Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:19
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:
I'm LOL, and I never do that.
"Photoshop was involved to make nonathletic kids appear athletic
Some cases involved Photoshopping pictures of kids playing sports that they did not play. For example, one parent “e-mailed CW-1 a photograph of his son purporting to play water polo, with his right arm and upper torso exposed above the water line. In the e-mail, Sloane asked, ‘Does this work??’ CW-1 responded: ‘Yes but a little high out of the water-no one gets that high.’”"
This is my favorite detail as well. I wish we had the original photoshop picture!
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:19
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:Wondering if this is the tip of the iceberg
DOJ said the investigation is continuing.
Singer is pleading guilty. He may well decide to cooperate with the prosecutors and offer up more participants in hopes of a lighter sentence. But given that they have electronic records of all kind, and the investigation has been open for a year and involved 300 (!!) FBI agents, I assume that all the obvious cases are known.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:19
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone explain this to me:
Once these students were admitted, how were they supposed to keep up with their coursework? Were the parents planning to bribe the professors or administrators? Did Singer continue to facilitate bribes after enrollment? What would the endgame be?
This is what I'm wondering. It's one thing to bribe your kid's way in to college, but how did they actually expect them to graduate?
It doesn't matter if they graduate, but even attending for a year or so is a decent credential while they try to figure out what to do with their lives.
It's also harder to get into some of these schools than graduate. They can also easily afford a 5-year plan, so there is time to re-take classes etc.
I went to Stanford. Believe me, there were complete idiots who managed to graduate just by picking an easy major.
And by paying people like me to do their work for them. I attended two whole classes in my time at my university as another student. They were both from wealthy families and terrible at math. My university didn't make you show ID for any tests (and still doesn't, from what I hear), you just had to write your student number on your test. The key was to stick to the larger lecture courses with 100+ students where you could just blend in. I know someone who pretended to be another student in the lab portion of a biology course with only 35 other students. Just thinking about doing that would make me anxious.
Trust me, cheating is still rampant in college.
Congrats for being a scumbag.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:18
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
I guess I don’t understand why these people had to bribe their way into universities. If they have that much money and the contacts to go with it, then does it really matter where these kids attend college? Lori Laughlin’s daughter would follow the same career path (influencer or whatever) whether she attends ASU or USC. Let’s not pretend that where these kids go to college really matters because they’re set for life no matter what. How was this worth risking their reputations and getting into legal trouble? The risk truly wasn’t worth the reward. Is it for the parents’ bragging purposes? What was the point?
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:17
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
How many students were able to make it into these schools over the years?
"We don't know the total number... this is still ongoing. So the 33 parents who we have charged, their children were able to get in somewhere. There are more than that but I'm not prepared to give you a total."
"We don't know the total number... this is still ongoing. So the 33 parents who we have charged, their children were able to get in somewhere. There are more than that but I'm not prepared to give you a total."
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:16
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the kids will get to stay.
They didn't do anything illegal.
Doesn’t matter whether they knew or not....if they were admitted fraudulently they should be expelled.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:15
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone explain this to me:
Once these students were admitted, how were they supposed to keep up with their coursework? Were the parents planning to bribe the professors or administrators? Did Singer continue to facilitate bribes after enrollment? What would the endgame be?
This is what I'm wondering. It's one thing to bribe your kid's way in to college, but how did they actually expect them to graduate?
It doesn't matter if they graduate, but even attending for a year or so is a decent credential while they try to figure out what to do with their lives.
It's also harder to get into some of these schools than graduate. They can also easily afford a 5-year plan, so there is time to re-take classes etc.
I went to Stanford. Believe me, there were complete idiots who managed to graduate just by picking an easy major.
And by paying people like me to do their work for them. I attended two whole classes in my time at my university as another student. They were both from wealthy families and terrible at math. My university didn't make you show ID for any tests (and still doesn't, from what I hear), you just had to write your student number on your test. The key was to stick to the larger lecture courses with 100+ students where you could just blend in. I know someone who pretended to be another student in the lab portion of a biology course with only 35 other students. Just thinking about doing that would make me anxious.
Trust me, cheating is still rampant in college.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:15
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the kids will get to stay.
They didn't do anything illegal.
They submitted false college applications. Listing sports they didn't play.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:14
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will happen to the kids of the cheaters?
They'll be mercifully adopted by Teri Hatcher.
Or Bob Saget.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:13
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Wondering if this is the tip of the iceberg
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:13
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
I'm sure the kids will get to stay.
They didn't do anything illegal.
They didn't do anything illegal.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:13
Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think these parents knew the indictment was coming down today?
Probably. I worked with someone who was indicted for embezzlement. She knew the morning the indictment was going to be unsealed, skipped work, and let a few select coworkers know. Her lawyer made arrangements for her to turn herself in so there was no need for an arrest or handcuffs.
I doubt it - maybe some of them. But Huffman for one, was picked up at her home by the FBI and put into handcuffs. Arraignment for 30+ are happening today.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:13
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:It seems the Asians are the only ones who are actually relying on merit to get into elite colleges.
Because it does not work.... the odds are not with you
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:13
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:What will happen to the kids of the cheaters?
They'll be mercifully adopted by Teri Hatcher.
Anonymous
03/12/2019 15:12
Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot
Anonymous wrote:So does anyone think any of these parents will actually serve jail time? I doubt it. The mastermind will, and I assume some of the coaches will as well.
The tax fraud piece of this may be the killer.