Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:32     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here: To be frank, I don't think my reasons would justify well in this space. I just needed to unload somewhere. DCUM was the only place to do it. Thank you for listening.


I'm pretty sure you're a troll and just trying to be provocative. But whatever. Have a nice day.


Why would this person be a troll? Do you think it impossible that a middle aged black man would vote for Trump? I don't think it is that far fetched at all and can understand why he would not admit to his friends. I do think that you are in denial and will be surprised when Trump becomes POTUS. I see this going down in the history books like this: Donald J. Trump, a controversial candidate hated by many, elected by a small margin, made the most positive change in the US in a century. Crime at all time low, economy booming, jobs coming back to US, immigration problem solved, etc. etc. In his second term, he won 95% of he vote.


When asked, this "liberal black man" has been unable to provide any coherent reasoning why voting for Trump makes logical sense for a "former Obama Voter". After a few rounds of that, people get sick of it and just call troll.


Yup. Why not state your reasons? It's an anonymous board.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:32     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here: To be frank, I don't think my reasons would justify well in this space. I just needed to unload somewhere. DCUM was the only place to do it. Thank you for listening.


I'm pretty sure you're a troll and just trying to be provocative. But whatever. Have a nice day.


Why would this person be a troll? Do you think it impossible that a middle aged black man would vote for Trump? I don't think it is that far fetched at all and can understand why he would not admit to his friends. I do think that you are in denial and will be surprised when Trump becomes POTUS. I see this going down in the history books like this: Donald J. Trump, a controversial candidate hated by many, elected by a small margin, made the most positive change in the US in a century. Crime at all time low, economy booming, jobs coming back to US, immigration problem solved, etc. etc. In his second term, he won 95% of he vote.


Lol! I have never doubt he can win but if this comes to pass I will eat my hat.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:31     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here: To be frank, I don't think my reasons would justify well in this space. I just needed to unload somewhere. DCUM was the only place to do it. Thank you for listening.


I'm pretty sure you're a troll and just trying to be provocative. But whatever. Have a nice day.


Why would this person be a troll? Do you think it impossible that a middle aged black man would vote for Trump? I don't think it is that far fetched at all and can understand why he would not admit to his friends. I do think that you are in denial and will be surprised when Trump becomes POTUS. I see this going down in the history books like this: Donald J. Trump, a controversial candidate hated by many, elected by a small margin, made the most positive change in the US in a century. Crime at all time low, economy booming, jobs coming back to US, immigration problem solved, etc. etc. In his second term, he won 95% of he vote.


When asked, this "liberal black man" has been unable to provide any coherent reasoning why voting for Trump makes logical sense for a "former Obama Voter". After a few rounds of that, people get sick of it and just call troll.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:28     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Most people vote with their guts not with their head... That is the unfixabke problem of democracy.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:24     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here: To be frank, I don't think my reasons would justify well in this space. I just needed to unload somewhere. DCUM was the only place to do it. Thank you for listening.


I'm pretty sure you're a troll and just trying to be provocative. But whatever. Have a nice day.


Why would this person be a troll? Do you think it impossible that a middle aged black man would vote for Trump? I don't think it is that far fetched at all and can understand why he would not admit to his friends. I do think that you are in denial and will be surprised when Trump becomes POTUS. I see this going down in the history books like this: Donald J. Trump, a controversial candidate hated by many, elected by a small margin, made the most positive change in the US in a century. Crime at all time low, economy booming, jobs coming back to US, immigration problem solved, etc. etc. In his second term, he won 95% of he vote.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 11:02     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Trump but I'm not telling anyone. Maybe that's part of the problem. But as I see it, people who are against Trump are SOOOO against him that they can't be nice or have a normal conversation about why Trump vs. Hillary. Too many people get defensive or try to get you to change your mind. I'm all for listening to another perspective, but not at the risk of being attacked.

For what's it worth, here are the main reasons I'm voting Trump:
1) What Trump actually says vs. the media headlines/quotes taken out of context are two different things. Does he say stuff he shouldn't? Absolutely. And some of it I certainly don't agree with. But, see point 2.
2) He's not an established politician. He's new to the scene and will shake things up. I think our political system needs that. And because he isn't a politician, he's rougher around the edges. Hasn't had the media training or experience all the other candidates have.
3) He's a successful businessman. He knows how to put the right people in the right position to create a successful company/business. I see that as the job of the President.
4) And after last night's speech, he's bringing the Republican party to a more middle ground--I like that.
5) And last but not least, I agree that neither Presidential hopeful is ideal. But with Trump, at least you know where you stand. With Hillary, it's a series of lies and skirting the system. To me, she's not trustworthy.


+1

I understand what Trump meant very well. I am frustrated with the media twisting his words. That's one of the main reasons that my spouse, who is not political and rarely voted before, will vote for Trump in November. I will not vote for Ted Cruz type of Republican. But with Trump it's an easy choice for me.


Can you cite any examples when the media "twisted his words"? The NY Times posted his thoughts about NATO. The GOP foreign policy shops went berserk. Trump reiterated his comments in his speech last night. Did the Time twist his words?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:55     Subject: Re:this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:With the exception of comments on NATO in recent days, I'm liking what I hear from the speeches last night, Ivanka pushing daycare for working families, Trump's speech not bad


What about his remarks about Judge Curiel? He does not respect the court when he gets rulings against him. And he's using racism to attack the judge, simply because he's not winning. In a businessman, I can understand and disapprove of the tactic. In a President?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:53     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:This troll is still going on - WOW!


Yes anyone with a different opinion than yours is a troll
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:51     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

This troll is still going on - WOW!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:43     Subject: Re:this is the only place to admit it

With the exception of comments on NATO in recent days, I'm liking what I hear from the speeches last night, Ivanka pushing daycare for working families, Trump's speech not bad
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:41     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:I am a 38 year old woman, progressive. I love Obama. I am also voting for Trump and vehemently denying it even to my own spouse because he calls me a fascist at breakfast if I try to plead my case.


But Trump is a fascist. Look it up.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:38     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:I am a 38 year old woman, progressive. I love Obama. I am also voting for Trump and vehemently denying it even to my own spouse because he calls me a fascist at breakfast if I try to plead my case.


Are you also an AA Brown graduate by any chance?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:32     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

I am a 38 year old woman, progressive. I love Obama. I am also voting for Trump and vehemently denying it even to my own spouse because he calls me a fascist at breakfast if I try to plead my case.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:29     Subject: Re:this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Donald Trump accepted the nomination of the Republican Party for president by appealing to, and fanning the flames of fear and resentment. It was notable for a presidential convention acceptance speech that it had so little hope, vision, or concrete examples of how Trump would advance his agenda and “Make America Great Again.” In essence he is saying, I am great so give me America. There is chaos. It’s a dangerous world. He will restore order. And he then went on to tell us just how chaotic and dangerous it is.

This is the classic theme of an authoritarian seeking to manipulate the masses by raw emotion. In his telling, the United States is violent, overrun by illegal immigrants, humiliated on the world stage and unable to get up off the mat. “The problems we face now — poverty and violence at home, war and destruction abroad — will last only as long as we continue relying on the same politicians who created them,” he said. Dangerous illegal immigrants are roaming free, he insists. We’ve never been this corrupt! It’s never been this dangerous! It is practically apocalyptic. Our airports are in “Third-World” shape.

The solution is not a particular set of policies, or any policies — it is him. “These are the forgotten men and women of our country. People who work hard but no longer have a voice. I am your voice,” he said. No clearer statement of the strongman — the all-knowing person whom one must trust to solve our problems — has ever been spoken by an American presidential nominee. This is the talk of 1930s fascists, tin pot dictators and snake oil salesman.


- Jennifer Rubin, conservative writer (and Ted Cruz cheerleader) for the Washington Post

Trump is essentially a reincarnation of Benito Mussolini, promising to make the trains run on time, but not willing to offer any details on how he would do so.


Thank you, Ms. Rubin. Conservatives and Christians, now is the time to get off the Trump train.


+1. I'm a conservative, and I highly disagree with Trymp supporters that "we know where he stands on the issues." No we don't! Abortion is just one example of where he's flip flopped. Lots of toxic talk and empty promises.

I don't like HRC either and will likely vote libertarian and down ballot. But I refuse to drink the Trump koolaid, he had not yet demonstrated he would be a better choice. There is still time to change my mind of course.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2016 10:16     Subject: this is the only place to admit it

Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Trump but I'm not telling anyone. Maybe that's part of the problem. But as I see it, people who are against Trump are SOOOO against him that they can't be nice or have a normal conversation about why Trump vs. Hillary. Too many people get defensive or try to get you to change your mind. I'm all for listening to another perspective, but not at the risk of being attacked.

For what's it worth, here are the main reasons I'm voting Trump:
1) What Trump actually says vs. the media headlines/quotes taken out of context are two different things. Does he say stuff he shouldn't? Absolutely. And some of it I certainly don't agree with. But, see point 2.
2) He's not an established politician. He's new to the scene and will shake things up. I think our political system needs that. And because he isn't a politician, he's rougher around the edges. Hasn't had the media training or experience all the other candidates have.
3) He's a successful businessman. He knows how to put the right people in the right position to create a successful company/business. I see that as the job of the President.
4) And after last night's speech, he's bringing the Republican party to a more middle ground--I like that.
5) And last but not least, I agree that neither Presidential hopeful is ideal. But with Trump, at least you know where you stand. With Hillary, it's a series of lies and skirting the system. To me, she's not trustworthy.


+1

I understand what Trump meant very well. I am frustrated with the media twisting his words. That's one of the main reasons that my spouse, who is not political and rarely voted before, will vote for Trump in November. I will not vote for Ted Cruz type of Republican. But with Trump it's an easy choice for me.