Anonymous
05/28/2023 12:49
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
I kind of liked Mae's rendition of the poem, but I think I really don't like the poem itself. Yes, parents give their kids baggage; but I think, often, they tend to fix the baggage their parents gave them and just mess their kids up in new ways (while also strengthening them in new ways.) The Larkin poem strikes me as a shitty, simplistic kind of nihilism.
Huh, I think the poem captures that nuance. “They may not mean to but they do,” after all.
I’ve also always read the final lines of the poem as a joke, even though Larkin’s own biography indicates that it is serious to him (he never had kids). Larkin was a terribly lonely and misanthropic person. On one level This Be the Verse is simply him complains about his mum and dad and the way they messed him up. But most people have kids, and despite the truth of the poem, don’t regret it. Part of the nuance of the poem for me is that it’s author is saying something true — parents always mess up their kids one way or another no matter their best intentions — but then taking the “wrong” lesson from it. So I read the poem and agree but choose to instead be hopeful, to go ahead and have kids with all my good intentions to not mess them up, even though Larkin is 100% right that I WILL f**k them up.
I think the part I dislike about the poem is the idea that we pass along all of the problems that our parents gave us while adding new ones. As if we don't learn from the mistakes our parents made (even if we make new mistakes of our own in the process). It kind of dovetails with the general trope in society that the next generation is somehow always worse than the current generation. As if humanity has been degrading since Eve got us kicked out of Eden. I'm projecting a lot of my own shit onto this poem, but that's kind of what poetry is about. I absolutely detest when people complain about "kids these days."
Anyway, no complaints at all about the poem's use in the show. I thought that scene worked really well. And I'm happy to have heard and read that poem, even if the poem makes me unhappy. If that makes any sense.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 08:02
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
I kind of liked Mae's rendition of the poem, but I think I really don't like the poem itself. Yes, parents give their kids baggage; but I think, often, they tend to fix the baggage their parents gave them and just mess their kids up in new ways (while also strengthening them in new ways.) The Larkin poem strikes me as a shitty, simplistic kind of nihilism.
Huh, I think the poem captures that nuance. “They may not mean to but they do,” after all.
I’ve also always read the final lines of the poem as a joke, even though Larkin’s own biography indicates that it is serious to him (he never had kids). Larkin was a terribly lonely and misanthropic person. On one level This Be the Verse is simply him complains about his mum and dad and the way they messed him up. But most people have kids, and despite the truth of the poem, don’t regret it. Part of the nuance of the poem for me is that it’s author is saying something true — parents always mess up their kids one way or another no matter their best intentions — but then taking the “wrong” lesson from it. So I read the poem and agree but choose to instead be hopeful, to go ahead and have kids with all my good intentions to not mess them up, even though Larkin is 100% right that I WILL f**k them up.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 07:35
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
I kind of liked Mae's rendition of the poem, but I think I really don't like the poem itself. Yes, parents give their kids baggage; but I think, often, they tend to fix the baggage their parents gave them and just mess their kids up in new ways (while also strengthening them in new ways.) The Larkin poem strikes me as a shitty, simplistic kind of nihilism.
Heh. Ask your kids how they feel about it! I think there is love in the poem, in any case.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 23:34
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
I kind of liked Mae's rendition of the poem, but I think I really don't like the poem itself. Yes, parents give their kids baggage; but I think, often, they tend to fix the baggage their parents gave them and just mess their kids up in new ways (while also strengthening them in new ways.) The Larkin poem strikes me as a shitty, simplistic kind of nihilism.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 21:36
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Rupert is dying (he received a call from his fecalist, after all) and so the advice Bex needs is about taking over the team when he’s gone. Not sure how the assistant comes in in that scenario.
His "fecalist" - that was brilliant. So embarrassing for him, in front of Rebecca. But I don't think he's dying. I think he's in big trouble with the ladies, at long last.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 08:40
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Or maybe Rupert is dying (he received a call from his fecalist, after all) and so the advice Bex needs is about taking over the team when he’s gone. Not sure how the assistant comes in in that scenario.
Anonymous
05/26/2023 13:26
Subject: Re:Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay, minor point of annoyance in a great episode - why wasn't Jamie's mother at the game?? It was obviously in their town. Why did she have to watch it on TV? He would/could/should have gotten them tickets!
This occurred to me too and I think it must be because she was rooting for Jamie and his team and would have been heckled mercilessly if she had shown up at the hometown game rooting for a rival.
English Football is very strict about home fans and away fans seating. You cannot really buy a ticket in the general stadium and root for the away team...it is not done, or at your own risk. It's a tradition to have an "away section" where all the away fans sit, and those tickets are usually distributed through the club/season ticket holders. It may sound weird to us Americans but it's actually kind of cool. If you have some really pumped away fans, their songs in their small section can be heard all over the stadium and change the momentum of a match. Plus when the away team scores, if on the right side they will celebrate in front of their own fans. I think at the end of the match in the episode, you see the players celebrating in front of Richmond fans at the match. (Owners/VIPs are different obviously which is why Rebecca et al were in a box.)
Anonymous
05/26/2023 06:53
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved watching Ted get in touch with his feelings and share with his mother the ways in which she “dented” him.
I have zero issues with the language in the show and swear a lot myself but I did flinch when he said the F word to his mother multiple times. But, evolution is hard and sometimes things come out sideways.
I’m going to miss these characters SO much!
He did exactly what Jamie said he would say to his dad “F You” and “Thank You”. I liked that part of arc, where their journeys had parallels in ways you wouldn’t imagine in Season 1.
Ahhh, I missed that parallel, thanks
Anonymous
05/26/2023 06:51
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:I loved watching Ted get in touch with his feelings and share with his mother the ways in which she “dented” him.
I have zero issues with the language in the show and swear a lot myself but I did flinch when he said the F word to his mother multiple times. But, evolution is hard and sometimes things come out sideways.
I’m going to miss these characters SO much!
He did exactly what Jamie said he would say to his dad “F You” and “Thank You”. I liked that part of arc, where their journeys had parallels in ways you wouldn’t imagine in Season 1.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 21:59
Subject: Re:Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay, minor point of annoyance in a great episode - why wasn't Jamie's mother at the game?? It was obviously in their town. Why did she have to watch it on TV? He would/could/should have gotten them tickets!
This occurred to me too and I think it must be because she was rooting for Jamie and his team and would have been heckled mercilessly if she had shown up at the hometown game rooting for a rival.
Thanks! Makes sense.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 21:21
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
Yes!
I loved the Manchester, England song from Hair!
Me too! I loved that they included that song in the episode.
I ended up watching Hair again after that episode.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 21:19
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just found this - a delightful Ted Lasso themed Sesame Street with Roy Kent!! So cute.
The actor has said Sesame Street is his favorite show of all time. So they invited him on.
Brought to you by the letter F - for Fairness
https://nypost.com/2022/04/15/foulmouthed-ted-lasso-star-teaches-cookie-monster-f-word/
Aww, I love that! I love the thank you note he wrote afterwards. What a lovely person.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 19:28
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Loved the Phillip Larkin poem!! Hurray for writers!!
Yes!
I loved the Manchester, England song from Hair!
Anonymous
05/25/2023 18:45
Subject: Re:Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain Bex and Ms. Cakes? Who are they-missed that
I have a feeling Ms. Cakes was harassed by Rupert and went to Bex for help. Bex is probably well aware that Rupert screws around on her. I bet they want to band together with Rebecca and sue him.
Maybe ms. Cakes is pregnant and Rebecca is going to adopt the baby
That's what the internet seems to think - it would make sense! Also maybe Becks and/or Kakes getting control of West Ham (somehow).
But that would tie Rebecca to Rupert forever. I can't see it.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 17:57
Subject: Ted Lasso - Season 3
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just found this - a delightful Ted Lasso themed Sesame Street with Roy Kent!! So cute.
The actor has said Sesame Street is his favorite show of all time. So they invited him on.
Brought to you by the letter F - for Fairness
https://nypost.com/2022/04/15/foulmouthed-ted-lasso-star-teaches-cookie-monster-f-word/