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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

I don't think people have a problem with those 4 players. All good players and very nice families.

I don't think there is a desire to play with those 4 or any envy either, if so, girls would move over to MU.

I do believe MU is in terrible shape right now. But they do have a good foundation of players and a few good coaches. Let's hope they build on that and become great.

Agree! Lots of underestimation and negative assumptions toward MU (Mighty Underducks) I hope they do well and have a great season!

under Ducks?

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

I don't think people have a problem with those 4 players. All good players and very nice families.

I don't think there is a desire to play with those 4 or any envy either, if so, girls would move over to MU.

I do believe MU is in terrible shape right now. But they do have a good foundation of players and a few good coaches. Let's hope they build on that and become great.

Agree! Lots of underestimation and negative assumptions toward MU (Mighty Underducks) I hope they do well and have a great season!

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

I don't think people have a problem with those 4 players. All good players and very nice families.

I don't think there is a desire to play with those 4 or any envy either, if so, girls would move over to MU.

I do believe MU is in terrible shape right now. But they do have a good foundation of players and a few good coaches. Let's hope they build on that and become great.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.

If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.

To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.

You think they aren’t there yet. And on the face of that I agree simply because they weren’t picked. But there is more to those stories as well.

And knowing 05 players from other clubs I’m sorry do not believe they could just switch out and things at MU would be the same or better.

But describe the things those players are lacking. Because otherwise its all subjective. Using these kids in this discussion in my opinion would help me and others understand all this back and forth. We have considered both clubs and honestly see some of the MU players have to pull of miracles just to get the ball forward at time. Curious is all. Where as yes the FCV kids can simply focus on simple play but then how does one learn to be more dynamic or problem solve when things go south? Not saying things going south all the time is a good thing. Just trying to understand what the actual priorities in this area are.

Not PP, but you sound like sour grapes here AND the parent of one of them.

If you feel that strongly that you are doing the right thing with your DD, then good on you.

Anonymous wrote:DP here. I don't know these players, but it sure looks like they lack stability and patience. They left McLean for MU/Spirit last year. Not a big deal. This year, these players were ready to jump the ship again, but FCV did not take them. McLean got better without them. Their best option is to stop looking for greener pastures, stay with the MU, be humble, try to improve their individual game and help their current team to get better.

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Anonymous wrote:Rankings are worthless. Just ask FCV U19's who need plane tickets home from CA now.

Did Bobby tweet about it yet.

If you listen to their parents, they were the best youth soccer team ever.

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are worthless. Just ask FCV U19's who need plane tickets home from CA now.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.

If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.

To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.

You think they aren’t there yet. And on the face of that I agree simply because they weren’t picked. But there is more to those stories as well.

And knowing 05 players from other clubs I’m sorry do not believe they could just switch out and things at MU would be the same or better.

But describe the things those players are lacking. Because otherwise its all subjective. Using these kids in this discussion in my opinion would help me and others understand all this back and forth. We have considered both clubs and honestly see some of the MU players have to pull of miracles just to get the ball forward at time. Curious is all. Where as yes the FCV kids can simply focus on simple play but then how does one learn to be more dynamic or problem solve when things go south? Not saying things going south all the time is a good thing. Just trying to understand what the actual priorities in this area are.

Anonymous wrote:DP here. I don't know these players, but it sure looks like they lack stability and patience. They left McLean for MU/Spirit last year. Not a big deal. This year, these players were ready to jump the ship again, but FCV did not take them. McLean got better without them. Their best option is to stop looking for greener pastures, stay with the MU, be humble, try to improve their individual game and help their current team to get better.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.

If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.

To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.

If you are playing 20 minutes a game at what age does playing minutes begin to actually matter then? Asking for a friend. At what age is PLAYING soccer more rewarding than just a training environment?

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.

If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.

To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord. Someone is comparing a scrimmage result to a league game.

They are in different leagues, dumbo. So there are no head to head league games.

That’s the point. VDA guy is treating a scrimmage result like it’s an ECNL or DA game. Stupid.

A game that doesnt count for league standings means nothing
A game that counts for league standings means everything

Yet, the players played both games the same way.

Question: if FCV 05 plays MU 05 in a friendly and beats them 10-0. Is it an indicator of anything?

Question. Is there a reason people are so steamed up about Metro 05? Because from what I can tell there are three players from Mcelan 05 ecnl, one player from ODFC/FCV on that team and those seem to be kids people have problems with. And to be honest if your teams are all that superior why care so greatly for those four players. Or is there something I'm missing?

MU 05 dad brings up fcv losing to pda and vda losing to mu all the time. Any mention of either team (both are miles ahead of mu 05) is met with those 2 games. Scrimmages and showcase games don’t matter if mu loses but they are a World Cup final if they win. Just scroll though this thread and see how many times he mentions it.

If anything wouldn’t that speak to the ability of a few to pull up others that aren’t quite there yet. Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? In other words FCV VDA MCLEAN etc may be stronger top to bottom but how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out, develop themselves while having the work load they have and beat teams in the spring they lost to and pull closer against other teams. How many kid would just check out? Because all I see ishow those kids this and those kids that, loss loss loss were better etc, but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Just curious why that is.

To answer your questions: Wouldn’t the workload be higher for those kids at MU? Yes
With that being the case which kids could switch places with those four or so players and still be successful? All of FCV, 3 VDA players, 2-3 McLean players
how many of those players could win one game in the fall and continue to stick it out All could, but choose to put themselves in better situations. 3 of the 4 at MU had a tryout at FCV and were not offered or offered PT.
How many kid would just check out? Complete speculation for any answer, but many, even the current MU players. That is why the losses get out of hand sometimes. Similar to FCV's loss to PDA. Checked out.

but if we’re all honest individually, people don’t have that conversation about players. All 4 are very good players, 3 of 4 attempted to get on the FCV roster. They just are not quite there yet. And I stress yet. All these are kids and are not done developing and growing.

Just teams as if playing a higher level players than your kid will help your kid get into the same rooms as the better players will at the end of all this. Here is the key IMO. Playing against higher level players, faster, stronger, more technically proficient, more tactically proficient forces everyone around them to play better, faster. Iron sharpens Iron so to speak. Unfortunately for those 4, they'd be better off practicing several times per week with FCV level players than the current team they end up playing against. Many do this because of game time minutes, which are NOT important at this age; other do it for other reasons. The number of quality touches you get in a game are minimal compared to what a player will receive in a high quality, high intensity practice with 18 solid players vice 4.