Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 22:43     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?


So ironic that you reference “stop the steal” when the task force member who pushed the neighborhood split (and is part of the Smart Growth lobby) is so connected to Trumpworld, the national GOP and even Russian meddling in Ukrainian politics. And it’s worth noting that CP Smart Growth has been exposed as a non-transparent, astroturf group formed by a political consultant. It’s basically the same handful of people retweeting each other’s posts in an echo chamber and meeting over beer and wings at Nanny O'Briens. They have had some political success, to be sure. When one works with Manafort and the guy who did the Willie Horton ad, you learn to play an aggressive game.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 22:37     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?


Same in Foxhall Village, which also pitched a fit about the new maps.

Here's the historical context: DC's population hit its all-time high in 1950. It declined steadily for 50 years, hitting a modern low in 2000. Only in the past ten years has it begun growing quickly, adding about a thousand residents a month for the past 120 months.

When the city was shrinking, it was easy to accommodate NIMBY's, because there always was "somewhere else" that you could build things, because people were fleeing the city. The playbook started to change ten years ago, with growing population we need more public infrastructure and the choices about where to put it are more constrained. Yet the old guard NIMBY's don't realize things have changed, they mash the same buttons and wonder why they don't get the same results, like a couch potato whose remote has dead batteries.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 22:18     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
What's happened to the Cleveland Park - what do we call them? NIMBYs? Ruling class? They were a force to be reckoned with back in the day. Now they are losing everything they would have won a decade ago. I guess either the times they are a changin, or maybe it's that they never had any organized pushback like they have now. This whole thread - the lashing out and attacks - they've become a bit of a spectacle.  And not just here. There was that nutty lady at the council redistricting hearing talking about dark money. And the signs that reminded everyone of "stop the steal." It's all just very sad.

It seems like the same 15 or 20 people that have been around forever. Where's the next generation of CP anti-change people?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 22:15     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:Here are the maps -
https://www.uptownurbanist.com/blog/council-approves-ward-3-anc-map

Those are not the officially approved maps. Where’s a link to the DC government source?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 22:09     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Here are the maps -
https://www.uptownurbanist.com/blog/council-approves-ward-3-anc-map
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 21:22     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:An actual ANC commissioner, albeit from Petworth, was heavily lobbying the Council yesterday to vote to divide Ward 3 neighborhoods. Really. Why?


This person is awful. They really think they should have a say in what happens in Ward 3.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 21:06     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
I’ve googled every permutation I can think of and cannot find any map to show me the boundaries. No local news coverage, either. So weird.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 21:02     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C


Posted where?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 20:05     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


Mary Cheh should just step down already. She’s basically been checked out for some time Cheh’s been delegating major decisions to her chief of staff for the last 18 months. The talk in the Wilson Building is that her slashing speech on redistricting yesterday was written by Jerry-Mandering Malitz or Bob Ward of the Task Force. If Cheh is too lazy to meet with constituents and do her job, she should save the taxpayers their money and leave 6 months early. She’s still got her GWU salary.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 19:49     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
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Anonymous wrote:It’s blatant gerrymandering to cut out the voices- voters and ANC reps - who are interested in more reasonable growth in Cleveland Park. Members of the Task Force have not been shy about sharing their pro-development agendas and undermining historic preservation in Cleveland Park for years. People whose views differ volunteered for the Task Force and were rejected. The folks behind the gerrymandering don’t like the opinions held by many of the voters who live in homes between Wisconsin and Connecticut so their solution is to cut half of them out of having any say about what happens in Cleveland Park below Reno Toad/34th St. It doesn’t seem to bother the Task Force members that citizens being cut out send their kids to the public school on 34th St and will no longer have an ANC rep who has a vote over what happens at the school, or the traffic surrounding the school. (The Task Force member who lives in Cleveland Park sends his kids to private school). The Cleveland Park citizens being cut out rely on the fire station and Metro on Connecticut Ave and frequent the stores and restaurants in Connecticut Ave. The Task Force is severing a long established and cohesive neighborhood for their own selfish political agenda. Sheer stupidity.


And greed. The principal architect of the gerrymandering, Mr Ward, has worked for clients like the Trump campaign, Paul Manafort, JUUL, the ex-President who fled to Russia during the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, etc. His website states that he creates advocacy groups and develops public strategies on behalf of his clients. He formed Cleveland Park Smart Growth (unincorporated and does not disclose its finances) which supports candidates, including himself and one of the other task force members for the ANC and Beau Finley for Council. Shaping electoral districts that are more likely will elect pro-Smart Growth candidates to the ANC (given “great weight” under DC law in planning, zoning and historic preservation decisions) is a huge win for undisclosed development interests in Ward 3.


Wow, talk about deranged. You are just making up a grab bag of stuff to smear someone who has a relatively minor local zoning quibble with you. Are you OK in the head? I can suggest some good people if you need to talk to somebody/get deprogramming help. We are there for you.


It does seem kinda weird that a guy who shows up multiple times in the Senate Intel and Mueller reports for his activities involving Ukraine and Russia would be appointed by Cheh to such a position of influence.


cite?


See Volume 5 (Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities) of the Unclassified Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate, on Russian Active Measures, Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election (pages 121-128), which describes his work as part of Fabrizio Ward, LLC with Paul Manafort (then under Federal indictment) and Konstantin Kilimnik (identified by the Senate committee as a Russian intelligence agent) in Ukraine.



In proper blue book format please


Ask law Prof Cheh. She would know the right citation form. The question is, what is worse for her? That she/her staff failed to conduct due diligence on Ward’s background, or that they did and she appointed him anyway?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 19:46     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


OMG, it is readily available. The only difference is one SMD is flipped to a different commission.


No, there were other adjustments referenced by Cheh. But more than 24 hours after “passage,” where is Mary’s map?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 19:46     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


OMG, it is readily available. The only difference is one SMD is flipped to a different commission.

So the final map is not readily available then.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 19:44     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


OMG, it is readily available. The only difference is one SMD is flipped to a different commission.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 19:34     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of 34th Street is within ANC 3C. It is not split between commissions.


Good to hear. Where is the boundary between 3C and 3A? Can anyone link to the final map?

Keep asking. They cannot provide it.


It is the same map that was posted last week except woodland-normanstone is moved to 3C

This person is confirming that there is not a map of the new boundaries.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 18:59     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s blatant gerrymandering to cut out the voices- voters and ANC reps - who are interested in more reasonable growth in Cleveland Park. Members of the Task Force have not been shy about sharing their pro-development agendas and undermining historic preservation in Cleveland Park for years. People whose views differ volunteered for the Task Force and were rejected. The folks behind the gerrymandering don’t like the opinions held by many of the voters who live in homes between Wisconsin and Connecticut so their solution is to cut half of them out of having any say about what happens in Cleveland Park below Reno Toad/34th St. It doesn’t seem to bother the Task Force members that citizens being cut out send their kids to the public school on 34th St and will no longer have an ANC rep who has a vote over what happens at the school, or the traffic surrounding the school. (The Task Force member who lives in Cleveland Park sends his kids to private school). The Cleveland Park citizens being cut out rely on the fire station and Metro on Connecticut Ave and frequent the stores and restaurants in Connecticut Ave. The Task Force is severing a long established and cohesive neighborhood for their own selfish political agenda. Sheer stupidity.


And greed. The principal architect of the gerrymandering, Mr Ward, has worked for clients like the Trump campaign, Paul Manafort, JUUL, the ex-President who fled to Russia during the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, etc. His website states that he creates advocacy groups and develops public strategies on behalf of his clients. He formed Cleveland Park Smart Growth (unincorporated and does not disclose its finances) which supports candidates, including himself and one of the other task force members for the ANC and Beau Finley for Council. Shaping electoral districts that are more likely will elect pro-Smart Growth candidates to the ANC (given “great weight” under DC law in planning, zoning and historic preservation decisions) is a huge win for undisclosed development interests in Ward 3.


Wow, talk about deranged. You are just making up a grab bag of stuff to smear someone who has a relatively minor local zoning quibble with you. Are you OK in the head? I can suggest some good people if you need to talk to somebody/get deprogramming help. We are there for you.


It does seem kinda weird that a guy who shows up multiple times in the Senate Intel and Mueller reports for his activities involving Ukraine and Russia would be appointed by Cheh to such a position of influence.


cite?


See Volume 5 (Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities) of the Unclassified Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate, on Russian Active Measures, Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election (pages 121-128), which describes his work as part of Fabrizio Ward, LLC with Paul Manafort (then under Federal indictment) and Konstantin Kilimnik (identified by the Senate committee as a Russian intelligence agent) in Ukraine.



In proper blue book format please