Anonymous
09/08/2021 14:32
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.
Um....
You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.
Pot meet kettle
“Destroying my life” is far more hyperbolic than “horrible weeks in the ICU”. You are definitely appealing to emotion.
-DP
Anonymous
09/08/2021 14:26
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.
Um....
You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.
NP, but…where do you live??? We are in NoVA. Oldest DD just started Kindergarten fully in person. Younger DD is in daycare, which reopened over a year ago. We aren’t flying anywhere, but we visit local family any time we want (indoors, unmasked), spent lots of time at the pool this summer, have gone to several amusement parks and the zoo, took a lovely beach vacation, and basically are living our lives normally. I don’t get why you think your life has been destroyed. Care to explain what you can no longer do?
Anonymous
09/08/2021 11:20
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.
Um....
You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 22:28
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.
Um....
Anonymous
09/07/2021 22:24
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 21:07
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 21:01
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
ok I got COVID after being vaccinated and also measured my antibodies a month after second dose and a month after infection. The infection produced more than 40x as many antibodies against spike protein as did the vaccine.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:46
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:35
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:
No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.
I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.
There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.
Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve
“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade
It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:27
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Stay in your basement while we live our lives.
What lives? Schools are still closed, shops are going out of business, and there are more masks than there were a year ago.
My school is open.
Some shops went out of business, true. Plenty of retail left.
Definitely not more masks than a year ago.
We are maybe back to 80 percent of our lives? No big parties. But we done out weekly, go shopping, to movie, amusement parks, etc.
Weird, you don't know of Randi Weingarten's promise to close schools this winter? Or that masks are still required on planes and Uber? Or that NYC has implemented vaccine passports?
I guess if your little world is ok, that's all that matters.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:17
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Stay in your basement while we live our lives.
What lives? Schools are still closed, shops are going out of business, and there are more masks than there were a year ago.
My school is open.
Some shops went out of business, true. Plenty of retail left.
Definitely not more masks than a year ago.
We are maybe back to 80 percent of our lives? No big parties. But we done out weekly, go shopping, to movie, amusement parks, etc.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:17
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Weird, I hate it when I'm right about stuff like this.
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:17
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Stay in your basement while we live our lives.
What lives? Schools are still closed, shops are going out of business, and there are more masks than there were a year ago.
Are you posting from 2020?
Are you unaware of Biden's upcoming six-pronged approach to stop the spread of Delta?
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:16
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Hilarious that these people though the vaccine would be the end of restrictions.
Which restrictions?
Erm...have you been on a plane lately?
Anonymous
09/07/2021 20:15
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.
It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.
Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.
Boom! I love when I am right.
Stay in your basement while we live our lives.
What lives? Schools are still closed, shops are going out of business, and there are more masks than there were a year ago.
Are you posting from 2020?