as victim blaming BUT -

Were Ron and Nicole subjected to toxicology tests?

Also really hope OJ's brain was tested for CTE, though I doubt the family would allow it.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 18:55     Subject: OJ simpson Died

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Anonymous wrote:Also, that shoe was a very very rare and exclusive celebrity brand or something like that. It was not a household name and it isn’t something any cop would conclude. Only someone who rummaged OJ’s closet would know what Bruno Magli was and his property was searched the same night Nicole’s was . Let’s say his daughter who was at the guest house called him and let him know Nicole’s dead and the detectives are at his house searching everything without warrant or telling him, he would absolutely be panicked enough to cut a finger from breaking a glass in the hotel room (as he claimed) and in the mental state to be suicidal and be on the run . He knows he is the suspect .
You do realize that Oj told two different stories as to how he cut his finger, don’t you?

OJ also said he didn’t own and would never wear the “ugly ass” Bruno Magli shoes and then he was wearing them in more than 30 photos introduced in the civil case.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 18:50     Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Oj defender is actually using talking points from oj’s own mouth kind of the way trump supporters only say what he says. Oj is guilty and I’m a guy and was once an Oj fan but the case was won at jury selection.
The jurors have said after case that it was payback, it didn’t matter what evidence was shown


What makes him guilty if the blood is questionable? Any jury would’ve let him walk. The evidence wasn’t overwhelming . The only thing we have is a 911 call and DV arrest from 1989 where OJ is on the recorded call blasting Nicole for blowing a guy in the living room while the kids were home. Something that most guys would have a fit about

He should not have been watching her blowing a guy in her living room. People have sex all the time while their kids are at home, presumably in another room, asleep. It was none of his business what she was doing.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 18:43     Subject: OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:Also, that shoe was a very very rare and exclusive celebrity brand or something like that. It was not a household name and it isn’t something any cop would conclude. Only someone who rummaged OJ’s closet would know what Bruno Magli was and his property was searched the same night Nicole’s was . Let’s say his daughter who was at the guest house called him and let him know Nicole’s dead and the detectives are at his house searching everything without warrant or telling him, he would absolutely be panicked enough to cut a finger from breaking a glass in the hotel room (as he claimed) and in the mental state to be suicidal and be on the run . He knows he is the suspect .

Are you saying they rummaged around the closet and found that pair or another pair of Magli shoes? What exactly did they find there and how was that information used?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 18:34     Subject: OJ simpson Died

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Anonymous wrote:Furman didn’t plant one thing in this case. He just didn’t. It would of been impossible. I’ve heard other detectives say that even if he wanted too, he wouldn’t have the time to do it. It was impossible. They found blood when Oj was in Chicago. They just didn’t have his blood to plant.
They saw a trail of blood. Why? This may shock you. Ready? OJ killed them.


Furhman did plant evidence. He was caught lying on the stand.

There’s a reason those tapes came out. His other cop colleagues were disturbed by him and ratted him out . On those tapes, he admitted to regularly planting drugs /evidence on suspects, especially black men and said if he thinks someone did it, that’s enough to go ahead and get to staging a scene.

He told coworkers getting OJ would be his launch to the big time. Instead, he left the force in disgrace.

It didn’t stop him from writing a book. A guy like that will die with the lie. He wont ever admit to wrongdoing. He believed cops should lie. All is fair in shady detective work until it happens to someone’s son.


Most cops are shady.

This force just happened to be starstruck OJ fans.

Not saying Furman was not the shadiest, but let's not absolve everyone else here.


Starstruck or not, when a woman dies, it always leads back to the man she is with or the ex . I don’t fault the cops for that . What I do fault them for is how sloppily they handled the evidence and the scene. It was not appropriate for Furhman to even “jump the gate” at OJ’s house without a warrant at 5am. Kato and Oj’s daughter were there but still.. There are procedures for due process and investigation handling and detectives picking up blood vials from the labs then placing them in their pockets en route to the scene make no sense. I get DNA technology was very primitive back then but they very well could’ve gotten hairs from OJ and seen if any were found on Ron and Nicole’s fingernails . I don’t see why blood draws were necessary. OJ wasn’t the one horribly stabbed to death. I still believe whatever’s under Ron and Nicole’s fingernails and throats would’ve been a stronger tell. It’s too late now unfortunately. The evidence they found was stuff nobody with a brain would do (wear a glove then leave it bloodied on the scene, What was the purpose?)

The other interesting thing is the Bruno Magli shoe. How would cops know what shoe made those prints or what he was wearing that night unless someone saw his closet?
Are you kidding? They didn’t know what shoe print they were looking for that night.
Also, Furman jumped the gate because they had just seen the owner of the house, Oj - his ex was just butchered, so he followed the blood in his driveway (the reason he jumped the fence). Furman, by your theory was jumping the fence to sprinkle blood.
Oj, had flown to Chicago that night, so he hadn’t given up his blood yet.
Furman couldn’t of set him up even if he wanted too


Furhman was not supposed to jump the gate. Warrants are needed for a reason. Also, the LAPD’s crime scene photos from that week didn’t show the glove or sock or any of the OJ bloody evidence the prosecution used. That means these items were planted later on after OJ was arrested and got blood drawn.

Why would the glove not be in the LAPD’s crime scene photo from the week of June 12th?



Not if it is reasonable to assume a crime is or has taken place. All that blood and two dead bodies do not require a warrant.


This is why some cops are notoriously bad detectives. They don’t like to follow protocols. We shouldn’t have detectives from the police force do any crime scene investigations or raids without attorneys present imo.


If someone is being beaten in their home by a spouse, the police have every right to go in and stop it w/out a warrant. They are not going to wait for lawyers to arrive at the scene.


I’m not talking about the 89 incident where Nicole called 911. I’m talking about 1994 during the murder case. Furhman rushed to go to OJs house instead of finishing the job of documenting and inspecting everything from the crime scene and checking Nicole’s house for clues . He caused cross contamination and other conflicts of interest because he handled the scene improperly by “jumping the gate” and not getting a search warrant for ONs house . Instead of a body bag, Nicole was covered with her own blanket from the house. There were just too many missteps.


OJ calls Faye Resnick out in this interview from 2007. She said the morning after “If OJ didn’t kill Nicole; we are in trouble”. She was never questioned about why she suddenly moved into Nicole’s home and then days later, Nicole dies. She also fled to Mexico for a while.

https://youtu.be/r0sxp-jnnFs?si=m03qAzXKBR-44R1w
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:34     Subject: OJ simpson Died

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Anonymous wrote:Furman didn’t plant one thing in this case. He just didn’t. It would of been impossible. I’ve heard other detectives say that even if he wanted too, he wouldn’t have the time to do it. It was impossible. They found blood when Oj was in Chicago. They just didn’t have his blood to plant.
They saw a trail of blood. Why? This may shock you. Ready? OJ killed them.


Furhman did plant evidence. He was caught lying on the stand.

There’s a reason those tapes came out. His other cop colleagues were disturbed by him and ratted him out . On those tapes, he admitted to regularly planting drugs /evidence on suspects, especially black men and said if he thinks someone did it, that’s enough to go ahead and get to staging a scene.

He told coworkers getting OJ would be his launch to the big time. Instead, he left the force in disgrace.

It didn’t stop him from writing a book. A guy like that will die with the lie. He wont ever admit to wrongdoing. He believed cops should lie. All is fair in shady detective work until it happens to someone’s son.


Most cops are shady.

This force just happened to be starstruck OJ fans.

Not saying Furman was not the shadiest, but let's not absolve everyone else here.


Starstruck or not, when a woman dies, it always leads back to the man she is with or the ex . I don’t fault the cops for that . What I do fault them for is how sloppily they handled the evidence and the scene. It was not appropriate for Furhman to even “jump the gate” at OJ’s house without a warrant at 5am. Kato and Oj’s daughter were there but still.. There are procedures for due process and investigation handling and detectives picking up blood vials from the labs then placing them in their pockets en route to the scene make no sense. I get DNA technology was very primitive back then but they very well could’ve gotten hairs from OJ and seen if any were found on Ron and Nicole’s fingernails . I don’t see why blood draws were necessary. OJ wasn’t the one horribly stabbed to death. I still believe whatever’s under Ron and Nicole’s fingernails and throats would’ve been a stronger tell. It’s too late now unfortunately. The evidence they found was stuff nobody with a brain would do (wear a glove then leave it bloodied on the scene, What was the purpose?)

The other interesting thing is the Bruno Magli shoe. How would cops know what shoe made those prints or what he was wearing that night unless someone saw his closet?
Are you kidding? They didn’t know what shoe print they were looking for that night.
Also, Furman jumped the gate because they had just seen the owner of the house, Oj - his ex was just butchered, so he followed the blood in his driveway (the reason he jumped the fence). Furman, by your theory was jumping the fence to sprinkle blood.
Oj, had flown to Chicago that night, so he hadn’t given up his blood yet.
Furman couldn’t of set him up even if he wanted too


Furhman was not supposed to jump the gate. Warrants are needed for a reason. Also, the LAPD’s crime scene photos from that week didn’t show the glove or sock or any of the OJ bloody evidence the prosecution used. That means these items were planted later on after OJ was arrested and got blood drawn.

Why would the glove not be in the LAPD’s crime scene photo from the week of June 12th?



Not if it is reasonable to assume a crime is or has taken place. All that blood and two dead bodies do not require a warrant.


This is why some cops are notoriously bad detectives. They don’t like to follow protocols. We shouldn’t have detectives from the police force do any crime scene investigations or raids without attorneys present imo.


If someone is being beaten in their home by a spouse, the police have every right to go in and stop it w/out a warrant. They are not going to wait for lawyers to arrive at the scene.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:32     Subject: OJ simpson Died

Instead of examining the crime scene properly, Furhman rushed things over to OJ’s house before any evidence was even collected . The scene at Nicole’s house probably left lots of clues but he was rushing to play hurt and executioner instead of allowing the facts and the procedures /evidence capturing to take the lead
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:28     Subject: OJ simpson Died

They could’ve examined the drains/ pipes in the bathtub and sinks at OJs home for Nicole and Ron’s blood, his front yard for blood, doorknob, limo, examined the dogs saliva for any human DNA in case the dog bit the murderer , examine Nicole’s last phone calls, there was a tub of melting ice cream in the kitchen at the home that Nicole had out before she died. It was never tested for DNA or fingerprints . How do we know the confrontation didn’t start inside the house (like in the kitchen) and the weapon wasn’t one of Nicole’s own knives? She also had a bath and candles set . She was prompted outside barefoot (as if she was being chased?)
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:12     Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Oj defender is actually using talking points from oj’s own mouth kind of the way trump supporters only say what he says. Oj is guilty and I’m a guy and was once an Oj fan but the case was won at jury selection.
The jurors have said after case that it was payback, it didn’t matter what evidence was shown


I’m the Oj is innocent poster. I think OJ was idiotic and followed very bad advice about writing the book. If Cochran hadn’t died, I guarantee he wouldn’t have ever wrote that.

The only thing Oj was smart about is protecting his children and being a good parent and he was better at it before Nicole died. Nicole was very young, married young, and wanted to party. Bringing Ron to the house when she only knew him for a few weeks was why OJ was mad not because he was jealous of her per say but just that she had lots of shady characters in the home . Ever watch OJ talk about Kris Jenner? He has nothing nice to say about her or Faye Resnick .
A good parent? Wtf. He beat the mother of his kids over 60 times. He didn’t care about anyone but himself. Oj kiiled them and I’m sorry to burst your bubble. Furman framed nobody in this case. The case was lost at jury selection. No evidence points to anyone but Oj


Furham even said he was sorry after the verdict. He felt his lies ruined the case.

Geraldo Rivera said “the cops were guilty of framing a guilty man”.

Again, that makes no sense to me because what makes someone guilty of the evidence wasn’t pictured by LAPD the night of the murders? How did the glove magically appear weeks later and a test tube chemical appear on the blood stain on OJ’s sock? Double murders from slitting the chest and throat open would lead to that limo or Bronco being cherry red all over. No car washes recorded for that limo or OJ’s Bronco. You go try and spill wine over car seats . The finest car wash isn’t going to clean up everything. Red stains set in faster than lightning
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:09     Subject: OJ simpson Died

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Anonymous wrote:Two of Ron’s friends /coworkers from that same restaurant died in unsolved murders in 1993 and 1995 months before and after Ron and Nicole died. That entire restaraunt and its drug den accusations were never explored by corrupt LAPD.

There are phone recordings of OJ screaming at Nicole for her drug habit and allowing dangerous people in close orbit with the kids. Faye Resnick was one of Heidi Fleiss’ girls and a huge cocaine addict . Why was she living with Nicole till days prior to the murders when she owed a huge tab and was in financial ruin? Nicole married young, finally experienced freedom , but made very bad friends who used her and her connection to OJ .

If Sydney Simpson thinks her mom was killed because of drug deals and bad friends, she probably is right. She knew all these people and I’m sure like all eight year old girls do, she eavesdropped on Faye and her moms conversations


No, an 8 year old whose mom was brutally murdered and whose dad is the prime suspect is incapable of assessing the situation accurately. She’d probably burst if she accepted the truth that her dad killed her mom. Of course, she thinks he’s innocent.

It’s us third parties who don’t have a horse in this race who can clearly see OJ’s guilt. I knew he was guilty from the police chase. Innocent people are terrified when their loved ones/people close to their orbit are murdered. They seek protection and to help the police in any way they can. If my ex husband who I was accused of hitting got murdered, the last thing I would do was seek a getaway. I’d be there with our kids, comforting them and trying to help the investigators.

He’s as guilty as sin.


Of course you don’t have fear and would want to help the cops and investigators. OJ probably feared he would get shot. He knew his life was over so he was suicidal. I’m sure he thought he would’ve went to jail for life . It didn’t look good: being the ex with a contentious divorce and DV arrest with a an ex wife that was brutally murdered along with her drug dealer pal.

His 24 year old son and himself were who he hired attorneys before, not his ex wife or his daughter or anyone else. There’s a reason for that. Why would he care that he and his son are cleared?

Take a guess


Gross. You can delude yourself as much as you want about OJ (but do read what his first wife has to say about his character). Fine, but it’s disgusting of you to slander Ron Goldman. He wasn’t a drug dealer. There is no evidence of that, except your delusions. He was an innocent 25 year old wanna be actor who worked as a waiter, who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Only by the grace of god something that horrific hasn’t happened to you. Don’t push HIM.


That place was a drug den. A woman like Nicole wouldn’t look twice at a waiter.

How religious of you to wish death . Right on brand

Troll


I’m not a troll. I used to think OJ did it too when I was younger. I think he’s innocent and was framed now


np Do you deny all the 911 calls and the fact that he beat Nicole regularly? He should have been in jail for that. But, because the cops were fans and the 911 operator actually asked "what did you do?" As if she is to blame for being beaten. Sick.


Nicole’s family wanted Oj to tell her to go rehab. They hated her friends .

There’s only one 911 call recording the one from the 1989 incident. Nicole was advised by attorney to exaggerate and document DV claims to get more money out of the divorce. Nicole is the one who sent their wedding tape and a letter to OJ in late 1993 wanting to reconcile. She was angry OJ moved on and was dating other women. Her family didn’t care about DV arrest and wanted her back with OJ.

The murders painted everyone against OJ because naturally everyone believed the police and their “evidence”.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:08     Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Oj defender is actually using talking points from oj’s own mouth kind of the way trump supporters only say what he says. Oj is guilty and I’m a guy and was once an Oj fan but the case was won at jury selection.
The jurors have said after case that it was payback, it didn’t matter what evidence was shown


I’m the Oj is innocent poster. I think OJ was idiotic and followed very bad advice about writing the book. If Cochran hadn’t died, I guarantee he wouldn’t have ever wrote that.

The only thing Oj was smart about is protecting his children and being a good parent and he was better at it before Nicole died. Nicole was very young, married young, and wanted to party. Bringing Ron to the house when she only knew him for a few weeks was why OJ was mad not because he was jealous of her per say but just that she had lots of shady characters in the home . Ever watch OJ talk about Kris Jenner? He has nothing nice to say about her or Faye Resnick .
A good parent? Wtf. He beat the mother of his kids over 60 times. He didn’t care about anyone but himself. Oj kiiled them and I’m sorry to burst your bubble. Furman framed nobody in this case. The case was lost at jury selection. No evidence points to anyone but Oj
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:07     Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Oj defender is actually using talking points from oj’s own mouth kind of the way trump supporters only say what he says. Oj is guilty and I’m a guy and was once an Oj fan but the case was won at jury selection.
The jurors have said after case that it was payback, it didn’t matter what evidence was shown


I’m the Oj is innocent poster. I think OJ was idiotic and followed very bad advice about writing the book. If Cochran hadn’t died, I guarantee he wouldn’t have ever wrote that.

The only thing Oj was smart about is protecting his children and being a good parent and he was better at it before Nicole died. Nicole was very young, married young, and wanted to party. Bringing Ron to the house when she only knew him for a few weeks was why OJ was mad not because he was jealous of her per say but just that she had lots of shady characters in the home . Ever watch OJ talk about Kris Jenner? He has nothing nice to say about her or Faye Resnick .


are you a POC?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:04     Subject: OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:Also, that shoe was a very very rare and exclusive celebrity brand or something like that. It was not a household name and it isn’t something any cop would conclude. Only someone who rummaged OJ’s closet would know what Bruno Magli was and his property was searched the same night Nicole’s was . Let’s say his daughter who was at the guest house called him and let him know Nicole’s dead and the detectives are at his house searching everything without warrant or telling him, he would absolutely be panicked enough to cut a finger from breaking a glass in the hotel room (as he claimed) and in the mental state to be suicidal and be on the run . He knows he is the suspect .
You do realize that Oj told two different stories as to how he cut his finger, don’t you?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:04     Subject: OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Two of Ron’s friends /coworkers from that same restaurant died in unsolved murders in 1993 and 1995 months before and after Ron and Nicole died. That entire restaraunt and its drug den accusations were never explored by corrupt LAPD.

There are phone recordings of OJ screaming at Nicole for her drug habit and allowing dangerous people in close orbit with the kids. Faye Resnick was one of Heidi Fleiss’ girls and a huge cocaine addict . Why was she living with Nicole till days prior to the murders when she owed a huge tab and was in financial ruin? Nicole married young, finally experienced freedom , but made very bad friends who used her and her connection to OJ .

If Sydney Simpson thinks her mom was killed because of drug deals and bad friends, she probably is right. She knew all these people and I’m sure like all eight year old girls do, she eavesdropped on Faye and her moms conversations


No, an 8 year old whose mom was brutally murdered and whose dad is the prime suspect is incapable of assessing the situation accurately. She’d probably burst if she accepted the truth that her dad killed her mom. Of course, she thinks he’s innocent.

It’s us third parties who don’t have a horse in this race who can clearly see OJ’s guilt. I knew he was guilty from the police chase. Innocent people are terrified when their loved ones/people close to their orbit are murdered. They seek protection and to help the police in any way they can. If my ex husband who I was accused of hitting got murdered, the last thing I would do was seek a getaway. I’d be there with our kids, comforting them and trying to help the investigators.

He’s as guilty as sin.


Of course you don’t have fear and would want to help the cops and investigators. OJ probably feared he would get shot. He knew his life was over so he was suicidal. I’m sure he thought he would’ve went to jail for life . It didn’t look good: being the ex with a contentious divorce and DV arrest with a an ex wife that was brutally murdered along with her drug dealer pal.

His 24 year old son and himself were who he hired attorneys before, not his ex wife or his daughter or anyone else. There’s a reason for that. Why would he care that he and his son are cleared?

Take a guess


Gross. You can delude yourself as much as you want about OJ (but do read what his first wife has to say about his character). Fine, but it’s disgusting of you to slander Ron Goldman. He wasn’t a drug dealer. There is no evidence of that, except your delusions. He was an innocent 25 year old wanna be actor who worked as a waiter, who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Only by the grace of god something that horrific hasn’t happened to you. Don’t push HIM.


That place was a drug den. A woman like Nicole wouldn’t look twice at a waiter.

How religious of you to wish death . Right on brand

Troll


I’m not a troll. I used to think OJ did it too when I was younger. I think he’s innocent and was framed now


np Do you deny all the 911 calls and the fact that he beat Nicole regularly? He should have been in jail for that. But, because the cops were fans and the 911 operator actually asked "what did you do?" As if she is to blame for being beaten. Sick.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:04     Subject: Re:OJ simpson Died

Anonymous wrote:The Oj defender is actually using talking points from oj’s own mouth kind of the way trump supporters only say what he says. Oj is guilty and I’m a guy and was once an Oj fan but the case was won at jury selection.
The jurors have said after case that it was payback, it didn’t matter what evidence was shown


I’m the Oj is innocent poster. I think OJ was idiotic and followed very bad advice about writing the book. If Cochran hadn’t died, I guarantee he wouldn’t have ever wrote that.

The only thing Oj was smart about is protecting his children and being a good parent and he was better at it before Nicole died. Nicole was very young, married young, and wanted to party. Bringing Ron to the house when she only knew him for a few weeks was why OJ was mad not because he was jealous of her per say but just that she had lots of shady characters in the home . Ever watch OJ talk about Kris Jenner? He has nothing nice to say about her or Faye Resnick .