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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Virtual teachers work far harder than in person given they have to adapt the standard lesson plans and much more. Grow up already. MVA is here to stay. Families and staff will continue to advocate. Hopefully one day MCPS will give enough funding to allow anyone who wants to attend a spot.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

You stop it. You sound like a petulant child who lost an argument and is trying to save face. It’s not a good look for any of you trying to advocate for LESS tools and resources OTHER taxpayers want for their children. That’s how society works. It’s fair for MCPS to reevaluate and make changes based on need and what they can provide. The fact the board took the time to listen and is keeping it around for another year means they believe in something it’s offering. For a district that prides itself on equity, keeping this program in some capacity is to be expected. Worry about your children. If a valuable new resource became available to you and then was threatened to be taken away, we would advocate for you too. Have some empathy and I don’t want a retort about your rights. Everyone has rights. Even these children who clearly have families that are standing up for what their children need. So many more kids come in person and struggle in silence, and end up slipping though the cracks. If you truly believe children are being abused at home, then why arent all of you advocating for ALL children? Why is everyone only worried about MVA children, who are clearly a unique and diverse population? Of course the data isn’t going to look how a traditional school is expected to perform. Accurate data analysis should look at academic and social emotional growth of this student population and take into consideration their unique needs. As you all are famous for saying, if you don’t like that MCPS is trying to listen and do what they can for these families, then you are also free to leave.

How is it not a good look to argue against a program that takes money away from my kids so that other kids don’t have to go to school because they’re too shy and socially awkward? You’re right this is how society works - you try to protect your snowflakes by siphoning funds away from a school system for your niche needs and I get to point out why I think it’s wrong.

And equity? Really? We’re using equity now to give millions of dollars to kids who can’t make friends in person and so want to stay at home on a computer? Nice way to co-opt a term that is meant to remedy centuries of racial and economic injustice. I’m guessing you’re the same poster from yesterday who blamed the failure of the mva on the NAACP.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

You stop it. You sound like a petulant child who lost an argument and is trying to save face. It’s not a good look for any of you trying to advocate for LESS tools and resources OTHER taxpayers want for their children. That’s how society works. It’s fair for MCPS to reevaluate and make changes based on need and what they can provide. The fact the board took the time to listen and is keeping it around for another year means they believe in something it’s offering. For a district that prides itself on equity, keeping this program in some capacity is to be expected. Worry about your children. If a valuable new resource became available to you and then was threatened to be taken away, we would advocate for you too. Have some empathy and I don’t want a retort about your rights. Everyone has rights. Even these children who clearly have families that are standing up for what their children need. So many more kids come in person and struggle in silence, and end up slipping though the cracks. If you truly believe children are being abused at home, then why arent all of you advocating for ALL children? Why is everyone only worried about MVA children, who are clearly a unique and diverse population? Of course the data isn’t going to look how a traditional school is expected to perform. Accurate data analysis should look at academic and social emotional growth of this student population and take into consideration their unique needs. As you all are famous for saying, if you don’t like that MCPS is trying to listen and do what they can for these families, then you are also free to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

Maybe just elementary. They can't justify entire grades that are fewer than 40 kids.

So, the simple solution is to add more staffing so they can accept more kids.

Adding additional costs to a failing program, and driving down educational outcomes for potentially more students. Or perhaps not, since no responsible parent would keep their 8-year-old locked at home. Even in a county of our size, there's not going to be more than about 40 parents like that.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

Maybe just elementary. They can't justify entire grades that are fewer than 40 kids.

So, the simple solution is to add more staffing so they can accept more kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

You stop it. You sound like a petulant child who lost an argument and is trying to save face. It’s not a good look for any of you trying to advocate for LESS tools and resources OTHER taxpayers want for their children. That’s how society works. It’s fair for MCPS to reevaluate and make changes based on need and what they can provide. The fact the board took the time to listen and is keeping it around for another year means they believe in something it’s offering. For a district that prides itself on equity, keeping this program in some capacity is to be expected. Worry about your children. If a valuable new resource became available to you and then was threatened to be taken away, we would advocate for you too. Have some empathy and I don’t want a retort about your rights. Everyone has rights. Even these children who clearly have families that are standing up for what their children need. So many more kids come in person and struggle in silence, and end up slipping though the cracks. If you truly believe children are being abused at home, then why arent all of you advocating for ALL children? Why is everyone only worried about MVA children, who are clearly a unique and diverse population? Of course the data isn’t going to look how a traditional school is expected to perform. Accurate data analysis should look at academic and social emotional growth of this student population and take into consideration their unique needs. As you all are famous for saying, if you don’t like that MCPS is trying to listen and do what they can for these families, then you are also free to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

At least we know the VA supporters are delusional. The other option was actively trying to harm their children so it's much better.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

Maybe just elementary. They can't justify entire grades that are fewer than 40 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Give her a break. After 4 years of being holed up at home, she probably doesn't fit into pants anymore.

What is wrong with you? You must be stuck in the past. I work for major federal IT contractor and 80% of our projects are remote. We all fit in our pants just fine LOL

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Stop it with the talk of the wait list already. The program has lost two-thirds of its participants in 3 years, with over 40% declines in enrollment year over year in two consecutive years. It’s not like it’s brimming with popularity. It’s just that MCPS can see the writing on the wall and staffed the program with a skeleton crew and doesn’t want to add additional staff to a dying program in order to serve additional enrollment beyond what they accepted for this year.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

They will not cut the program with full classes and a waiting list (MS/HS)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.

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Anonymous wrote:The MVA is here to stay!

For now. They will cut it for FY25-26.