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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a false sense of security that Biden will win. Theyre not working hard enough to seal the deal in Nov. POC don't want to vote for him and I get that and also we are so screwed under Trump who will, against all my wishes for this place, win.

No one has a false sense of security. Democrats are scared out of our minds. Why in the world would you think anyone feels anything other than terror and dread?

The SOTU gave us some comfort. The Hur disaster was some more. But no, you will not find a Dem around who feels like this is easy breezy, the whole thing's locked up. First of all, we were there for 2016 - and second of all, we're just not that type of people. And third of all, Jesus almighty the stakes are sky high. This isn't something where if we don't like the guy elected, well, so what we'll get through it - this is something where the guy we're opposing is essentially an actual demon.

Really? Turnip serves four years, if he wins. Another election happens in 2028. Life goes on.

Some (many) of you need to get a grip with reality.

Funny that some of you think SOTU was great when he was pumped full of drugs to be alert and read from a teleprompter but ignore his disastrous public outings in the swing states in the following days. He's an 81 year old man with all the cognitive decline of a rapidly aging man. I have more respect for the few of you who are genuinely honest about it and admit they're voting for the party and policy advisors and it doesn't matter that Biden is heading for the final sunset. At least that's honest. Just 'fess up and be honest.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a false sense of security that Biden will win. Theyre not working hard enough to seal the deal in Nov. POC don't want to vote for him and I get that and also we are so screwed under Trump who will, against all my wishes for this place, win.

No one has a false sense of security. Democrats are scared out of our minds. Why in the world would you think anyone feels anything other than terror and dread?

The SOTU gave us some comfort. The Hur disaster was some more. But no, you will not find a Dem around who feels like this is easy breezy, the whole thing's locked up. First of all, we were there for 2016 - and second of all, we're just not that type of people. And third of all, Jesus almighty the stakes are sky high. This isn't something where if we don't like the guy elected, well, so what we'll get through it - this is something where the guy we're opposing is essentially an actual demon.

PP here. I think democrat leadership feels a false sense of security. Not necessarily voters. They're so confident in their alzheimers patient of a president that they won't do the right thing and pick anyone, literally anyone else, to run. I think they think Joe looks stronger and more likeable than he actually does becuz they aren't listening to us!

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a false sense of security that Biden will win. Theyre not working hard enough to seal the deal in Nov. POC don't want to vote for him and I get that and also we are so screwed under Trump who will, against all my wishes for this place, win.

No one has a false sense of security. Democrats are scared out of our minds. Why in the world would you think anyone feels anything other than terror and dread?

The SOTU gave us some comfort. The Hur disaster was some more. But no, you will not find a Dem around who feels like this is easy breezy, the whole thing's locked up. First of all, we were there for 2016 - and second of all, we're just not that type of people. And third of all, Jesus almighty the stakes are sky high. This isn't something where if we don't like the guy elected, well, so what we'll get through it - this is something where the guy we're opposing is essentially an actual demon.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have a false sense of security that Biden will win. Theyre not working hard enough to seal the deal in Nov. POC don't want to vote for him and I get that and also we are so screwed under Trump who will, against all my wishes for this place, win.

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Anonymous wrote:Turnip has maintained a small but consistent polling lead over Biden for the last few months.

Regardless of all the talk about being too far out before the election, if Turnip is maintaining a 2% lead over Biden in early August, he is winning the election. There is not a single person in the country who doesn't know about the legal troubles or Biden's cognitive/aging problems. These are all baked in. People are not changing their minds.

This may be a story of consistently unbudging polling through November with Turnip always maintaining that 2% lead over Biden. And for all the fears or hopes, it may actually turn out to be a boring election.

But I do allow some possibilities of movements between now and August, but I stand by the argument that if Turnip is still holding on to that 2% lead by August 1st, he is winning the election.

Unless the polls are wrong again like they are every single time.

Of course polling is wrong. No one except old people answers calls from strangers, and old people skew conservative.

Trump, mathematically, does not have a chance at winning. He does not appeal to anyone except his base. Conservative voters who don't like him but want to support their party won't have a wild incentive to stand in line and vote. As usual, it will come down to turn-out, and the anti-Trump voters, regardless of their political opinions, have more reason to engage than the Trump supporters.

And this is the false sense of security that lead to shock on election night in 2016. I think a better use of our time is to figure out why Trump appeals to so many people and craft a case around Dem policies to win them over.

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BIDEN/TRUMP -- A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Oh my God! This is horrible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turnip has maintained a small but consistent polling lead over Biden for the last few months.

Regardless of all the talk about being too far out before the election, if Turnip is maintaining a 2% lead over Biden in early August, he is winning the election. There is not a single person in the country who doesn't know about the legal troubles or Biden's cognitive/aging problems. These are all baked in. People are not changing their minds.

This may be a story of consistently unbudging polling through November with Turnip always maintaining that 2% lead over Biden. And for all the fears or hopes, it may actually turn out to be a boring election.

But I do allow some possibilities of movements between now and August, but I stand by the argument that if Turnip is still holding on to that 2% lead by August 1st, he is winning the election.

Unless the polls are wrong again like they are every single time.

Of course polling is wrong. No one except old people answers calls from strangers, and old people skew conservative.

Trump, mathematically, does not have a chance at winning. He does not appeal to anyone except his base. Conservative voters who don't like him but want to support their party won't have a wild incentive to stand in line and vote. As usual, it will come down to turn-out, and the anti-Trump voters, regardless of their political opinions, have more reason to engage than the Trump supporters.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turnip has maintained a small but consistent polling lead over Biden for the last few months.

Regardless of all the talk about being too far out before the election, if Turnip is maintaining a 2% lead over Biden in early August, he is winning the election. There is not a single person in the country who doesn't know about the legal troubles or Biden's cognitive/aging problems. These are all baked in. People are not changing their minds.

This may be a story of consistently unbudging polling through November with Turnip always maintaining that 2% lead over Biden. And for all the fears or hopes, it may actually turn out to be a boring election.

But I do allow some possibilities of movements between now and August, but I stand by the argument that if Turnip is still holding on to that 2% lead by August 1st, he is winning the election.

Unless the polls are wrong again like they are every single time.

Oh? All those polls that said Turnip was going to lose in 2020 was wrong? Really? Fancy that!

This is the rebuttal of someone who has nothing to say because she can't refute the arguments. Polls are pretty good indicators. But if the polls do have a bias, it is that they have historically underpolled T (in other words, he has a history of outperforming his polls). Perhaps it means that T will defeat Bidet by 4% instead of 2%.

Dream on. Trump is a horrible candidate and the majority know it. We want a good economy, we want our reproductive rights , we want union jobs, we want healthcare, we want the border bill, we want respect for elections, we want national security and we don't want a rapey old life-long conman in charge of our counrty and our families. Biden will win by a lot.

Ok? There's a rive called de nile, you know.

It's one thing to have a wish list. But reality is something else. How can you not look at all the polls, and the swing state polls, and notice how well Turnip is doing? But then again it's not like we expect rationality on this thread, eh?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turnip has maintained a small but consistent polling lead over Biden for the last few months.

Regardless of all the talk about being too far out before the election, if Turnip is maintaining a 2% lead over Biden in early August, he is winning the election. There is not a single person in the country who doesn't know about the legal troubles or Biden's cognitive/aging problems. These are all baked in. People are not changing their minds.

This may be a story of consistently unbudging polling through November with Turnip always maintaining that 2% lead over Biden. And for all the fears or hopes, it may actually turn out to be a boring election.

But I do allow some possibilities of movements between now and August, but I stand by the argument that if Turnip is still holding on to that 2% lead by August 1st, he is winning the election.

Unless the polls are wrong again like they are every single time.

Oh? All those polls that said Turnip was going to lose in 2020 was wrong? Really? Fancy that!

This is the rebuttal of someone who has nothing to say because she can't refute the arguments. Polls are pretty good indicators. But if the polls do have a bias, it is that they have historically underpolled T (in other words, he has a history of outperforming his polls). Perhaps it means that T will defeat Bidet by 4% instead of 2%.

Dream on. Trump is a horrible candidate and the majority know it. We want a good economy, we want our reproductive rights , we want union jobs, we want healthcare, we want the border bill, we want respect for elections, we want national security and we don't want a rapey old life-long conman in charge of our counrty and our families. Biden will win by a lot.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turnip has maintained a small but consistent polling lead over Biden for the last few months.

Regardless of all the talk about being too far out before the election, if Turnip is maintaining a 2% lead over Biden in early August, he is winning the election. There is not a single person in the country who doesn't know about the legal troubles or Biden's cognitive/aging problems. These are all baked in. People are not changing their minds.

This may be a story of consistently unbudging polling through November with Turnip always maintaining that 2% lead over Biden. And for all the fears or hopes, it may actually turn out to be a boring election.

But I do allow some possibilities of movements between now and August, but I stand by the argument that if Turnip is still holding on to that 2% lead by August 1st, he is winning the election.

Unless the polls are wrong again like they are every single time.

Oh? All those polls that said Turnip was going to lose in 2020 was wrong? Really? Fancy that!

This is the rebuttal of someone who has nothing to say because she can't refute the arguments. Polls are pretty good indicators. But if the polls do have a bias, it is that they have historically underpolled T (in other words, he has a history of outperforming his polls). Perhaps it means that T will defeat Bidet by 4% instead of 2%.