Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 10:09     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
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Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.


I'm the "hostile" poster. Again, my post only paraphrases comments that have actually been made in this thread.

I don't have any issue with the existence of charters and don't "denigrate" them.

I do have an issue with charter parents who denigrate DCPS -- or at least who, oddly, denigrate DCPS for having responsibility for handling our most challenging social problems.

DCPS leadership sucks. They may have some sort of credentials in education, but we need people at Central who are excellent managers and who are gifted in leading change. Being a role-model for a specific demographic is nice, but it's not enough. We need a new mayor who makes more inspired choices for DCPS leadership.

And I don't begrudge charter parents who find the best solutions for the own kids. They should do that.

BUT to choose a charter and then complain about how good kids in DCPS have it? That's nuts.


The city spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than it does in charters every single year. Why stop there? Why not $100,000 more? Maybe we should impose a special annual fee on families who go to charters too. Even better, why don't we create a special tax surcharge on them? Maybe every family in charters should be subject to a special 25 percent income tax surcharge? And all the money that raises can be earmarked for even more over-the-top renovations for DCPS? Do any of the schools have lazy rivers, yet?


No need to have facility envy! Your high school age children are welcome at Ballou and Anacostia!

The over-the-top (though 10 year worn) renovations are available to every family here.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 09:53     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.


I'm the "hostile" poster. Again, my post only paraphrases comments that have actually been made in this thread.

I don't have any issue with the existence of charters and don't "denigrate" them.

I do have an issue with charter parents who denigrate DCPS -- or at least who, oddly, denigrate DCPS for having responsibility for handling our most challenging social problems.

DCPS leadership sucks. They may have some sort of credentials in education, but we need people at Central who are excellent managers and who are gifted in leading change. Being a role-model for a specific demographic is nice, but it's not enough. We need a new mayor who makes more inspired choices for DCPS leadership.

And I don't begrudge charter parents who find the best solutions for the own kids. They should do that.

BUT to choose a charter and then complain about how good kids in DCPS have it? That's nuts.


The city spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than it does in charters every single year. Why stop there? Why not $100,000 more? Maybe we should impose a special annual fee on families who go to charters too. Even better, why don't we create a special tax surcharge on them? Maybe every family in charters should be subject to a special 25 percent income tax surcharge? And all the money that raises can be earmarked for even more over-the-top renovations for DCPS? Do any of the schools have lazy rivers, yet?


Let's see...those over-the-top renovations to a handful of DCPS high schools were completed a decade ago.

When did you choose to start your child in a charter?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 09:42     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.


I'm the "hostile" poster. Again, my post only paraphrases comments that have actually been made in this thread.

I don't have any issue with the existence of charters and don't "denigrate" them.

I do have an issue with charter parents who denigrate DCPS -- or at least who, oddly, denigrate DCPS for having responsibility for handling our most challenging social problems.

DCPS leadership sucks. They may have some sort of credentials in education, but we need people at Central who are excellent managers and who are gifted in leading change. Being a role-model for a specific demographic is nice, but it's not enough. We need a new mayor who makes more inspired choices for DCPS leadership.

And I don't begrudge charter parents who find the best solutions for the own kids. They should do that.

BUT to choose a charter and then complain about how good kids in DCPS have it? That's nuts.


The city spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than it does in charters every single year. Why stop there? Why not $100,000 more? Maybe we should impose a special annual fee on families who go to charters too. Even better, why don't we create a special tax surcharge on them? Maybe every family in charters should be subject to a special 25 percent income tax surcharge? And all the money that raises can be earmarked for even more over-the-top renovations for DCPS? Do any of the schools have lazy rivers, yet?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 09:11     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.


I'm the "hostile" poster. Again, my post only paraphrases comments that have actually been made in this thread.

I don't have any issue with the existence of charters and don't "denigrate" them.

I do have an issue with charter parents who denigrate DCPS -- or at least who, oddly, denigrate DCPS for having responsibility for handling our most challenging social problems.

DCPS leadership sucks. They may have some sort of credentials in education, but we need people at Central who are excellent managers and who are gifted in leading change. Being a role-model for a specific demographic is nice, but it's not enough. We need a new mayor who makes more inspired choices for DCPS leadership.

And I don't begrudge charter parents who find the best solutions for the own kids. They should do that.

BUT to choose a charter and then complain about how good kids in DCPS have it? That's nuts.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 09:03     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.


And going to Rocketship means you'll turn out great even though the test scores are a disaster and they're losing kids rapidly? Come on. EOTR has plenty of low-performing charters, some even worse than nearby DCPS. That's the real critique of charter schools-- failure to clear even that very low bar.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2026 08:34     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?


The DCUM crowd has a component of people who are white people living in gentrifying neighborhoods who are highly sensitive to their neighbors who choose to opt into DCI feeders or Latin or BASIS and their entire worldview is shaped by how betrayed they feel by it.

But this is a tiny proportion of the charter world. Do these people even know anyone who sent their kids to DC Prep? And how thankful they are that this option exists, to support their kids who have college aspirations but live in a community where going to the local DCPS means joining the drug trade and gang life? This is not a stereotype, this is from conversations I've had with people in that group.

So it does feel hostile for "Nice white parents" to denigrate charters.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 22:01     Subject: Re:Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
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Anonymous wrote:DC spends almost $10,000 more per child on those in DCPS vs. charters. You can see the breakdown in spending here: https://dcchhttps://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcpsarters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


Fixed: https://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


DC spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than in charter schools? How is that even legal?


No union, no union benefits 🤷🏽‍♀️

If they choose to not utilize unions that is their right but do not expect the same level of benefits.


There should be overall budget parity by law. It doesn’t matter if the union negotiates a better deal or not, it comes out of the DCPS pot. But DCPS doesn’t want budget parity.


Nah. Chargers are private public schools, it does not make sense to fund them the same when they have big donors and some are literal chains…
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 21:59     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


For the better facilities 😂
The charters in w7/8 are doing just as poorly as the DCPS schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 21:26     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.


You're right. I don't think its many Ward 7 and 8 charter school parents here saying the stuff above. The above only applies to the DCUM charter school crowd. What above has not been said in this thread?
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 21:08     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.


This is so hostile. Please go say this to Ward 7 and ward 8 parents, most of whom send their kids to charters.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 20:40     Subject: Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Charter school parents: We want DC to way over-spend on our facilities too (albeit without the big gratuity to developers). Any money that WTU negotiates for their dues-paying teachers is owed to our teachers too. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS has failed us. We *have to* go to charters because DCPS is violent. We can't take any students that have to or want to leave other charters; DCPS needs to take those. Even as we take away half the kids from DCPS, we don't want to have any part is helping solve the messes that DCPS has to deal with -- that is other kids' problem.

Basically, we want the equality for all the good stuff but avoidance for all the difficult parts.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 19:09     Subject: Re:Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC spends almost $10,000 more per child on those in DCPS vs. charters. You can see the breakdown in spending here: https://dcchhttps://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcpsarters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


Fixed: https://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


DC spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than in charter schools? How is that even legal?


No union, no union benefits 🤷🏽‍♀️

If they choose to not utilize unions that is their right but do not expect the same level of benefits.


There should be overall budget parity by law. It doesn’t matter if the union negotiates a better deal or not, it comes out of the DCPS pot. But DCPS doesn’t want budget parity.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 14:59     Subject: Re:Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC spends almost $10,000 more per child on those in DCPS vs. charters. You can see the breakdown in spending here: https://dcchhttps://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcpsarters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


Fixed: https://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


DC spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than in charter schools? How is that even legal?


No union, no union benefits 🤷🏽‍♀️

If they choose to not utilize unions that is their right but do not expect the same level of benefits.


That $10,000 per student doesn't just reflect teacher salaries though. I think it's so silly that all educators -- public and public charter aren't banding together to advocate for a fair overall per pupil annually for all schools, and then, yes, people negotiate within that overall budget. Without DC offloading part of DCPS's budget, the 2.55% increase for schools would mean cuts to staff AT ALL SCHOOLS even if salaries stayed level. This gamesmanship that is only affecting charters right now isn't sustainable and eventually traditional public teachers and traditional public students will feel the same pain.

What's most disappointing is that people who overwhelmingly choose charters for their own children think it's ok that the teachers of their children get hurt -- not because of a DCPS decision or the DCPS union -- but because people sitting in council seats and the mayor's office refuse to support those teachers.


Our elected officials go out of their way to shit on kids who go to charter schools. There's an election coming...
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 14:06     Subject: Re:Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC spends almost $10,000 more per child on those in DCPS vs. charters. You can see the breakdown in spending here: https://dcchhttps://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcpsarters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


Fixed: https://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


DC spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than in charter schools? How is that even legal?


No union, no union benefits 🤷🏽‍♀️

If they choose to not utilize unions that is their right but do not expect the same level of benefits.


I'm agnostic on union benefits.

But the difference in facilities funding is a genuine issue of fairness.


And there is a great deal of shadiness involved. Bowser gets huge campaign contributions from developers, and then steers these school projects to those who donate a lot. This has all been reported on, you can look it up.

Lots of genuine questions be asked about school renovation funding.

Nothing shady about charter schools and their money! Amos.


I think this response is called "whataboutism."

We should all be wary of our shady mayor and her dealings (and Kenyan will be the same). It's not the schools or families faults, but it's happening.


Janeese would be the worst of all. She is rabidly anti-charter. I don't know how any charter family could support her.


She's been talking a good game on the campaign trail -- depending on the audience. I guess we'll see what she says and does in the next few Council meetings when the budget is debated. Before votes for Mayor are cast in June, it will become very clear where she really stands.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2026 14:03     Subject: Re:Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC spends almost $10,000 more per child on those in DCPS vs. charters. You can see the breakdown in spending here: https://dcchhttps://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcpsarters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


Fixed: https://dccharters.org/blog/testimony-fy27-boh-pcsb-dcps


DC spends $10,000 more per child in DCPS than in charter schools? How is that even legal?


No union, no union benefits 🤷🏽‍♀️

If they choose to not utilize unions that is their right but do not expect the same level of benefits.


That $10,000 per student doesn't just reflect teacher salaries though. I think it's so silly that all educators -- public and public charter aren't banding together to advocate for a fair overall per pupil annually for all schools, and then, yes, people negotiate within that overall budget. Without DC offloading part of DCPS's budget, the 2.55% increase for schools would mean cuts to staff AT ALL SCHOOLS even if salaries stayed level. This gamesmanship that is only affecting charters right now isn't sustainable and eventually traditional public teachers and traditional public students will feel the same pain.

What's most disappointing is that people who overwhelmingly choose charters for their own children think it's ok that the teachers of their children get hurt -- not because of a DCPS decision or the DCPS union -- but because people sitting in council seats and the mayor's office refuse to support those teachers.