Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:53
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.
Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.
Having cookies at the end of the meal isn't a "reward", it's eating food in order. Fwiw, metabolically, it's healthiest.
No, it's not "healthiest." That is nonsense. Putting sweets last on purpose creates the idea that sweet stuff is a reward and it is forbidden until other things are gone is what contributes to disordered eating. Food does not need to be eaten "in order" and actually it is better to eat sweet stuff first than later. Salads are supposed to be eaten after meals vs. before. You don't know what you are talking about.
No, it's just common sense. Dessert is not put last as a "reward" -- you don't know how much a child is going to eat at any given meal so it makes sense to have them eat the most important foods first; that way if they get full or just peter out, they've at least eaten a nutritious meal, which matters for growing kids, and the thing they skip is the dessert (which for most people is eaten because it's sweet, not because it's a banana and oatmeal baked disk).
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:51
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Apart from allergies, the teacher needs to keep her nose out of the students food.
Allergies are an example of a situation where the teacher is going to lose every time. So are religious accommodations. So are cultural differences. The sooner the teacher realizes that her authority does not include policing school lunches— and let’s face it as soon as the kids are in kindergarten no one is doing this— the better equipped the teacher will be to teach in a multicultural environment.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:49
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.
Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.
The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.
I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:48
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Apart from allergies, the teacher needs to keep her nose out of the students food.
No fool the parents need to lay off the teachers
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:47
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Lock this parent up!
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:46
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Sensible preschools (and elementary schools) prohibit candy and cookies/sweets. Saves so many headaches for everyone.
If this is such a widespread rule why are so many posters saying the teacher has to police the children because parents can’t be trusted not to send fruit snacks and Oreos?
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:43
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Sensible preschools (and elementary schools) prohibit candy and cookies/sweets. Saves so many headaches for everyone.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:42
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.
Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.
The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:38
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Apart from allergies, the teacher needs to keep her nose out of the students food.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:35
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:33
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
Personally that is my approach but it does nothing about unhealthy rules. So not really a win for children at all just adult avoidance of advocating a healthy environment for kids.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:25
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:24
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?
It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.
Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:24
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
I would stop sending the cookies no matter how healthy. She doesn’t have time for all the lunch anyway. Unless of course I had a kid in like 1st percentile which OP doesn’t.
Anonymous
08/23/2022 20:07
Subject: Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?
I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?