Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Why does being married make it healthy? That's a mind-bogglingly stupid claim. There's literally no difference between marital and non-marital sex, from a health standpoint.
There is certainly a difference from an emotional standpoint. And married people are (presumably) in a committed relationship and monogamous. They have the infrastructure in place to take care of an unexpected child.
In Jane Austen's day, a 25 year old spinster was an old maid. Teens were certainly having babies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
In reality your son is pressuring the girls to have sex with him. Not the other way around.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
I was a teenager once. And I was having sex. So was literally every other teenager I knew. I was extremely responsible-I was on BC and we always used condoms as well every single time. Saying “don’t have sex” actually causes more teenage pregnancies then making sure your teenagers are safe, have the facts and know to they can come to you about birth control.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Why does being married make it healthy? That's a mind-bogglingly stupid claim. There's literally no difference between marital and non-marital sex, from a health standpoint.
There is certainly a difference from an emotional standpoint. And married people are (presumably) in a committed relationship and monogamous. They have the infrastructure in place to take care of an unexpected child.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Why does being married make it healthy? That's a mind-bogglingly stupid claim. There's literally no difference between marital and non-marital sex, from a health standpoint.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Why does being married make it healthy? That's a mind-bogglingly stupid claim. There's literally no difference between marital and non-marital sex, from a health standpoint.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
NP. No, teenagers having sex is not healthy (unless they’re married, and most teens are not mature enough for that). Sex is a huge commitment that involves emotional intimacy and physical risks as well (STDs, pregnancy). Even if you have no religious or moral objection to teen sex, consider this: no birth control is 100%. If your son gets a girl pregnant, he has zero say in what happens next. None. She might abort a baby he wanted to raise. He may spend the rest of his life paying for a baby he didn’t want. I tell my son not to have sex with anyone he wouldn’t want to co-parent with for the rest of his life.
And causal sex is more likely to lead to intimacy issues than avoiding it is. DH and I dated for many years without having sex and eventually got married. Very close with each other and our families of origin.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does it bother people if other parents don’t want their underage children having sex? Thats disgusting. They are children. This is the United States. People should have the freedom to believe and do whatever they want.
10 years from now your kid is going to be sitting in therapy because their parent called them disgusting when they found out they had sex at 17 with their also 17 year old boyfriend or girlfriend. That’s was teenagers do. It’s normal, it’s healthy and it’s parents like you that cause kids to grow up having intimacy issues.
Anonymous wrote:Well yeah, a lot of them are just that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly...everything in the MAGA-world.
Work hard, find dignity in even menial work, provide for your families and children, love your country, be a good spouse, don't depend on public assistance, have a relationship with God/attend church, believe in free speech...
All things that the folks I have met who call themselves Maga live and espouse.
** I would say judging people as a monolithic identity group based on discord and stereotypes sowed on social media by political operatives and overseas bot farms would be the best current "cultural" thing to avoid doing in your lives and raising your kids.
I'm so tired of this BS gaslighting. MAGA elected one of the most corrupt and criminal presidents we have ever had. He is dismantling our democracy before our eyes. He is blatantly pushing white supremacy and authoritarianism. Just this morning, he called Kim Jong Un a "decent guy" who he gets along with while labeling the people he is supposed to govern as liberal scum, traitors, and lunatics. And MAGA is saying, "Great job, president." No, you all are decent folks. You can go to church all you want but I want nothing to do wiht you.
Anonymous wrote:Well yeah, a lot of them are just that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly...everything in the MAGA-world.
Work hard, find dignity in even menial work, provide for your families and children, love your country, be a good spouse, don't depend on public assistance, have a relationship with God/attend church, believe in free speech...
All things that the folks I have met who call themselves Maga live and espouse.
** I would say judging people as a monolithic identity group based on discord and stereotypes sowed on social media by political operatives and overseas bot farms would be the best current "cultural" thing to avoid doing in your lives and raising your kids.
I'm so tired of this BS gaslighting. MAGA elected one of the most corrupt and criminal presidents we have ever had. He is dismantling our democracy before our eyes. He is blatantly pushing white supremacy and authoritarianism. Just this morning, he called Kim Jong Un a "decent guy" who he gets along with while labeling the people he is supposed to govern as liberal scum, traitors, and lunatics. And MAGA is saying, "Great job, president." No, you all are decent folks. You can go to church all you want but I want nothing to do wiht you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t push my kids to succeed academically. I don’t care if they do extracurriculars. Don’t care if they go to college or not. Most of our evenings and weekends are just spent chilling at home.
Same!!! I find it absurd, honestly.
Why have kids if you don't want them to do well in life and be successful?
DP but in my family experience the ones who went to college didn’t get anything out of it. We aren’t wealthy and my family spent a lot of money for these degrees.
Myself: degree in biochemistry, now work part time doing low level science
Husband: degree, has paper pusher job
Sister: degree, married well, doesn’t work
Female Cousin: degree, married well, doesn’t work
Male cousins: no degree, make more than the rest of us combined doing manual labor/trades
So I know what my sons should aim for.
Frankly, you and your family sounds dumb. You should have chosen more in-demand degrees in college. For that, you needed the kind of academic chops that only develops by consistent, long term curiosity and hard work. Or you could have pivoted.
Parents are a key component in the academic guidance and support that children need to reach there.
Well yeah, a lot of them are just that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly...everything in the MAGA-world.
Work hard, find dignity in even menial work, provide for your families and children, love your country, be a good spouse, don't depend on public assistance, have a relationship with God/attend church, believe in free speech...
All things that the folks I have met who call themselves Maga live and espouse.
** I would say judging people as a monolithic identity group based on discord and stereotypes sowed on social media by political operatives and overseas bot farms would be the best current "cultural" thing to avoid doing in your lives and raising your kids.
I'm so tired of this BS gaslighting. MAGA elected one of the most corrupt and criminal presidents we have ever had. He is dismantling our democracy before our eyes. He is blatantly pushing white supremacy and authoritarianism. Just this morning, he called Kim Jong Un a "decent guy" who he gets along with while labeling the people he is supposed to govern as liberal scum, traitors, and lunatics. And MAGA is saying, "Great job, president." No, you all are decent folks. You can go to church all you want but I want nothing to do wiht you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly...everything in the MAGA-world.
Work hard, find dignity in even menial work, provide for your families and children, love your country, be a good spouse, don't depend on public assistance, have a relationship with God/attend church, believe in free speech...
All things that the folks I have met who call themselves Maga live and espouse.
** I would say judging people as a monolithic identity group based on discord and stereotypes sowed on social media by political operatives and overseas bot farms would be the best current "cultural" thing to avoid doing in your lives and raising your kids.
I'm so tired of this BS gaslighting. MAGA elected one of the most corrupt and criminal presidents we have ever had. He is dismantling our democracy before our eyes. He is blatantly pushing white supremacy and authoritarianism. Just this morning, he called Kim Jong Un a "decent guy" who he gets along with while labeling the people he is supposed to govern as liberal scum, traitors, and lunatics. And MAGA is saying, "Great job, president." No, you all are decent folks. You can go to church all you want but I want nothing to do wiht you.