Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 11:29     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Swim season is earlier in the south and I know people having their last meets this week just as we are getting started. Regular full capacity meets and I don’t hear major outbreaks or people dropping dead from swim meets.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 21:17     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.


Then you do you. But, yes, I am willing to risk it. That’s the trade off I’m willing to make.


Yes, all four of my kids got COVID in February. They had no symptoms and were only tested due to travel. They were totally fine. Quarantine was worth than the disease. We’ve assessed the risk. There is virtually none. Their mental and physical health is more important.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:35     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.


Then you do you. But, yes, I am willing to risk it. That’s the trade off I’m willing to make.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:07     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
BTW northern Virginia swim teams aren’t the only events happening in large groups. There are other things happening, maskless, outside and inside!

Guess we will see how it shakes out if cases rise in the next month. Or they won’t.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 18:36     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


On our team they aren’t supposed to. We don’t have that rule and all are fine with it. We have a few that choose to mask anyway. Again, this is a problem with these area and Virginia because kids were living this normal life last summer elsewhere. And didn’t necessarily get covid.

And people are pointing out that the cases are low but also a sick person would have to be at any of these swim meets at any given day and spread it and there is no guarantee of either scenario.

It seems that the people have decided how to still keep their kids at low risk so that’s what is important.


NVSL rules are that sub-11 year olds should mask when not swimming and when distance isn’t possible. Are you at an NVSL pool?


Yup. And so far our A meet and large B meet last night was maskless.


yes- I think everyone has taken 'should' as a suggestion- not a mandate- given that 'must' was specifically and definitely voted down. I actually think it was fairly nervy of the NVSL exec board to write 'should' given the vote on 'must.' There is more and more evidence emerging that the mask mandates and distancing rqmts are causing sig trauma to kids. This is a weighing of risk situation. With 1) outdoor settings; 2) less than 1 in 100,000 cases in the area- I am opting for mental health. Anyone else can weigh that risk differently- but all of the COVID restrictions and paranoia do have actual costs.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 18:36     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.


That was me. Your kids can do sports and can choose to mask, but don’t expect other kids to mask or distance. As parents, we have made risk-benefit analysis for our own kids. Normal summer with cheering, tackling friends, hugs, etc is more important than the tiny, almost non-existent risk they get Covid outside with almost zero community spread. Leagues - in many sports - do not require masks. Participate or don’t.


This is me again. Go for it. Don’t expect other kids to take on your risk assessment; don’t expect all kids to embrace yours knowing how you throw caution to the wind. Expect a little judgement tossed your way because other kids don’t need to take on your risks, and they damn well can participate in the safest way they know how. Who are you to dictate how others participate? I never said others needed to mask; I said my own kids mask or distance.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:53     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


On our team they aren’t supposed to. We don’t have that rule and all are fine with it. We have a few that choose to mask anyway. Again, this is a problem with these area and Virginia because kids were living this normal life last summer elsewhere. And didn’t necessarily get covid.

And people are pointing out that the cases are low but also a sick person would have to be at any of these swim meets at any given day and spread it and there is no guarantee of either scenario.

It seems that the people have decided how to still keep their kids at low risk so that’s what is important.


NVSL rules are that sub-11 year olds should mask when not swimming and when distance isn’t possible. Are you at an NVSL pool?


Yup. And so far our A meet and large B meet last night was maskless.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:50     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


It isn’t a recipe for a disaster. It follows science and what most of the country is doing.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:49     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.


That was me. Your kids can do sports and can choose to mask, but don’t expect other kids to mask or distance. As parents, we have made risk-benefit analysis for our own kids. Normal summer with cheering, tackling friends, hugs, etc is more important than the tiny, almost non-existent risk they get Covid outside with almost zero community spread. Leagues - in many sports - do not require masks. Participate or don’t.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:08     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Being outside is not some sort of magic shield if the kids are on top of each other. 3 feet is fine. Hell, even 2 feet is probably fine outside. But at least at our meet, it was 6-12 inches and that was a little too close for comfort. Our team also doesn’t require 12+ to mask and I don’t really know if all of them rushed right out to get vaccinated - so they are still also at risk (and a population more likely to transmit). Idk, my children love to swim, so we make it work, but it’s not “normal”, at least for us.


Our team does not require any swimmers to mask and almost none do. They are on top of each other for hours. It is normal! And that is what is so amazing about it! Kids are so happy to be with their friends. The cases of covid are extremely low, outside transmission is rare and Covid risk to most kids is low. They are in dugouts, playing basketball and on soccer sidelines without masks now, too. Your kids can choose to wear masks, but if they want to continue in sports you should get used to other kids not wearing masks.


It’s going to take a long time for this paranoid area to move on. I get it. But the reality is that, good or bad, children in other parts of this country were living like this LAST summer. Kids in this area, particularly in public school, were punished for longer than others and its now time to let them have life back for now.


agreeeeeee and people still want to punish our kids. Move on.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:08     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


On our team they aren’t supposed to. We don’t have that rule and all are fine with it. We have a few that choose to mask anyway. Again, this is a problem with these area and Virginia because kids were living this normal life last summer elsewhere. And didn’t necessarily get covid.

And people are pointing out that the cases are low but also a sick person would have to be at any of these swim meets at any given day and spread it and there is no guarantee of either scenario.

It seems that the people have decided how to still keep their kids at low risk so that’s what is important.


NVSL rules are that sub-11 year olds should mask when not swimming and when distance isn’t possible. Are you at an NVSL pool?


"should" is a suggestion.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:06     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


On our team they aren’t supposed to. We don’t have that rule and all are fine with it. We have a few that choose to mask anyway. Again, this is a problem with these area and Virginia because kids were living this normal life last summer elsewhere. And didn’t necessarily get covid.

And people are pointing out that the cases are low but also a sick person would have to be at any of these swim meets at any given day and spread it and there is no guarantee of either scenario.

It seems that the people have decided how to still keep their kids at low risk so that’s what is important.


NVSL rules are that sub-11 year olds should mask when not swimming and when distance isn’t possible. Are you at an NVSL pool?
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 16:52     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.


On our team they aren’t supposed to. We don’t have that rule and all are fine with it. We have a few that choose to mask anyway. Again, this is a problem with these area and Virginia because kids were living this normal life last summer elsewhere. And didn’t necessarily get covid.

And people are pointing out that the cases are low but also a sick person would have to be at any of these swim meets at any given day and spread it and there is no guarantee of either scenario.

It seems that the people have decided how to still keep their kids at low risk so that’s what is important.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 16:42     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
This entire 28 page thread started bc no adults wanted to mask, and now they don’t. But the upshot of the new guidance is that no 12+ year old has to mask (and none do - even though we know well that not all 12+ year olds are even close to fully vaccinated) and unvaccinated kids are just supposed to mask, but it’s not required. That is a recipe for disaster. It is really weird to me how this thread has veered off the rails.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 15:24     Subject: Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?
Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.



I am going to repeat what the PP wrote in response: in this area, for every 100,000 people there is .4 cases. e.g. in a crowd of 200,000 people, you might have 1 person who has covid. It is time to move on.