Anonymous
Post 08/27/2016 13:37     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So it looks like only 3 Hardy students scored a 5 in math and 11 in ELA on the 15-16 PARCC.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School

Deal had only 40 score a 5 in math, but 362 scored a 5 in ELA.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School

Looks like it is really hard to score a 5 on the PARCC.


I can't math, but you should work these numbers up as a percentage, since Deal is so much bigger. Also control for SES and race to get a clearer picture.


I actually think raw number are more important because it tells you about the math classroom itself.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2016 11:44     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Agree it's really hard to compare.

In addition to demographic differences some of the kids at both Deal and Hardy took Algebra, not Math 6/7/8 PARCC test.




Anonymous
Post 08/27/2016 11:40     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like only 3 Hardy students scored a 5 in math and 11 in ELA on the 15-16 PARCC.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School

Deal had only 40 score a 5 in math, but 362 scored a 5 in ELA.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School

Looks like it is really hard to score a 5 on the PARCC.


I can't math, but you should work these numbers up as a percentage, since Deal is so much bigger. Also control for SES and race to get a clearer picture.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2016 11:08     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Yeah, where do Hyde kids go for middle? Do they only have one 5th grade class?
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2016 10:29     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

I wasn't surprised at the Mann numbers-last year was the first year since Mann went up through 6th that there has been two 5th grade classes, and last year, all but one or two kids whose parents got transferred over the summer stayed through 5th, which is amazing! I ma surprised the Hyde numbers are so low, since they have high OOB numbers as well.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 20:58     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

At Stoddert this year there are around 52 fifth graders, all of whom were existing Stoddert students last year (except for one child who had moved overseas 2 years ago but is now back). (Bad news for OOB I guess, because Stoddert is no longer a school to enter in the later grades in hopes of getting into the feeder pattern for Hardy.) Anyway, Last year we had 60 fourth graders, so we lost less than 10. That's kinda huge. I know several who turned down charter spots too. The point is, things are looking very promising that Stoddert will be sending a lot of 6th graders next year. Conservatively, I'd estimate 40.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 19:04     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any estimates or numbers of the kids attending 6th from the feeders for this coming fall (IB or otherwise) [Stoddert, Mann, Hyde, Key? (too early for Eaton?)]


There are about 18 kids from Stoddert, 13 from Mann, 11 from Key, and maybe 1-2 from Hyde.



I'm the OP. Seriously.

These numbers please me. (I do not have kids at all involved with Hardy, so this is the first I've heard.)

I remain convinced the "big bump" happens this coming year. These numbers already exceed what I expected, so I'm even more convinced that the next incoming class will be many more feeder kids. (The Key kids are a surprise. Mann and Stoddert sent more kids than I expected, but I always presumed they'd send the most. The same holds next year, I think.)


+1 This is great news!
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 17:55     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any estimates or numbers of the kids attending 6th from the feeders for this coming fall (IB or otherwise) [Stoddert, Mann, Hyde, Key? (too early for Eaton?)]


There are about 18 kids from Stoddert, 13 from Mann, 11 from Key, and maybe 1-2 from Hyde.



I'm the OP. Seriously.

These numbers please me. (I do not have kids at all involved with Hardy, so this is the first I've heard.)

I remain convinced the "big bump" happens this coming year. These numbers already exceed what I expected, so I'm even more convinced that the next incoming class will be many more feeder kids. (The Key kids are a surprise. Mann and Stoddert sent more kids than I expected, but I always presumed they'd send the most. The same holds next year, I think.)


OP - your analysis is bearing up well!! is Key as surprise to you as more or less than expected? It has definitely been the slowest adopter for a variety of reasons, but I think the parents are finally getting excited about it as an option as the growth from the other schools is continuing too. I agree there is likely to be a big bump next year (and possible more at Key the year after even given the numbers and the IB/OOB ratios in those grades.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 16:42     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

How big is the class size at Hardy? About 130?

So 33% IB now for 6th grade?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 16:39     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any estimates or numbers of the kids attending 6th from the feeders for this coming fall (IB or otherwise) [Stoddert, Mann, Hyde, Key? (too early for Eaton?)]


There are about 18 kids from Stoddert, 13 from Mann, 11 from Key, and maybe 1-2 from Hyde.



I'm the OP. Seriously.

These numbers please me. (I do not have kids at all involved with Hardy, so this is the first I've heard.)

I remain convinced the "big bump" happens this coming year. These numbers already exceed what I expected, so I'm even more convinced that the next incoming class will be many more feeder kids. (The Key kids are a surprise. Mann and Stoddert sent more kids than I expected, but I always presumed they'd send the most. The same holds next year, I think.)
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2016 15:02     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any estimates or numbers of the kids attending 6th from the feeders for this coming fall (IB or otherwise) [Stoddert, Mann, Hyde, Key? (too early for Eaton?)]


There are about 18 kids from Stoddert, 13 from Mann, 11 from Key, and maybe 1-2 from Hyde.

My impression so far as the parent of a new 6th grader: Hardy is a small, diverse, urban school with good academics and extracurriculars. It has interesting options for languages for a public school of this size (Chinese, through the Confucius Classroom project; Italian, due to it's affiliation with the Italian Embassy). It's small enough that the Principal knows every kid by name. The building and facilities are beautiful. The class sizes are small to average for a public school (about 12 -15 in some of the classes). The PTO is becoming a major force for positive change and parent engagement and investment in the school. The majority of the teachers (I can only speak to the 6th grade teachers) seem excellent and engaging. There is no "special focus" to draw parents to this school - it is a public school and should be available to all, and is not an arts charter school, etc. Fillmore shares the building, but there's no interaction with the kids, and as Hardy becomes more popular (it is currently under enrolled), there will likely be less room for Fillmore. In a couple of years when the new Duke Ellington is complete, there will probably be the option of advanced art/music classes at Ellington (they used to have advanced math students go there in years past, but now they have the advanced math classes at Hardy itself). It is easy to get to and easy to park nearby for people who are in boundary.

It is far from perfect, as is my child, as am I. But it's exciting to be the change.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2016 11:16     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

In another thread, a parent reports that enrollment at Deal is up 18%. Do we have any similar anec-data on Hardy? On which schools those kids came from?
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2016 17:13     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So it looks like only 3 Hardy students scored a 5 in math and 11 in ELA on the 15-16 PARCC.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School

Deal had only 40 score a 5 in math, but 362 scored a 5 in ELA.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School

Looks like it is really hard to score a 5 on the PARCC.


It maybe hard to score a 5, but those number on the hyperlink are for 2014-2015. It is mislabeled on the profile page. If you click into it, you see that the test scores are for last year. Unless of course the scores have actually been released and it is the test detail page that hasn't been updated. Can't really be sure which is causing the discrepancy.


2014-16 PARCC scores have not been released. Those are last year's numbers.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2016 17:05     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Does anyone have any estimates or numbers of the kids attending 6th from the feeders for this coming fall (IB or otherwise) [Stoddert, Mann, Hyde, Key? (too early for Eaton?)]
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2016 13:28     Subject: By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like only 3 Hardy students scored a 5 in math and 11 in ELA on the 15-16 PARCC.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School

Deal had only 40 score a 5 in math, but 362 scored a 5 in ELA.

http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School

Looks like it is really hard to score a 5 on the PARCC.


It maybe hard to score a 5, but those number on the hyperlink are for 2014-2015. It is mislabeled on the profile page. If you click into it, you see that the test scores are for last year. Unless of course the scores have actually been released and it is the test detail page that hasn't been updated. Can't really be sure which is causing the discrepancy.