Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:17
Subject: Re:Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it concerning that LGBT issues get folded in with racial issues as a disguise.
The Respect for Marriage seemed to do just that. There was a very tiny threat to the concept of interracial marriage. However, the LGBT community grabbed it and packaged it along with gay marriage to get the agenda going.
In this case, somehow, understanding African American culture also involves understanding gay issues.
Because of course there are no black gays.
DP. Of course there are black gays. And white gays, Hispanic gays, Asian gays, etc. What is your point?
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:17
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All the authors banned are pretty much basic, foundational authors for thinking about black experience in the US.
Shows how powerful they are that so many are scared by their writings.
Thomas Sowell is a basic, foundational author for thinking about black experience in the U.S. Hopefully they'll explore some of his writings.
I think it’s fine to read widely. It’s the onlynway you really understand, is to read everything. Reading something does not equate endorsing it.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:16
Subject: Re:Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:I find it concerning that LGBT issues get folded in with racial issues as a disguise.
The Respect for Marriage seemed to do just that. There was a very tiny threat to the concept of interracial marriage. However, the LGBT community grabbed it and packaged it along with gay marriage to get the agenda going.
In this case, somehow, understanding African American culture also involves understanding gay issues.
+100
I thought exactly the same thing.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:15
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
The controversial-and-now-optional subjects are not Black issues, they are progressive issues. It's a bit insulting to tack them onto an AA Studies class, tbh.
You sound like the whites who only want to quote MLK’s “content of their character” and never his take on poverty, his Poor People’s Campaign, or his chiding of white moderates.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:15
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:All the authors banned are pretty much basic, foundational authors for thinking about black experience in the US.
Shows how powerful they are that so many are scared by their writings.
Thomas Sowell is a basic, foundational author for thinking about black experience in the U.S. Hopefully they'll explore some of his writings.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:10
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
The controversial-and-now-optional subjects are not Black issues, they are progressive issues. It's a bit insulting to tack them onto an AA Studies class, tbh.
THIS. You summed up the issue perfectly. Take a bow.
Wtf. Are you denying Black experience in America has been marked by “progressive issues”??? I mean my god. What were the abolitionist movement and the civil rights era if not progressive? They are the very definition of progressivism.
You people clearly slept in whatever history/political science/American study classes you took.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:10
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
Yes, indeed.
And, it is important to note that even African American history teachers had huge concerns about the original curriculum. Competent teachers, that is.
Leon County Commissioner Bill Proctor, a Black Democrat, agreed with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, R., last week that a proposed AP African American history course that was rejected by the state's Department of Education constitutes propaganda rather than a legitimate educational curriculum. DeSantis blocked the course on grounds that it violated the Sunshine State's Stop WOKE Act that was passed last year.
"I think it’s trash," Proctor said about the curriculum.
"There is grave concern about the tone and the tenor of leadership’s voice from the highest spaces in our state being hostile to teaching of African American history," he noted, according to Tallahassee Reports.
"Well frankly I’m against the College Board’s curriculum. I think it’s trash. It’s not African American history. It is ideology," Proctor continued.
"I’ve taught African American history, I’ve structured syllabuses for African American history. I am African American history. And talking about ‘queer’ and ‘feminism’ and all of that for the struggle for freedom and equality and justice has not been no tension with queerness and feminist thought at all," he argued.
+100
Good for Bill Proctor.
Proctor proposed a 15-member panel to help craft an adequate course that includes, among other topics, the struggle for freedom from slavery, economics, the Black family, societal contributions and poverty.
And this: In a tweet last month, Florida Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr. said the course was “filled with Critical Race Theory and other obvious violations of Florida law.”
“We proudly require the teaching of African American history,” he said. “We do not accept woke indoctrination masquerading as education.”
https://www.yahoo.com/now/calling-trash-proctor-pushes-desantis-202114905.html
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:02
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
The controversial-and-now-optional subjects are not Black issues, they are progressive issues. It's a bit insulting to tack them onto an AA Studies class, tbh.
THIS. You summed up the issue perfectly. Take a bow.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:01
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
+1
Anonymous
02/01/2023 22:00
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:
The controversial subjects have been made into options for a research project. This makes more sense than being a part of the required curriculum. College Board improved the class with these revisions.
Yep. But now we get to listen to ever more outrage, even though the controversial subjects are still an option for anyone who wants to learn about them.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 21:57
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question: Did Desantis pick apart all AP curricula? Or did he just examine the AA one?
What other AP curricula pushes a certain agenda? We'll wait.
a·gen·da
/əˈjendə/
noun
1. a list of items to be discussed at a formal meeting.
Well, PP’s, I’d guess all of them have their own certain list of things to discuss.
So funny how you left out this definition, right under the one you chose:
the underlying intentions or motives of a particular person or group
Anonymous
02/01/2023 21:46
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Happy Black History Month, y’all!
You mean Happy Intersectional Queer Month!!
Now that would be a fabulous celebration! Can’t deny it.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 21:44
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:Happy Black History Month, y’all!
You mean Happy Intersectional Queer Month!!
Anonymous
02/01/2023 21:40
Subject: Re:Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Anonymous wrote:I find it concerning that LGBT issues get folded in with racial issues as a disguise.
The Respect for Marriage seemed to do just that. There was a very tiny threat to the concept of interracial marriage. However, the LGBT community grabbed it and packaged it along with gay marriage to get the agenda going.
In this case, somehow, understanding African American culture also involves understanding gay issues.
Too bad. The AP class still includes discussion of the experience of black lesbians and gays during the civil rights era. Go clutch your pearls!
Anonymous
02/01/2023 21:34
Subject: Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools
Happy Black History Month, y’all!