Anonymous wrote:Anyone else dying for a skating show featuring Jason Brown, Keegan Messing, Donovan Carrillo and Adam Siao Him Fa?

Yes, I love Donovan Carrillo, too!

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

+1,000

If anything Jason is underscored. As a former skater I have to say that aside from the jumps what Jason does is harder then what everyone else is doing. No one else has his edge quality or his mastery of the blade. We are just in a world now where jumps are so heavily valued and the sport is off balance.

"Aside from the hardest thing to do in his discipline, which he doesn't do, he does very hard things."

This very much has the feel of, "So, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

You can tell who the real skating fans are and who the Olympics-only crowd is. What you’re saying is that the only measure of a good tennis player is his serve, or the only measure of a good golfer is her putting.

Yes, the jumps are the hardest technical element. But that doesn't mean they are the only important elements. Spins, footwork, choreography/artistic expression. All these come together to make a program. That’s why they are all required elements. You literally have to have footwork, spins and choreography to qualify for the free skate. You get that, right?

Thankfully, Jason is not the only artistic skater out there, but man, he is a master of footwork, artistry, flexibility, spins, it's ALL there. And...jumps, too! No, he doesn't have a quad. That's undeniable. And I recognize that he shouldn't be ranked higher than the skaters who DO have quads AND artistry. But what's sad to me is that there are several skaters out there who have quads *and not much else* who place higher than Jason. But luckily, the podium this year had a good mixture of quads AND skating skills. My goodness, Kagiyama was absolutely stunning to watch. Kagiyama FELT the music, and that gave power to his jumps. And obviously Chen is the full package.

What makes Jason's jumps special, in my mind, is how they naturally flow in and out of choreography. With almost every other male skater, it's such a long and obvious setup: also known as "telegraphing" your jumps. Jason is unmatched with jumps coming as a natural extension of the music. That is why the judges reward him: it's not just jumps, he's the whole package. He didn't deserve the podium this time around. But he deserved to represent USA at the Olympics. And he sure did belong in that final group, and his performances are timeless and masterful.

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

+1,000

If anything Jason is underscored. As a former skater I have to say that aside from the jumps what Jason does is harder then what everyone else is doing. No one else has his edge quality or his mastery of the blade. We are just in a world now where jumps are so heavily valued and the sport is off balance.

"Aside from the hardest thing to do in his discipline, which he doesn't do, he does very hard things."

This very much has the feel of, "So, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else dying for a skating show featuring Jason Brown, Keegan Messing, Donovan Carrillo and Adam Siao Him Fa?

I thought the same thing last night! They should form the skating equivalent of a boy band. Their performances are so much fun!

Anyone else dying for a skating show featuring Jason Brown, Keegan Messing, Donovan Carrillo and Adam Siao Him Fa?

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

I LOVED watching Jason Brown. I'd watch that over and over again.

I couldn't stay up late enough to watch Chen but so glad he won!

Chloe Kim was amazing on the half-pipe as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

Jason is by far the most artistic skater out there. He may not be faster, higher, stronger with jumps, but he 100% lives up to that motto with artistry. [b]

Yuzaru Hanyu is great, but his PCS shouldn’t top Jason when he had falls that took you out of the program. [b]Granted, he got right back into it way better than Cha.

Nathan is amazing and I am so glad he won and it was well deserved. However, this and the short program were the first time I’ve ever seen true emotion in his skating. Jason exudes it all the time.

Ilia has a bright future ahead of him. I wish he could have taken his place, but I am so glad that Jason had this amazing olympic moment.

Hanyu did NOT receive higher PCS than Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

+1,000

If anything Jason is underscored. As a former skater I have to say that aside from the jumps what Jason does is harder then what everyone else is doing. No one else has his edge quality or his mastery of the blade. We are just in a world now where jumps are so heavily valued and the sport is off balance.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

+1,000

If anything Jason is underscored. As a former skater I have to say that aside from the jumps what Jason does is harder then what everyone else is doing. No one else has his edge quality or his mastery of the blade. We are just in a world now where jumps are so heavily valued and the sport is off balance.

Anonymous wrote:so, someone said that Gu had plastic surgery

curious what she looked like before - anyone?

There's no evidence that she's gotten surgery. PP, do you have a source?

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

+1,000

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Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

Jason is by far the most artistic skater out there. He may not be faster, higher, stronger with jumps, but he 100% lives up to that motto with artistry.

Yuzaru Hanyu is great, but his PCS shouldn’t top Jason when he had falls that took you out of the program. Granted, he got right back into it way better than Cha.

Nathan is amazing and I am so glad he won and it was well deserved. However, this and the short program were the first time I’ve ever seen true emotion in his skating. Jason exudes it all the time.

Ilia has a bright future ahead of him. I wish he could have taken his place, but I am so glad that Jason had this amazing olympic moment.

Anonymous wrote:Figure skater Jason Brown is a beautiful skater. Stick to triples. I’d rather watch a well executed, perfect routine with no wobbles, falls, etc. Tired of all the Quadruple stuff that rarely come off smoothly.

That’s what Stars on Ice is for, but the Olympics is meant to push the limits of what is possible. Faster, higher, stronger. Jason is a great skater but he is not the most artistic. I feel his scores reflect fondness for him, but I would have much rather seen Ilia compete at the Olympics.

Nathan Chen kicked ass! Props to him.