Anonymous wrote:Just putting this out there so we can put the whole ANTIFA thing to bed as it relates to Portland.
'Indeed, representatives from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Portland said last August that there was no evidence that the protesters that were arrested during the demonstrations had links to ANTIFA or other violent anti-fascist groups'.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
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This is what actual investigative media does.
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And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
No. -2. How do we know he wasn't there to cause trouble? People infiltrating protest groups to cause trouble happens quite a bit more than people realize, for example the Boogaloo Bois who have repeatedly been caught for arson, vandalism, violence, molotov cocktails, ambush attacks on police officers and attacks on police departments under the guise of "BLM/Antifa" - with notorious examples being the "Umbrella Man" in Minneapolis but also arrests in a half dozen other cities. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
Also, Andy Ngo has previously been exposed for having rather cozy relationships with Proud Boys and other violent far right extremists and domestic terrorist (whom he does NOT do "investigative journalism" against) https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/
He sounds like a self-hating person, who supports white supremacists. One of the "good Jews," so to speak.
No, he doesn't. He sounds like a person who thinks for himself. A rarity these days.
Read the twitter thread posted. He doesn’t “think for himself,” he’s a liar and an agitator.
Sure. Because everyone would read the thread the same way. That's exactly what someone who thinks for themselves would say.![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
No. -2. How do we know he wasn't there to cause trouble? People infiltrating protest groups to cause trouble happens quite a bit more than people realize, for example the Boogaloo Bois who have repeatedly been caught for arson, vandalism, violence, molotov cocktails, ambush attacks on police officers and attacks on police departments under the guise of "BLM/Antifa" - with notorious examples being the "Umbrella Man" in Minneapolis but also arrests in a half dozen other cities. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
Also, Andy Ngo has previously been exposed for having rather cozy relationships with Proud Boys and other violent far right extremists and domestic terrorist (whom he does NOT do "investigative journalism" against) https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/
He sounds like a self-hating person, who supports white supremacists. One of the "good Jews," so to speak.
No, he doesn't. He sounds like a person who thinks for himself. A rarity these days.
Read the twitter thread posted. He doesn’t “think for himself,” he’s a liar and an agitator.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
No. -2. How do we know he wasn't there to cause trouble? People infiltrating protest groups to cause trouble happens quite a bit more than people realize, for example the Boogaloo Bois who have repeatedly been caught for arson, vandalism, violence, molotov cocktails, ambush attacks on police officers and attacks on police departments under the guise of "BLM/Antifa" - with notorious examples being the "Umbrella Man" in Minneapolis but also arrests in a half dozen other cities. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
Also, Andy Ngo has previously been exposed for having rather cozy relationships with Proud Boys and other violent far right extremists and domestic terrorist (whom he does NOT do "investigative journalism" against) https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/
He sounds like a self-hating person, who supports white supremacists. One of the "good Jews," so to speak.
No, he doesn't. He sounds like a person who thinks for himself. A rarity these days.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
No. -2. How do we know he wasn't there to cause trouble? People infiltrating protest groups to cause trouble happens quite a bit more than people realize, for example the Boogaloo Bois who have repeatedly been caught for arson, vandalism, violence, molotov cocktails, ambush attacks on police officers and attacks on police departments under the guise of "BLM/Antifa" - with notorious examples being the "Umbrella Man" in Minneapolis but also arrests in a half dozen other cities. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
Also, Andy Ngo has previously been exposed for having rather cozy relationships with Proud Boys and other violent far right extremists and domestic terrorist (whom he does NOT do "investigative journalism" against) https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/
He sounds like a self-hating person, who supports white supremacists. One of the "good Jews," so to speak.
.You weren't there either and you have no evidence, so knock it off.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
You weren't there, so you don't know what he did or didn't do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
No. -2. How do we know he wasn't there to cause trouble? People infiltrating protest groups to cause trouble happens quite a bit more than people realize, for example the Boogaloo Bois who have repeatedly been caught for arson, vandalism, violence, molotov cocktails, ambush attacks on police officers and attacks on police departments under the guise of "BLM/Antifa" - with notorious examples being the "Umbrella Man" in Minneapolis but also arrests in a half dozen other cities. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
Also, Andy Ngo has previously been exposed for having rather cozy relationships with Proud Boys and other violent far right extremists and domestic terrorist (whom he does NOT do "investigative journalism" against) https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was probably trying to blend in while documenting what antifa and BLM were up to. Do you have a (credible) source stating otherwise?
+1
This is what actual investigative media does.
+2
And note - he wasn’t setting anything on fire or destroying government buildings and businesses. He was there to document those who do. Good for him.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It means we don't know who assaulted Ngo, anarchists or someone else. But now at least you admit that the anarchists are not antifa- they are their own beast that are neither left nor right.
I admitted no such thing, liar. Antifa may be used interchangeably with anarchists as far as I can see. It's not like these people issue membership cards. Ideologically, anarchists seem to be on the left, and I don't see why any would be a problem for you, unless you are an anarchist apologist, and you wouldn't be that, would you?
Whoever is doing that would be wildly inaccurate. Anarchists are anarchists. They are different people and ideology than ANTIFA. How about we start using language with accuracy?
Language with accuracy? That's a joke, when Ngo gets called every name in the book, except "journalist" because, you know, reasons. So I will call them what I damn well please, and you will just have to sputter and fume about how "wrong" I am. If those people don't like what I call them, they can hire a PR rep to announce their preferred appelation and trademark their symbol. Sounds like you are angling for tbe job.
You are conflaging different groups with different ideologies only making you look like a fool.
Nope. It doesn't. They are close enough that we don't need to check their non-existent membership cards to understand them. The important point is that they committed a crime and should be in jail.
Yes, I agree criminals belong in jail. It's too bad most of the GOP doesn't agree.
Do you think the people who beat Ngo belong in jail? Yes or No.
Yes, they deserve to be charged and have a day in court. Do you believe the same is true for all the people who funded, planned and executed the 1/6 insurrection?
Here's the difference.....
Those who attacked Ngo have not been arrested, are not being held and are not going to trial.
And, many in Portland who come out, night after night, trying to set the Federal Courthouse on fire - IF they are arrested, are released a few hours later.
Those who entered the Capitol on 1/6 have been arrested, many are STILL being held despite the fact that their crimes were nonviolent, and they will eventually have a day in court.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It means we don't know who assaulted Ngo, anarchists or someone else. But now at least you admit that the anarchists are not antifa- they are their own beast that are neither left nor right.
I admitted no such thing, liar. Antifa may be used interchangeably with anarchists as far as I can see. It's not like these people issue membership cards. Ideologically, anarchists seem to be on the left, and I don't see why any would be a problem for you, unless you are an anarchist apologist, and you wouldn't be that, would you?
Whoever is doing that would be wildly inaccurate. Anarchists are anarchists. They are different people and ideology than ANTIFA. How about we start using language with accuracy?
Language with accuracy? That's a joke, when Ngo gets called every name in the book, except "journalist" because, you know, reasons. So I will call them what I damn well please, and you will just have to sputter and fume about how "wrong" I am. If those people don't like what I call them, they can hire a PR rep to announce their preferred appelation and trademark their symbol. Sounds like you are angling for tbe job.
You are conflaging different groups with different ideologies only making you look like a fool.
Nope. It doesn't. They are close enough that we don't need to check their non-existent membership cards to understand them. The important point is that they committed a crime and should be in jail.
Yes, I agree criminals belong in jail. It's too bad most of the GOP doesn't agree.
Do you think the people who beat Ngo belong in jail? Yes or No.
Yes, they deserve to be charged and have a day in court. Do you believe the same is true for all the people who funded, planned and executed the 1/6 insurrection?
Here's the difference.....
Those who attacked Ngo have not been arrested, are not being held and are not going to trial.
And, many in Portland who come out, night after night, trying to set the Federal Courthouse on fire - IF they are arrested, are released a few hours later.
Those who entered the Capitol on 1/6 have been arrested, many are STILL being held despite the fact that their crimes were nonviolent, and they will eventually have a day in court.