Anonymous wrote:And how often does that happen? Please, tell us!!!!

Find us a few dozen examples ... no, wait, a HALF dozen... examples of where people lawfully carrying a weapon with a permit shot a bystander by accident while engaged in a fight with a criminal assailant.

You have so many nullifying clauses its unreal. Show me THIS but only with THAT under THOSE and next to THIS.

And how often does that happen? Please, tell us!!!!

Find us a few dozen examples ... no, wait, a HALF dozen... examples of where people lawfully carrying a weapon with a permit shot a bystander by accident while engaged in a fight with a criminal assailant.


You have all the resources of the interwebz at your disposal.


If it happens so often as you imply, it should be a cakewalk.


Go. Get busy.

Report back when you've found them.

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Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

If a gun isn't effective at stopping someone with a knife or any other type of physical attack, then why does every police officer in the country carry a gun?

Why don't they just carry knives instead?

Wendy was attacked without warning. She could have had a machine gun locked and loaded and the outcome would have been the same. Even armed cops get blindsided and killed regularly. A gun doesn't make you bullet proof or knife proof.

But it DOES give you an opportunity to fight back. A very good one.

And an even better shot at killing bystanders.

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Anonymous wrote:A woman was stabbed while jogging near Logan Circle last night. The report said that she was waiting to cross 11th and P St. when three men attacked her. She died.

It happened before 8:00PM. That's really not late, especially in such a popular dining neighborhood. There would have been plenty of people around. Be safe out there, ladies.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-stabbed-in-logan-circle

This is one of the saddest stories. I hate it when everyone tries to tell us what she could have done differently to save herself. It is literally a fear that the majority of us have...being killed in a volent way and knowing that we could have been her and ended the same way.

I heard she is being buried in her wedding dress. How sad and I feel for her family!

Holy wow that is so sad.

I doubt that considering she just got engaged a week before her death.

I’m wrong

“Cora Martinez said her daughter will be buried in her wedding gown, which she chose the weekend before she was killed. Services will be held at Christ Fellowship Church in Royal Palm Beach, Florida, on Tuesday.”

https://abc13.com/friends-family-gather-for-memorial-service-for-slain-jogger/4317333/

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Anonymous wrote:As if the story couldn’t get any worse apparently when they caught him, before they even mentioned what he was being charged with he said something about “stabbing a little girl.” Martinez was like 5 feet tall and 100 pounds. He may have thought she was a kid.

Martinez (and everyone else in the area) should have gone jogging with pepper spray in her hand, ready to go.

I cannot see any other way to save yourself if a crazy guy attacks you with a knive.

A handgun is wayyyyyy more effective than pepper spray

Wild Bill Hikkock would not have been able to draw a gun fast enough to stop someone from basically shiving him without warning while he was jogging.

If a gun isn't effective at stopping someone with a knife or any other type of physical attack, then why does every police officer in the country carry a gun?

Why don't they just carry knives instead?

Wendy was attacked without warning. She could have had a machine gun locked and loaded and the outcome would have been the same. Even armed cops get blindsided and killed regularly. A gun doesn't make you bullet proof or knife proof.

But it DOES give you an opportunity to fight back. A very good one.

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Anonymous wrote:A woman was stabbed while jogging near Logan Circle last night. The report said that she was waiting to cross 11th and P St. when three men attacked her. She died.

It happened before 8:00PM. That's really not late, especially in such a popular dining neighborhood. There would have been plenty of people around. Be safe out there, ladies.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-stabbed-in-logan-circle

This is one of the saddest stories. I hate it when everyone tries to tell us what she could have done differently to save herself. It is literally a fear that the majority of us have...being killed in a volent way and knowing that we could have been her and ended the same way.

I heard she is being buried in her wedding dress. How sad and I feel for her family!

Holy wow that is so sad.

I doubt that considering she just got engaged a week before her death.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen a mugshot of Anthony Crawford? I haven't, and I've been looking for it.

Nor have I. Which makes me think the police are hiding something. Like maybe he was beaten or tortured while in custody, and they're afraid to show photos of what he looks like now. Or maybe perhaps they're afraid that someone will recognize him as being someone else, and it will prove that police arrested the wrong person.

I wouldn't put anything past police. They are as a group some of the very worst people in our society. We allow them to enforce the laws, despite them constantly proving they aren't worthy of that responsibility or our trust.

Why do you think his mug shot isn't up? He's black and it was a hate crime. They do not want to inflame the crazy lefties who will defend him.

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Anonymous wrote:It can all be fixed for free if normal people are allowed to carry a handgun. Watch how civilized people will become in one second.

I used to think this was a terrible idea. But after a decade of living here, I think it's probably the answer.

There’s video of the attack. The woman ran by the perp and he literally slashed/stabbed her neck as she ran by. It was over in the course of 1.5 seconds. Having a handgun would have done nothing to protect her. If anything, the murderer would have had access to a deadlier weapon.

A hand gun is useless when you are attacked by surprise.

I’m not sure this is true. Someone else posted that they work for a news outlet and saw the unedited video and that Wendy “fought like hell”. I don’t think you can stab someone 7 times in 1.5 seconds as they are running past you.

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There is no possible way all that happened in a second or two

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Anonymous wrote:It can all be fixed for free if normal people are allowed to carry a handgun. Watch how civilized people will become in one second.

I used to think this was a terrible idea. But after a decade of living here, I think it's probably the answer.

There’s video of the attack. The woman ran by the perp and he literally slashed/stabbed her neck as she ran by. It was over in the course of 1.5 seconds. Having a handgun would have done nothing to protect her. If anything, the murderer would have had access to a deadlier weapon.

A hand gun is useless when you are attacked by surprise.

Video of the actual attack has not been released.

Would anyone mind if cops were "unofficially" beat the shit out guys like Crawford before he did something like the murder of the jogger... I'm sure he had "run-ins" with the police before he murdered.

Another guy who could have been paid a visit by police and roughed up a little was the mass shooter who shot up the newspaper office in Annapolis. I think he was on the radar of the police long before the shooting. The shooter was harassing a girl and the cops were notified. I think they did pay him a visit to tell him to stand down, but maybe a couple of baton strikes to the gut could have cooled him down and caused him to move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen a mugshot of Anthony Crawford? I haven't, and I've been looking for it.

Nor have I. Which makes me think the police are hiding something. Like maybe he was beaten or tortured while in custody, and they're afraid to show photos of what he looks like now. Or maybe perhaps they're afraid that someone will recognize him as being someone else, and it will prove that police arrested the wrong person.

I wouldn't put anything past police. They are as a group some of the very worst people in our society. We allow them to enforce the laws, despite them constantly proving they aren't worthy of that responsibility or our trust.

I’d take 100 dirty cops over the likes of Anthony Crawford.

MPD has 3,500 officers. A lot more than 100 are dirty. Try probably 2,000+.

2,000+ bullies who intimidate and abuse how many people, per day? No thanks. I'll take Crawford. Sooner or later street justice deals with people like that. But cops never get dealt with.

You sound as mentally unstable as Crawford.

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Anonymous wrote:It can all be fixed for free if normal people are allowed to carry a handgun. Watch how civilized people will become in one second.

I used to think this was a terrible idea. But after a decade of living here, I think it's probably the answer.

There’s video of the attack. The woman ran by the perp and he literally slashed/stabbed her neck as she ran by. It was over in the course of 1.5 seconds. Having a handgun would have done nothing to protect her. If anything, the murderer would have had access to a deadlier weapon.

A hand gun is useless when you are attacked by surprise.

I’m not sure this is true. Someone else posted that they work for a news outlet and saw the unedited video and that Wendy “fought like hell”. I don’t think you can stab someone 7 times in 1.5 seconds as they are running past you.

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Anonymous wrote:It can all be fixed for free if normal people are allowed to carry a handgun. Watch how civilized people will become in one second.

I used to think this was a terrible idea. But after a decade of living here, I think it's probably the answer.

That and more severe punishments. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. We’re way too lenient on our criminals. Going to jail is actually a step up for some of them and so it’s not much of a deterrent. Three hots and a cot.

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Anonymous wrote:It can all be fixed for free if normal people are allowed to carry a handgun. Watch how civilized people will become in one second.

I used to think this was a terrible idea. But after a decade of living here, I think it's probably the answer.

There’s video of the attack. The woman ran by the perp and he literally slashed/stabbed her neck as she ran by. It was over in the course of 1.5 seconds. Having a handgun would have done nothing to protect her. If anything, the murderer would have had access to a deadlier weapon.

A hand gun is useless when you are attacked by surprise.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone seen a mugshot of Anthony Crawford? I haven't, and I've been looking for it.

Nor have I. Which makes me think the police are hiding something. Like maybe he was beaten or tortured while in custody, and they're afraid to show photos of what he looks like now. Or maybe perhaps they're afraid that someone will recognize him as being someone else, and it will prove that police arrested the wrong person.

I wouldn't put anything past police. They are as a group some of the very worst people in our society. We allow them to enforce the laws, despite them constantly proving they aren't worthy of that responsibility or our trust.

I’d take 100 dirty cops over the likes of Anthony Crawford.

MPD has 3,500 officers. A lot more than 100 are dirty. Try probably 2,000+.

2,000+ bullies who intimidate and abuse how many people, per day? No thanks. I'll take Crawford. Sooner or later street justice deals with people like that. But cops never get dealt with.

Omg - turn off the tv and pick up a book. You are becoming delusional. If there are 20 bad cops, I’d be surprised. Dc is served by an excellent police force.

White privilege checking in I see.