Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 22:12     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, wow. That is a terrible burden for her to bear. It is not her fault and, really, she shouldn't try to take responsibility for it but it will be hard for her to not try to do it. I hope she gets some help dealing with all of this.


Yes, my heart goes out to this young woman who came forward to share more. There really wasn't much any of these people could do to prevent this. As crazy as he sounded, there wasn't anything reportable unless he shared an actual plan to kill the parents. Hopefully something she shares will help another family prevent this sort of tragedy-maybe they will read the story and recognize their own kid/friend. Who knows?


Interesting to note the boy had friends there and he shared these views at school so there is the potential other young people may share his views. It sounds like this is the type of school where there are enough adults that they will tune into this. I hope so and I hope the other students get the support they need as they process this. It's a very small school so likely everyone knew eachother.


These kids have enough going on in their lives w/o stigmatizing them and their school. The boy was mentally unstable and he said inappropriate things in class - that seems clear.
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I have a child with SN myself and I don't see this as stigmatizing the school. There is nothing shameful in putting your child in a more specialized setting. I see the school has some internal work to do if this hatred was spewed inside, but I also pray for every student. If anything this story is opening my eyes more to all that I need to do to help prepare my own child with SN for the real world and I will pay even closer attention to significant others. I truly hope the daughter is able to turn her life on a much better path and have something positive come out of this in terms of her choices for the future. It's a very complicated and heartbreaking situation.


It was the statement that if this guy had friends at this school then maybe those friends also shared his neo nazi views. That.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 22:06     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, wow. That is a terrible burden for her to bear. It is not her fault and, really, she shouldn't try to take responsibility for it but it will be hard for her to not try to do it. I hope she gets some help dealing with all of this.


Yes, my heart goes out to this young woman who came forward to share more. There really wasn't much any of these people could do to prevent this. As crazy as he sounded, there wasn't anything reportable unless he shared an actual plan to kill the parents. Hopefully something she shares will help another family prevent this sort of tragedy-maybe they will read the story and recognize their own kid/friend. Who knows?


Interesting to note the boy had friends there and he shared these views at school so there is the potential other young people may share his views. It sounds like this is the type of school where there are enough adults that they will tune into this. I hope so and I hope the other students get the support they need as they process this. It's a very small school so likely everyone knew eachother.


These kids have enough going on in their lives w/o stigmatizing them and their school. The boy was mentally unstable and he said inappropriate things in class - that seems clear.
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I have a child with SN myself and I don't see this as stigmatizing the school. There is nothing shameful in putting your child in a more specialized setting. I see the school has some internal work to do if this hatred was spewed inside, but I also pray for every student. If anything this story is opening my eyes more to all that I need to do to help prepare my own child with SN for the real world and I will pay even closer attention to significant others. I truly hope the daughter is able to turn her life on a much better path and have something positive come out of this in terms of her choices for the future. It's a very complicated and heartbreaking situation.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:57     Subject: Shooting in Reston

The buzzfeed article is heartbreaking. It seems like the mother was trying everything she could think of.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend?utm_term=.avnxwlgB7#.nv7jb6LEV
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:56     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, wow. That is a terrible burden for her to bear. It is not her fault and, really, she shouldn't try to take responsibility for it but it will be hard for her to not try to do it. I hope she gets some help dealing with all of this.


Yes, my heart goes out to this young woman who came forward to share more. There really wasn't much any of these people could do to prevent this. As crazy as he sounded, there wasn't anything reportable unless he shared an actual plan to kill the parents. Hopefully something she shares will help another family prevent this sort of tragedy-maybe they will read the story and recognize their own kid/friend. Who knows?


Interesting to note the boy had friends there and he shared these views at school so there is the potential other young people may share his views. It sounds like this is the type of school where there are enough adults that they will tune into this. I hope so and I hope the other students get the support they need as they process this. It's a very small school so likely everyone knew eachother.


These kids have enough going on in their lives w/o stigmatizing them and their school. The boy was mentally unstable and he said inappropriate things in class - that seems clear.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:54     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


The mom probably was trying to get this handled over the break while school was out and her daughter was safe at home with adults present. She used no nonsense, serious language when talking to the school about this boy and made it clear that she considered this boy to be a big problem. By focusing on the neo natzi aspect she was making this the school's problem, too. Her daughter was at risk and she was doing everything she could to distance her baby girl from that boy.



From reading the articles in the Post, it sounds as though both the "intervention" and the letter to the school occurred BEFORE school let out. And you are forgetting that these were TWO mentally unstable and emotionally volatile CHILDREN who were reacting to getting backed into a corner. Ask yourself, was the goal to break them up or to dissuade them of their Nazi sympathies? As repellent as both children's Nazi sentiments are/were, the two children most likely would have been better served if they had been approached in a less aggressive and less antagonistic manner.


I missed something. Where was it reported that the daughter was a Nazi sympathizer?


She supported her boyfriend and his views. A perspective that has been conveniently missed by most of the posters.


Where was that reported?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:53     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


The mom probably was trying to get this handled over the break while school was out and her daughter was safe at home with adults present. She used no nonsense, serious language when talking to the school about this boy and made it clear that she considered this boy to be a big problem. By focusing on the neo natzi aspect she was making this the school's problem, too. Her daughter was at risk and she was doing everything she could to distance her baby girl from that boy.



From reading the articles in the Post, it sounds as though both the "intervention" and the letter to the school occurred BEFORE school let out. And you are forgetting that these were TWO mentally unstable and emotionally volatile CHILDREN who were reacting to getting backed into a corner. Ask yourself, was the goal to break them up or to dissuade them of their Nazi sympathies? As repellent as both children's Nazi sentiments are/were, the two children most likely would have been better served if they had been approached in a less aggressive and less antagonistic manner.


I don't know when their private school went on winter break. But the email to the school, the intervention at the friend's house and the shooting all took place within a matter of days. Like I said, I think the mom considered the boy to be an extremely negative influence on her daughter and wanted that kid out of her daughter's school and she wanted him away from her daughter altogether.

This thing came to a head very quickly with tragic results.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:50     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Oh, wow. That is a terrible burden for her to bear. It is not her fault and, really, she shouldn't try to take responsibility for it but it will be hard for her to not try to do it. I hope she gets some help dealing with all of this.


Yes, my heart goes out to this young woman who came forward to share more. There really wasn't much any of these people could do to prevent this. As crazy as he sounded, there wasn't anything reportable unless he shared an actual plan to kill the parents. Hopefully something she shares will help another family prevent this sort of tragedy-maybe they will read the story and recognize their own kid/friend. Who knows?


Interesting to note the boy had friends there and he shared these views at school so there is the potential other young people may share his views. It sounds like this is the type of school where there are enough adults that they will tune into this. I hope so and I hope the other students get the support they need as they process this. It's a very small school so likely everyone knew eachother.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:38     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


The mom probably was trying to get this handled over the break while school was out and her daughter was safe at home with adults present. She used no nonsense, serious language when talking to the school about this boy and made it clear that she considered this boy to be a big problem. By focusing on the neo natzi aspect she was making this the school's problem, too. Her daughter was at risk and she was doing everything she could to distance her baby girl from that boy.



From reading the articles in the Post, it sounds as though both the "intervention" and the letter to the school occurred BEFORE school let out. And you are forgetting that these were TWO mentally unstable and emotionally volatile CHILDREN who were reacting to getting backed into a corner. Ask yourself, was the goal to break them up or to dissuade them of their Nazi sympathies? As repellent as both children's Nazi sentiments are/were, the two children most likely would have been better served if they had been approached in a less aggressive and less antagonistic manner.


I missed something. Where was it reported that the daughter was a Nazi sympathizer?


She supported her boyfriend and his views. A perspective that has been conveniently missed by most of the posters.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:36     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


The mom probably was trying to get this handled over the break while school was out and her daughter was safe at home with adults present. She used no nonsense, serious language when talking to the school about this boy and made it clear that she considered this boy to be a big problem. By focusing on the neo natzi aspect she was making this the school's problem, too. Her daughter was at risk and she was doing everything she could to distance her baby girl from that boy.



From reading the articles in the Post, it sounds as though both the "intervention" and the letter to the school occurred BEFORE school let out. And you are forgetting that these were TWO mentally unstable and emotionally volatile CHILDREN who were reacting to getting backed into a corner. Ask yourself, was the goal to break them up or to dissuade them of their Nazi sympathies? As repellent as both children's Nazi sentiments are/were, the two children most likely would have been better served if they had been approached in a less aggressive and less antagonistic manner.


I missed something. Where was it reported that the daughter was a Nazi sympathizer?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:36     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Oh, wow. That is a terrible burden for her to bear. It is not her fault and, really, she shouldn't try to take responsibility for it but it will be hard for her to not try to do it. I hope she gets some help dealing with all of this.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:35     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Buzzfeed spoke to a friend of the daughter. The school is reportedly Dominion school in Springfield. Mom reached out to the friend about her concerns and the texts were shared with Buzzfeed. That poor friend probably wishes she could have done more and must be a mess right now. She's only 18 herself.


Correction: don't know age of friend, but I am sure she is young and this is so horrifying. Sounds like the friend had lots of concerns too. School only had 29 students and provided emotional, learning and/or behavioral support. Breaks my heart for the other students to deal with the trauma of this all too.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:29     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Buzzfeed spoke to a friend of the daughter. The school is reportedly Dominion school in Springfield. Mom reached out to the friend about her concerns and the texts were shared with Buzzfeed. That poor friend probably wishes she could have done more and must be a mess right now. She's only 18 herself.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:28     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Certainly no one deserves to be murdered. However, based on what we've read in the paper about her actions, it is safe to say that as time goes on we will all see that the mom made some significant errors in the way she handled the situation and that, in turn, caused the children to make their own bad choices.


The mom probably was trying to get this handled over the break while school was out and her daughter was safe at home with adults present. She used no nonsense, serious language when talking to the school about this boy and made it clear that she considered this boy to be a big problem. By focusing on the neo natzi aspect she was making this the school's problem, too. Her daughter was at risk and she was doing everything she could to distance her baby girl from that boy.



From reading the articles in the Post, it sounds as though both the "intervention" and the letter to the school occurred BEFORE school let out. And you are forgetting that these were TWO mentally unstable and emotionally volatile CHILDREN who were reacting to getting backed into a corner. Ask yourself, was the goal to break them up or to dissuade them of their Nazi sympathies? As repellent as both children's Nazi sentiments are/were, the two children most likely would have been better served if they had been approached in a less aggressive and less antagonistic manner.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 21:19     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Apparently.

Moral: Some NeoNazis are very fine people. Don't make them angry or they will run you over or shoot you down.


And it will be your fault for defending your family.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:52     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the obituary advertised in WaPo today only mentions the father? Could the families be pointing fingers at each other and taking their own and mourning alone?


Leave it alone. Concern yourself with how this kid got a gun and hot to prevent tragedies. I already posted before to say Scott is getting totally overshadowed by his wife in the media. He should get recognized for the amazing person he was too. He ended up dead due to his stepdaughter dating the wrong guy. Her own father is still living. Leave his family alone. I knew them way back when and they are truly wonderful people as was he. He is more than just "husband of Buckley the saint."


From the names, it look like he had one child from a previous marriage or relationship, she had one child from a previous marriage relationship, and they had two children together. Right?


Of the 3 children, 2 were step children-including the shooter's girlfriend and one was his biological child with Buckey (youngest-boy age 10) The biological father's name is woven into the name of 2 of the 3 kids in that obit.