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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

And if people noticed, he commented that he was simply asking because they both needed to save room for what he said was going to be a huge dinner they were going to later - nothing to do with her weight. He inquired as to why she had eaten so little earlier and even commented that he offered her more food than she ate. I didn’t get any “you need to lose weight” vibes; he merely guesses as to the reason why she had eaten so little. Should he have said “you’re beautiful and don’t need to lose weight”? Sure, maybe, but his comments beforehand weren’t malicious.



He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

And if people noticed, he commented that he was simply asking because they both needed to save room for what he said was going to be a huge dinner they were going to later - nothing to do with her weight. He inquired as to why she had eaten so little earlier and even commented that he offered her more food than she ate. I didn’t get any “you need to lose weight” vibes; he merely guesses as to the reason why she had eaten so little. Should he have said “you’re beautiful and don’t need to lose weight”? Sure, maybe, but his comments beforehand weren’t malicious.



He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:Bartise is gaslighting scum. Go, Nancy!

Also, he is so unattractive and she looked beautiful.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

And what if he does that all the time like she said? Constant questions like that about what she’s eating? Your head is in the sand if you think that’s innocent and not damaging.

Well, how about they air the footage? The one they did, it was all about Zanab hearing what she heard in her own head, and not having a good handle on the context or tone.

Cole isn't perfect, his convo with Colleen was awful. But Zanab is a messed up person in her own right, and so unnecessarily blaming Cole for everything. She takes zero accountability for her own crappy behavior.

These food comments are right on the heels of him telling his new fiancé that she’s not the type of woman he’s normally attracted to, that Colleen is a 10 while she’s a 9, that she looks so different without makeup. You might to willing to dismiss isolated clips, but taken as a whole in context, he’s an ass. He may not be consciously pressuring her to change her body, that I can give him. But intent is not the same as impact. All of those moments together have an impact. He seemed to realize it towards the end of the reunion. Bartise, who did the same thing to Nancy, did not.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

And what if he does that all the time like she said? Constant questions like that about what she’s eating? Your head is in the sand if you think that’s innocent and not damaging.

Well, how about they air the footage? The one they did, it was all about Zanab hearing what she heard in her own head, and not having a good handle on the context or tone.

Cole isn't perfect, his convo with Colleen was awful. But Zanab is a messed up person in her own right, and so unnecessarily blaming Cole for everything. She takes zero accountability for her own crappy behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

And what if he does that all the time like she said? Constant questions like that about what she’s eating? Your head is in the sand if you think that’s innocent and not damaging.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, Zanab is one insecure, and perhaps even abusive woman. I say this as a woman who lost my parents young as well. Girl may not be bipolar, but BPD isn't off the table. She's nuts.

Zanab is a beautiful woman who deserves someone on her level. Cole is immature and not the right person for her. She was right to say no to him. They were not a good match.

Zanab was a total B. She's the worst. Cole can do much better, he needs a sweet girl.

Cole is very immature and sloppy. He deserved getting dumped at the altar. He spent too much time being unkind to Zanab. She can do so much better!

+1 I can't tell if his tears were sincere or if he is just another gaslighting creep. I really don't know.

I will say the "cuties" scene was ambiguous. He definitely said it, but seemed more clueless than anything else. My take is that he does want to grow up, and also can't stand being disliked. You know, because he's fun, genial Cole whom everyone normally likes. Just a very immature guy, who says thoughtless things but generally means well. Which is what Zanab seemed to come to in the end. Speaks volumes though that she had all the support in the group, including from the guys it seemed.

He's a typical cute guy who's coasted on his looks and fun personality, and never been called out on his ish before. I think he was definitely shocked when that happened, and I'd like to think he's sincere in wanting to improve. Time will tell. Whereas gross Bartise is a lost cause.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress).

Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on.

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think about Raven and SK continuing to date?

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

What did he say or do wrong? Truly?

Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:The "cuties" footage at the end of the finale very, very clearly proved that Zanab is batshit insane and rewrites things to make her to be a perpetual victim. Cole did absolutely nothing wrong in that scene.

You're nuts.