Anonymous wrote:Everyone who sexually abuses kids is a shithead. No brainer.

If anyone or any organization covers it up instead of addressing it and protecting the kids first and foremost, you have more shitheads involved. Also no-brainer.

If anyone or any organization not just covers it up but facillitates more abuse by putting that person back in charge of kids they can abuse, you've got a third level of shithead. Again, no-brainer.

Holds true for everyone, across the board. I have yet to see an atheist disagree with that. I think I haven't seen any religious people disagree with that in this thread, but there does seem to be a lot of refocusing when the question is asked -- nonetheless, as far as I know, no direct defense of any of the shitheads.

So that's 29 pages of driving around in circles like a clown car. They're all shitheads, all the abusers, lock them up. Done.

The thread is not over because that is a weak argument.

The molestation is clearly, by all documented cases, investigations, arrests, etc, clearly being shown to be worse by non-atheists.

Silverman, who was listed on this thread, kicked out because he assaulted two women. That’s great.

Dawkins, literally said something, but did not do anything (other than write a book) was scrutinized by the media. There is no case against him because last I check the 1st amendment still exists.

Third harris I have no fling clue.

But in reality land. The majority of abuse is coming from houses of worship that sexually repress their clearly who in turn act out on the flock. The OP and any other offended person of faith on here has not presented a winning argument that atheism is the bigger threat or even a threat at all.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who sexually abuses kids is a shithead. No brainer.

If anyone or any organization covers it up instead of addressing it and protecting the kids first and foremost, you have more shitheads involved. Also no-brainer.

If anyone or any organization not just covers it up but facillitates more abuse by putting that person back in charge of kids they can abuse, you've got a third level of shithead. Again, no-brainer.

Holds true for everyone, across the board. I have yet to see an atheist disagree with that. I think I haven't seen any religious people disagree with that in this thread, but there does seem to be a lot of refocusing when the question is asked -- nonetheless, as far as I know, no direct defense of any of the shitheads.

So that's 29 pages of driving around in circles like a clown car. They're all shitheads, all the abusers, lock them up. Done.

Every single (excellent) point you’ve made has been made multiple times.

OP is just a troll pushing this faux issue because she gets off on it. Gross.

Everyone who sexually abuses kids is a shithead. No brainer.

If anyone or any organization covers it up instead of addressing it and protecting the kids first and foremost, you have more shitheads involved. Also no-brainer.

If anyone or any organization not just covers it up but facillitates more abuse by putting that person back in charge of kids they can abuse, you've got a third level of shithead. Again, no-brainer.

Holds true for everyone, across the board. I have yet to see an atheist disagree with that. I think I haven't seen any religious people disagree with that in this thread, but there does seem to be a lot of refocusing when the question is asked -- nonetheless, as far as I know, no direct defense of any of the shitheads.

So that's 29 pages of driving around in circles like a clown car. They're all shitheads, all the abusers, lock them up. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.

People need to start making this claim. You’ve inadvertently hit the nail in the head. Atheists like you need to stop sweeping their own sexism and sexual abuse issues under the rug while they attack others.

How can you read this from pp’s post on the previous page and think that all’s well with sexual conduct in the atheist community.

“Michael Shermer was supported by the atheist community after he was accused of raping several women.

Shermer got legal funds without asking on a fundraiser page built by Emery Emery, the “Ardent Atheist”.[29] The fundraser included a rape joke with generous contributors offered a bottomless glass of wine, with Emery “who will not be drinking but keeping your glass full.” This was a reminder that one woman complained Shermer repeatedly refilled her glass. Myers also got an offer of legal help from Popehat who is experienced with online libel trouble.[30]”

Or the sexist comments from Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris that are also in pp’s posts.

Where is there anyone claiming that people who identify as atheists can be abusers, too, just as much as any religious enthusiasts?

Gets us to a bigger point, that people suck in general. It’s not limited to Catholics, despite what some of you want us to believe.

And that atheist and religious communities are all guilty in supporting abusers.

Which you’d never realize from reading the gleeful posts by anti-Catholic bigots every time there’s a new case of priest abuse. Also, the denial and defensiveness on this thread about atheist abuse is revealing.

But where is your evidence? Also, nambla is not an atheist specific organization. Where is your proof? You just have words and no proof.

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists do not do thinks just because a book says so. Especially immoral or irrational things.

Religious people do exactly that. Including immoral and irrational things. Just because a book says so.

Many atheists circle around their leaders who are accused of rape and sexism and even give them financial support for their legal bills. See the previous page.

Also, it’s ridiculous to claim that the holy books of Judaism or Christianity support pedophilia. You clearly know nothing about religion or religious “books.”

Can you please show some examples of that?

I can point to Ted Haggard, Wes Goodman, in fact here’s a list of priests by state:

https://www.abuselawsuit.com/church-sex-abuse/accused-clergy/

Got anything besides Dawkins and maybe people buying his book? I mean it doesn’t mean they’re all atheists who buy his book, but please show us your list of atheists with big support groups that forgive them for molesting like so many mega churchs do for their priests when they molest?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.

People need to start making this claim. You’ve inadvertently hit the nail in the head. Atheists like you need to stop sweeping their own sexism and sexual abuse issues under the rug while they attack others.

How can you read this from pp’s post on the previous page and think that all’s well with sexual conduct in the atheist community.

“Michael Shermer was supported by the atheist community after he was accused of raping several women.

Shermer got legal funds without asking on a fundraiser page built by Emery Emery, the “Ardent Atheist”.[29] The fundraser included a rape joke with generous contributors offered a bottomless glass of wine, with Emery “who will not be drinking but keeping your glass full.” This was a reminder that one woman complained Shermer repeatedly refilled her glass. Myers also got an offer of legal help from Popehat who is experienced with online libel trouble.[30]”

Or the sexist comments from Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris that are also in pp’s posts.

Where is there anyone claiming that people who identify as atheists can be abusers, too, just as much as any religious enthusiasts?

Gets us to a bigger point, that people suck in general. It’s not limited to Catholics, despite what some of you want us to believe.

And that atheist and religious communities are all guilty in supporting abusers.

Which you’d never realize from reading the gleeful posts by anti-Catholic bigots every time there’s a new case of priest abuse. Also, the denial and defensiveness on this thread about atheist abuse is revealing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.

People need to start making this claim. You’ve inadvertently hit the nail in the head. Atheists like you need to stop sweeping their own sexism and sexual abuse issues under the rug while they attack others.

How can you read this from pp’s post on the previous page and think that all’s well with sexual conduct in the atheist community.

“Michael Shermer was supported by the atheist community after he was accused of raping several women.

Shermer got legal funds without asking on a fundraiser page built by Emery Emery, the “Ardent Atheist”.[29] The fundraser included a rape joke with generous contributors offered a bottomless glass of wine, with Emery “who will not be drinking but keeping your glass full.” This was a reminder that one woman complained Shermer repeatedly refilled her glass. Myers also got an offer of legal help from Popehat who is experienced with online libel trouble.[30]”

Or the sexist comments from Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris that are also in pp’s posts.

I think you’re the OP masking as someone else because this post is so similar to the major focus of the thread.

No atheist is sweeping anything under the rug. It’s that people of faith clearly have a lopsided amount of verifiable evidence about actual sexual assaults that have taken places in houses of worship by clergy under the leadership of those houses of worship.

You can’t point to atheism in the same way and it vexes you so greatly.

Atheism isn’t a repressive ideology like Evangelical Christianity or Catholicism that has clearly shown itself to result in sexually frustrated clergy molesting kids. The investigations and findings are clear as day and some have been listed on this thread. Your accusations of atheism having some much molestation under its belt are only vague or are not actual examples of physical sexual assaults that have taken place and have been verified by authorities. So you’re just arguing anecdotally without tangible proof.

Maybe this is all an elaborate ruse by a trolling atheist to sort of backhandedly underscore how bad sexual abuse in houses of worship is. Your points have not landed with anyone. You’ve shown no actual cases (“but dawkins said pedophila was….!!!” Is not a clear case. You have shown nothing that was committed).


I really think it’s just high level trolling meant to get atheists to have dredge up all the easily located studies and evidence that shows their religion is fking disgusting when it comes to assaulting kids and then covering up for those assaults. That’s why I don’t go to church. You are bad to Gay people and assault children and cover it up.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists do not do thinks just because a book says so. Especially immoral or irrational things.

Religious people do exactly that. Including immoral and irrational things. Just because a book says so.

Many atheists circle around their leaders who are accused of rape and sexism and even give them financial support for their legal bills. See the previous page.

Also, it’s ridiculous to claim that the holy books of Judaism or Christianity support pedophilia. You clearly know nothing about religion or religious “books.”

You did not read the post you are replying to. Your response is non-sequitur. If you would like to read the post you replied to and respond in context, that would be welcomed. Your threadsh*tting is not something I wish to engage in or encourage.

The threadsh!ter is the ignoramus/liar who claims any holy text supports pedophilia. Save your faux threadsh!tying outrage for situations where you’re not so transparently trolling.

But hey, from your POV, anything that moves off the problem of atheist abuse is good, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists do not do thinks just because a book says so. Especially immoral or irrational things.

Religious people do exactly that. Including immoral and irrational things. Just because a book says so.

Many atheists circle around their leaders who are accused of rape and sexism and even give them financial support for their legal bills. See the previous page.

Also, it’s ridiculous to claim that the holy books of Judaism or Christianity support pedophilia. You clearly know nothing about religion or religious “books.”

You did not read the post you are replying to. Your response is non-sequitur. If you would like to read the post you replied to and respond in context, that would be welcomed. Your threadsh*tting is not something I wish to engage in or encourage.

^^CAN'T be abusers

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Anonymous wrote:It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.

People need to start making this claim. You’ve inadvertently hit the nail in the head. Atheists like you need to stop sweeping their own sexism and sexual abuse issues under the rug while they attack others.

How can you read this from pp’s post on the previous page and think that all’s well with sexual conduct in the atheist community.

“Michael Shermer was supported by the atheist community after he was accused of raping several women.

Shermer got legal funds without asking on a fundraiser page built by Emery Emery, the “Ardent Atheist”.[29] The fundraser included a rape joke with generous contributors offered a bottomless glass of wine, with Emery “who will not be drinking but keeping your glass full.” This was a reminder that one woman complained Shermer repeatedly refilled her glass. Myers also got an offer of legal help from Popehat who is experienced with online libel trouble.[30]”

Or the sexist comments from Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris that are also in pp’s posts.

Where is there anyone claiming that people who identify as atheists can be abusers, too, just as much as any religious enthusiasts?

Anonymous wrote:Atheists do not do thinks just because a book says so. Especially immoral or irrational things.

Religious people do exactly that. Including immoral and irrational things. Just because a book says so.

Many atheists circle around their leaders who are accused of rape and sexism and even give them financial support for their legal bills. See the previous page.

Also, it’s ridiculous to claim that the holy books of Judaism or Christianity support pedophilia. You clearly know nothing about religion or religious “books.”

Atheists do not do thinks just because a book says so. Especially immoral or irrational things.

Religious people do exactly that. Including immoral and irrational things. Just because a book says so.

Anonymous wrote:It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.

People need to start making this claim. You’ve inadvertently hit the nail in the head. Atheists like you need to stop sweeping their own sexism and sexual abuse issues under the rug while they attack others.

How can you read this from pp’s post on the previous page and think that all’s well with sexual conduct in the atheist community.

“Michael Shermer was supported by the atheist community after he was accused of raping several women.

Shermer got legal funds without asking on a fundraiser page built by Emery Emery, the “Ardent Atheist”.[29] The fundraser included a rape joke with generous contributors offered a bottomless glass of wine, with Emery “who will not be drinking but keeping your glass full.” This was a reminder that one woman complained Shermer repeatedly refilled her glass. Myers also got an offer of legal help from Popehat who is experienced with online libel trouble.[30]”

Or the sexist comments from Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris that are also in pp’s posts.

It's a weird thread. It's a committed defense against a claim nobody is making, and it is very determined to die on that one particular hill, regardless of whether it is actually on any map.

Fascinating.