Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:05     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:I wish they had a live voting tally on the screen to see how many votes each person has.
they do on CNN
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:05     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading about the 1855 stalemate. They eventually resolved that by voting to change the rules to make it a plurality instead of a majority. I could see that being a path here if they can get Democratic buy-in by giving Jeffries concessions.

They'd only do this if McCarthy had more votes than Jeffries, but not enough to reach 218.


The need enough votes to make the change. The people willing to continue voting against McCarthy aren't going to vote for a rules change that paves the way for him to get elected, and there is no reason for the democrats to give the republicans an easy way out of this.


What if McCarthy promised to pass a clean debt-ceiling increase?


does he have the republican votes to follow through?


I think McCarthy would only need to bring it (increase in debt limit) up for a vote and it would pass pretty easily with Dems and moderate Republicans. Of course there’s no way Dems could enforce this once McCarthy wins the Speakership. And McCarthy would face a brutal revolt from the “Freedom Caucus” if he went through with it.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:04     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they had a live voting tally on the screen to see how many votes each person has.


Watch C-SPAN


Right. C-SPAN is fascinating to watch but only shows current vote. I think PP was / is looking for the cumulative voting of each member, to possibly gauge a change in the voting?

Kornacki is tracking that on MSNBC.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:02     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading about the 1855 stalemate. They eventually resolved that by voting to change the rules to make it a plurality instead of a majority. I could see that being a path here if they can get Democratic buy-in by giving Jeffries concessions.

They'd only do this if McCarthy had more votes than Jeffries, but not enough to reach 218.


The need enough votes to make the change. The people willing to continue voting against McCarthy aren't going to vote for a rules change that paves the way for him to get elected, and there is no reason for the democrats to give the republicans an easy way out of this.


What if McCarthy promised to pass a clean debt-ceiling increase?


Again, this is NOT the Democrats job to fix GOP dysfunction. I get it, Dems always need to be the grownups in the room. But as a parent, you need to let your kids be on their own path, even if it means failing. So please STOP with the "Dems should do this..." nonsense. The GOP is the majority, they need to get their act together or step aside and let the grownups be in charge.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:02     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the game today. Who is "Donalds"?


A Black Florida man congressman so that the GOP can claim that they aren't racist, which by nominating him shows how utterly racist they are.

Roy even quoted the I Have a Dream speech during his nomination.

Yes, that one part is the only thing that Martin Luther King Jr. ever said that Republicans know.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:01     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:McCarthy now has the votes. he will be speaker tomorrow after the first vote


Source?



No way the Freedom Caucus will vote for K.Mc and without those votes, he doesn't have a majority.


So why wouldn't McCarthy just wait them out? Nobody else is even close to having as many votes. Well, except Jeffries.


Apparently, McCarthy does not believe his lying eyes and ears. I hope they keep voting until the azaleas are in bloom in Antarctica.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:01     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they had a live voting tally on the screen to see how many votes each person has.


Watch C-SPAN


Right. C-SPAN is fascinating to watch but only shows current vote. I think PP was / is looking for the cumulative voting of each member, to possibly gauge a change in the voting?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 13:00     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

thanks (pp looking for tally of votes)!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:59     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:I wish they had a live voting tally on the screen to see how many votes each person has.


Watch C-SPAN
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:59     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

His wife is in bed with Hillsdale College and the RWNJ charter school movement.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:58     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

So, are some of them drunk? What was that rebel yell?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:57     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I was reading about the 1855 stalemate. They eventually resolved that by voting to change the rules to make it a plurality instead of a majority. I could see that being a path here if they can get Democratic buy-in by giving Jeffries concessions.

They'd only do this if McCarthy had more votes than Jeffries, but not enough to reach 218.


The need enough votes to make the change. The people willing to continue voting against McCarthy aren't going to vote for a rules change that paves the way for him to get elected, and there is no reason for the democrats to give the republicans an easy way out of this.


What if McCarthy promised to pass a clean debt-ceiling increase?


does he have the republican votes to follow through?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:57     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:I wish they had a live voting tally on the screen to see how many votes each person has.


https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-leadership-vote-1-4-23/h_4650a96eedbfcbb1e59fa7bc11bc6c44
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2023 12:55     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading about the 1855 stalemate. They eventually resolved that by voting to change the rules to make it a plurality instead of a majority. I could see that being a path here if they can get Democratic buy-in by giving Jeffries concessions.

They'd only do this if McCarthy had more votes than Jeffries, but not enough to reach 218.


The need enough votes to make the change. The people willing to continue voting against McCarthy aren't going to vote for a rules change that paves the way for him to get elected, and there is no reason for the democrats to give the republicans an easy way out of this.


What if McCarthy promised to pass a clean debt-ceiling increase?