Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:52     Subject: Gosselins

The saddest thing is she turned siblings against him. Mady most likely erased her crazy statement as she is working in the influencer world and clearly someone got to her and told her the she has zero public support trashing her brother. Having a parent turn siblings against each other is so awful because in the end you have your siblings when the parents have long since passed. I see this in non famous families too but Kate raised it to a whole disgusting level. If Colin cannot defend himself because he is in basic training then it speaks volumes that those who know him are defending him. You know I remember years back Kate doing an interview with the twins and they seemed so angry even then so perhaps they need to evaluate if they are taking their anger out against wrong parent.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2023 22:32     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:Kate responded to a bunch of comments under her Instagram statement. If the kid really is at basic training and she issued her statement knowing he couldn’t respond, that’s a new low.


She'll do anything to justify her behavior and get her 5 minutes of fame. She's desperate for attention and money.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2023 10:58     Subject: Gosselins

Kate responded to a bunch of comments under her Instagram statement. If the kid really is at basic training and she issued her statement knowing he couldn’t respond, that’s a new low.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2023 02:38     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


I suspect there are some mental health issues but he grew up in a very toxic home, where he was on tv since what age 1 or 2? and lost his father. He grew up basically in a group home with a host of nannies and tv crew. It's not like Kate had time to give any one child the attention and support they needed. Let's be real.

And, living in one of those facilities for 3 years, if he didn't have issues, he will have them leaving there. At that point, he was sent away and locked up and lost both parents and his siblings.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2023 00:55     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


Do you have a link to info about him signing over his parental rights? That's not a decision a parent gets to make, so something very significant (severe abuse or neglect AND refusal to participate in reunification efforts) would have happened for this to be allowed, and he wouldn't have been allowed to regain custody in any way after terminating his rights. Are you sure this is true?


If child welfare is not involved, which it wasn't generally someone has to adopt to replace that parent. He didn't sign his custody away. A judge took it away after a legal battle and give him limited visitation but when she didn't comply the judge didn't enforce it, which is very typical.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 18:57     Subject: Gosselins

I should add that legally there may be a few instances of opting to legally signing away your parental rights but it's so rare. Jon was never in a situation where he could do this even if Kate should want him to.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 18:53     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


Do you have a link to info about him signing over his parental rights? That's not a decision a parent gets to make, so something very significant (severe abuse or neglect AND refusal to participate in reunification efforts) would have happened for this to be allowed, and he wouldn't have been allowed to regain custody in any way after terminating his rights. Are you sure this is true?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 17:01     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


Jon did not sign away his parental rights. Kate had to pay him child support because she was the higher earner. Those two spent the last 14 years in court. TLC is complicit in all of this; they used their large budget and PR machinery to support Kate while at the same time failing to protect the children.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:54     Subject: Re:Gosselins

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.


How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.


Um it was Kate. Especially once they split Jon stopped being involved with the show. The kids should've also had at least 15% deposited into an account for them as per the Coogan Law (I think that's what it's called).


And therein lies the issue with reality TV. The Coogan Law is for work done in the state of California. NY, IL, NM, and LA have also passed the Coogan Law in their states for child actors. Other states have rules about work hours for minors but not all have rules about money being set aside for the kids.

PA did enact some regulations in 2013 as a result of the Gosselin kids. The regulations included working hours limits, a teacher needing to be present during filming for schooling, trust accounts, and the need for work permits for the kids.


This came up in the Duggar documentary. Those kids also got nothing, it all went to Jim Bob. I do think TLC is somewhat also to blame.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:19     Subject: Gosselins

how she traveled the country with her hand out - while really making $$ in sponsorships, etc:

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:15     Subject: Re:Gosselins



someone who knows Collin posted this comment in support of him. that's awesome and I wish him great success.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:00     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


He did not sign away his parental rights. She had the show paying her attorneys fees and he could not compete with that and lost custody. She had far more income so he would not owe child support. She probably owed him and he had less income.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:58     Subject: Gosselins

looks like Mady deleted all her posts on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mady.gosselin/?hl=en
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:56     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.


a lot of what you heard was TLC spin to keep the show going. They funded Kate's divorce fees and ran Jon over like a MAC truck.

now can you imagine being married to that shrew? you'd go a little nuts when you were freed, too.

team Jon/kids all the way (except Mady. Kate can have her mini-me)

How long before Mady realizes her mother has NPD and when she's no longer useful, Kate will toss her too?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:04     Subject: Gosselins

^^ Jon also signed away many of his parental rights to avoid paying child support. He was pretty scummy, and running to the press every few months with ET exclusives and Docuseries isn't a great look for him. What he did for Collin is great, but I still find his motives to be questionable. The reported abuse and Collin's major car accident suggests there may be some truth to Kate's claims. I tend to believe Collin's version is closer to the truth, though.

I'm curious about Mady's sources for Collin's behavior. Hannah still interacts with her other siblings, so I'm wondering if Mady latched onto details from Hannah to support her opinion of him. Hannah is firmly on Team Collin though, and she's the sibling who has spoken out that I tend to believe most.