Anonymous wrote:Lol Clarence Thomas ruling against affirmative action.

Because he recognizes that with affirmative action, blacks will have a stigma associated that they are not qualified.
Clarence Thomas was on the Supreme Court, and liberals still call him an affirmative action beneficiary who is Scalia's lawn jockey.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what will happen if/when whites at the Ivy Leagues start feeling that they are being edged out by Asians in regard to admissions.

If the admission system is race-blind and based on demonstrated academic achievement, I will “start feeling” (as you put it) the system is finally fair.

If my white child is not admitted, I will assume other students simply demonstrated superior academic performance. And that would be fair. Fine with it.

The admission system is most certainly not going to be based on academic merit. Never had been and never will be.

Admission decisions should not be based solely on academic merit. I have no doubt that HYP receives enough applicants who score 100% on SAT to fill the entire first class. But academic merit is not the only requirement for a successful life. In the sports arena, there are dozens, if not more, of examples with hugely natural talent who never lived up to their potential.

SAT measures how well you take a standardized test. Nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:Students needed bonus points to get in because of their race. This implies they are less capable as the ones who got in or at least scored less by their metrics, otherwise they would not have needed the bonus points.
The evidence shows it was not just a plus factor between two equal candidates, but a large difference.
It is reasonable to include that this group will have a harder time at the college that admitted the lower caliber group.
The alternative is to conclude that the college's evaluation process in admissions is flawed to begin with.

Google the graduation rate for Black Americans attending Harvard University.
Harvard is not scraping the bottom of the barrel to find qualified black applicants who won't succeed. Your ignorance is loud and disturbing.

Harvard is not. A lot of other colleges are after Harvard takes their pick.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what will happen if/when whites at the Ivy Leagues start feeling that they are being edged out by Asians in regard to admissions.

If the admission system is race-blind and based on demonstrated academic achievement, I will “start feeling” (as you put it) the system is finally fair.

If my white child is not admitted, I will assume other students simply demonstrated superior academic performance. And that would be fair. Fine with it.

The admission system is most certainly not going to be based on academic merit. Never had been and never will be.

Admission decisions should not be based solely on academic merit. I have no doubt that HYP receives enough applicants who score 100% on SAT to fill the entire first class. But academic merit is not the only requirement for a successful life. In the sports arena, there are dozens, if not more, of examples with hugely natural talent who never lived up to their potential.

Anonymous wrote:A small step in the correct direction.

I guess if you don’t value diversity.

A small step in the correct direction.

Colleges will find other ways to work around this.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what will happen if/when whites at the Ivy Leagues start feeling that they are being edged out by Asians in regard to admissions.

If the admission system is race-blind and based on demonstrated academic achievement, I will “start feeling” (as you put it) the system is finally fair.

If my white child is not admitted, I will assume other students simply demonstrated superior academic performance. And that would be fair. Fine with it.

The admission system is most certainly not going to be based on academic merit. Never had been and never will be.

Yay! I’ve always felt reverse discrimination.

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing…
What makes Harvard so extraordinary? Sure it’s a wonderful school and your student will definitely get a good education, but why are people so obsessed with getting into HYP?
It’s about the future connections. It might not pan out for every student, but it’s worth it for more than a few.
Lots of snide comments about “legacy” admits, but let’s get real. Those are the exact kids you are hoping to form a bond. It’s those interpersonal relationships that pay off in the end.
I suspect that if the gate keepers children aren’t given their due, the gates will move elsewhere. It’s a club and you ain’t in it.

This is so true. Harvard is a relatively mediocre education at the undergraduate level. It's the caliber of the student body admitted, the cachet and connections that make the difference. Even then, it really only gets you through that first hoop or two post-graduation. You still have to perform, but you have a lot further to fall. And graduate schools can't be 100% HYPS grads. So again, you'll compete with your HYPS classmates for those coveted graduate positions as well as those prestige professional positions (law/ibanking/consulting/PE/tech/etc).

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DP. That respondent obviously meant to write “Brabrand” - as in Dr Brabrand, the former FFX superintendent who lead the alterations to the TJ admissions policy because TJ’s prior admissions lead to 80% Asian student body.

There is no way I’m sending my kid to a 80% Asian school, no matter how good it is.

The top schools in this country obviously share my views.

There is a lot more diversity in 100 white kids than in 100 Asian kids.

Whoa. You just like… went there. 🍿

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DP. That respondent obviously meant to write “Brabrand” - as in Dr Brabrand, the former FFX superintendent who lead the alterations to the TJ admissions policy because TJ’s prior admissions lead to 80% Asian student body.

There is no way I’m sending my kid to a 80% Asian school, no matter how good it is.

The top schools in this country obviously share my views.

There is a lot more diversity in 100 white kids than in 100 Asian kids.

Anonymous wrote:I hope they also get rid of legacy preference and preference for athletes.

* see post re: Gate keepers

I hope they also get rid of legacy preference and preference for athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:They also ruled on the religious liberty of the postal worker. It was unanimous.

This, IMO, was a no-brainer.

I have no problem with that. Kind of the same for people who do or don't want to work on Christmas.

Or Muslims who don't want to work on Friday.