Anonymous
03/10/2016 14:48
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
succeedED.
Anonymous
03/10/2016 14:47
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Here's my perspective:
My kid scored very well in 3rd grade, at 4 in English and 5 in math. Overall, he was in 97% percentile for the city and 99th percentile for his school. His school fared badly, with low 20s scores for math and English. However, my kid's own test scores showed me that despite the small numbers of high performing kids at his Title 1 schools, he is still learning and is comparable with his peers WOTP. So, I'm giving kudos to his teachers who have clearly succeeding in differentiated learning and engaging my child while also teaching a classroom with kids in poverty who do not have the advantage my kid has.
My kid scored very well in 3rd grade, at 4 in English and 5 in math. Overall, he was in 97% percentile for the city and 99th percentile for his school. His school fared badly, with low 20s scores for math and English. However, my kid's own test scores showed me that despite the small numbers of high performing kids at his Title 1 schools, he is still learning and is comparable with his peers WOTP. So, I'm giving kudos to his teachers who have clearly succeeding in differentiated learning and engaging my child while also teaching a classroom with kids in poverty who do not have the advantage my kid has.
Anonymous
03/09/2016 19:42
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:I, a NP am saying that for most of these schools, you are talking about a sample size, per grade of 25-50 kids. That is not huge. In fact, it is not really large enough to tell you anything at all, except how the individual kids did. Wouldn't it be nice if we got test results back in time to help them, instead of discovering nine months later where they might needed help nine months ago?
I am not opposed to testing at all--and my child got a 4 and a 5--but having those metrics be the measure of her school is bullshit. The kids are all different
If anything, a variety of scores suggests that the school is helping a variety of kids at different learning levels.
Using PARCC scores alone to measure a school is foolish. And there's a reason last year's scores are not relied upon.
Anonymous
03/09/2016 19:33
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"OA has 19% FARM, Janney has 2%. More than enough to make up for 5 point overall difference. VERY telling.
-Not an OA or any JKLM parent"
Janney's math program is not aligned with the tests.
True. Janney's math program is aligned to the Common Core standards, even if it may go beyond them. PARCC tests progress against the Common Core standards.
So you're saying you don't expect Janney to do well on PARCC?
No - Janney should and will do well given the background of the kids and the curriculum
Anonymous
03/09/2016 19:33
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
I, a NP am saying that for most of these schools, you are talking about a sample size, per grade of 25-50 kids. That is not huge. In fact, it is not really large enough to tell you anything at all, except how the individual kids did. Wouldn't it be nice if we got test results back in time to help them, instead of discovering nine months later where they might needed help nine months ago?
I am not opposed to testing at all--and my child got a 4 and a 5--but having those metrics be the measure of her school is bullshit. The kids are all different
If anything, a variety of scores suggests that the school is helping a variety of kids at different learning levels.
I am not opposed to testing at all--and my child got a 4 and a 5--but having those metrics be the measure of her school is bullshit. The kids are all different
If anything, a variety of scores suggests that the school is helping a variety of kids at different learning levels.
Anonymous
03/09/2016 19:22
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"OA has 19% FARM, Janney has 2%. More than enough to make up for 5 point overall difference. VERY telling.
-Not an OA or any JKLM parent"
Janney's math program is not aligned with the tests.
True. Janney's math program is aligned to the Common Core standards, even if it may go beyond them. PARCC tests progress against the Common Core standards.
So you're saying you don't expect Janney to do well on PARCC?
Anonymous
03/09/2016 19:21
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Yup, the scores in third worry me. Maybe I have a skewed/unrealistic view, but shouldn't most kids (ie 75 percent plus) be performing at or above grade level? What gives? Again, maybe I am way off base; grew up in an environment where being above grade level was the norm.
PARCC is brand new ans on computer. Even MoCo looks like bad when you look at raw scores. Give it time.
Anonymous
03/09/2016 16:30
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:"OA has 19% FARM, Janney has 2%. More than enough to make up for 5 point overall difference. VERY telling.
-Not an OA or any JKLM parent"
Janney's math program is not aligned with the tests.
True. Janney's math program is aligned to the Common Core standards, even if it may go beyond them. PARCC tests progress against the Common Core standards.
Anonymous
03/09/2016 16:08
Subject: PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
"OA has 19% FARM, Janney has 2%. More than enough to make up for 5 point overall difference. VERY telling.
-Not an OA or any JKLM parent"
Janney's math program is not aligned with the tests.
-Not an OA or any JKLM parent"
Janney's math program is not aligned with the tests.
Anonymous
03/08/2016 20:07
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Yup, the scores in third worry me. Maybe I have a skewed/unrealistic view, but shouldn't most kids (ie 75 percent plus) be performing at or above grade level? What gives? Again, maybe I am way off base; grew up in an environment where being above grade level was the norm.
It is a new test - so different for all.
Also all students - including those with learning or intellectual disabilities take PARCC and are included in the reported school scores. That doesn't account for all of the gap but there will likely never be 100% proficiency.
Anonymous
03/08/2016 19:20
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
PP here. Yup, the scores in third worry me. Maybe I have a skewed/unrealistic view, but shouldn't most kids (ie 75 percent plus) be performing at or above grade level? What gives? Again, maybe I am way off base; grew up in an environment where being above grade level was the norm.
Anonymous
03/08/2016 17:57
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:We are IB for Hyde and currently in PK. Our experience thus far has been awesome - teachers, parents, principal all great. No problem children so to speak in our class. We are though just starting out. What I can't figure out is why are Hyde's score so unimpressive (to put it kindly).
There are other schools with racial diversity that are doing better ... So what's our problem? Need to get this figured out, because I am not so sure I want to stick around if these scores don't climb, unless there is an explanation I'm comfortable with.
Did you take a look at scores by grade?
3rd grade scored 46% and 43% Math and English - not great but not terrible
4th grade scored 60% and 73% Math and English which is really good
5th grade scored 33% and 44% Math and English which is a pretty big drop
The decline in 5th grade scores could be for any number of reasons, but if it's anything like my DC's school my first guess is a chunk of high scoring students leave after 4th grade.
Anonymous
03/08/2016 16:33
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:We are IB for Hyde and currently in PK. Our experience thus far has been awesome - teachers, parents, principal all great. No problem children so to speak in our class. We are though just starting out. What I can't figure out is why are Hyde's score so unimpressive (to put it kindly).
There are other schools with racial diversity that are doing better ... So what's our problem? Need to get this figured out, because I am not so sure I want to stick around if these scores don't climb, unless there is an explanation I'm comfortable with.
PK bears no resemblance to the testing grades. Once students start falling behind, which typically occurs in First Grade, it's virtually impossible for them to catchup. The admin will dismiss poor test scores as not reflective of the learning going on inside the school. You need to inquire about interventions and other remediation, including pullouts.
Anonymous
03/08/2016 15:37
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
Anonymous wrote:We are IB for Hyde and currently in PK. Our experience thus far has been awesome - teachers, parents, principal all great. No problem children so to speak in our class. We are though just starting out. What I can't figure out is why are Hyde's score so unimpressive (to put it kindly).
There are other schools with racial diversity that are doing better ... So what's our problem? Need to get this figured out, because I am not so sure I want to stick around if these scores don't climb, unless there is an explanation I'm comfortable with.
Have you asked the principal what he/she thinks about the scores?
Anonymous
03/08/2016 15:30
Subject: Re:PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8
We are IB for Hyde and currently in PK. Our experience thus far has been awesome - teachers, parents, principal all great. No problem children so to speak in our class. We are though just starting out. What I can't figure out is why are Hyde's score so unimpressive (to put it kindly).
There are other schools with racial diversity that are doing better ... So what's our problem? Need to get this figured out, because I am not so sure I want to stick around if these scores don't climb, unless there is an explanation I'm comfortable with.
There are other schools with racial diversity that are doing better ... So what's our problem? Need to get this figured out, because I am not so sure I want to stick around if these scores don't climb, unless there is an explanation I'm comfortable with.