Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 23:17     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AOC needs time to learn. I'm not sure who to blame. AOC or her staff.She ws completely unprepared for Muncih. Venezuela gaff, word salad, ridiculing Rubio on the cowboys originating in Spain. They were called vaqueros, who are cow herders, which mortared in Mexico then US as cowboys. With Hispanic heritage, that makes it even. worse.

Both Newsom and AOC are a mess. So much baggage. Wes Moore caught lying. (and I liked him!) Gov Pete and too soft. We need something just shy of middle age who is dynamic like Bill Clinton and Obama.

I think Newsom could have won who CA is a mess.Pritzker is a mess. 2 badly run states with huge problems. Chris Murphy is holier than though with zero personality. Andy Bershear (Sp) is boring.

I wouldn't risk a woman at this point. Maybe for VP. But I think AOC as VP would be like Vance. Not viable as president. I think Pelosi gave her advice. Learn, get some chops, then be the new generation.

But who would have guessed Mamadai would win NYC. Though he is good looking and personably, and his opponents were hard Nos. Perfect storm for him to get elected.

Most off the radar sane people have little interest in turning their lives upside down to run for president.

We don’t need a charismatic superstar. I’m tired of the Presidency as a cult of personality - give me someone who is rational, diligent, and competent as a Chief Executive. I’d be fine with Beshear or Kelly.

Kelly would be perfect if he weren't such a boring speaker.

- reddish purple state with decent amount of electoral votes
- ex-military
- pro gun control
- untouchable personal life

And he's an astronaut!

But he comes across like dry toast personified when he speaks.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 23:03     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:AOC needs time to learn. I'm not sure who to blame. AOC or her staff.She ws completely unprepared for Muncih. Venezuela gaff, word salad, ridiculing Rubio on the cowboys originating in Spain. They were called vaqueros, who are cow herders, which mortared in Mexico then US as cowboys. With Hispanic heritage, that makes it even. worse.

Both Newsom and AOC are a mess. So much baggage. Wes Moore caught lying. (and I liked him!) Gov Pete and too soft. We need something just shy of middle age who is dynamic like Bill Clinton and Obama.

I think Newsom could have won who CA is a mess.Pritzker is a mess. 2 badly run states with huge problems. Chris Murphy is holier than though with zero personality. Andy Bershear (Sp) is boring.

I wouldn't risk a woman at this point. Maybe for VP. But I think AOC as VP would be like Vance. Not viable as president. I think Pelosi gave her advice. Learn, get some chops, then be the new generation.

But who would have guessed Mamadai would win NYC. Though he is good looking and personably, and his opponents were hard Nos. Perfect storm for him to get elected.

Most off the radar sane people have little interest in turning their lives upside down to run for president.

We don’t need a charismatic superstar. I’m tired of the Presidency as a cult of personality - give me someone who is rational, diligent, and competent as a Chief Executive. I’d be fine with Beshear or Kelly.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 22:21     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
I think we need to realize that at this point there are many Dems who are "anyone but Trump." Unfortunately, there are many centrists which that reasoning isn't good enough. See: Trump winning.

A dynamic male like Kennedy, Clinton and Obama.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 22:15     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:AOC needs time to learn. I'm not sure who to blame. AOC or her staff.She ws completely unprepared for Muncih. Venezuela gaff, word salad, ridiculing Rubio on the cowboys originating in Spain. They were called vaqueros, who are cow herders, which mortared in Mexico then US as cowboys. With Hispanic heritage, that makes it even. worse.

Both Newsom and AOC are a mess. So much baggage. Wes Moore caught lying. (and I liked him!) Gov Pete and too soft. We need something just shy of middle age who is dynamic like Bill Clinton and Obama.

I think Newsom could have won who CA is a mess.Pritzker is a mess. 2 badly run states with huge problems. Chris Murphy is holier than though with zero personality. Andy Bershear (Sp) is boring.

I wouldn't risk a woman at this point. Maybe for VP. But I think AOC as VP would be like Vance. Not viable as president. I think Pelosi gave her advice. Learn, get some chops, then be the new generation.

But who would have guessed Mamadai would win NYC. Though he is good looking and personably, and his opponents were hard Nos. Perfect storm for him to get elected.

Most off the radar sane people have little interest in turning their lives upside down to run for president.


Sorry, worse that she didn't know her own heritage.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 22:14     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
AOC needs time to learn. I'm not sure who to blame. AOC or her staff.She ws completely unprepared for Muncih. Venezuela gaff, word salad, ridiculing Rubio on the cowboys originating in Spain. They were called vaqueros, who are cow herders, which mortared in Mexico then US as cowboys. With Hispanic heritage, that makes it even. worse.

Both Newsom and AOC are a mess. So much baggage. Wes Moore caught lying. (and I liked him!) Gov Pete and too soft. We need something just shy of middle age who is dynamic like Bill Clinton and Obama.

I think Newsom could have won who CA is a mess.Pritzker is a mess. 2 badly run states with huge problems. Chris Murphy is holier than though with zero personality. Andy Bershear (Sp) is boring.

I wouldn't risk a woman at this point. Maybe for VP. But I think AOC as VP would be like Vance. Not viable as president. I think Pelosi gave her advice. Learn, get some chops, then be the new generation.

But who would have guessed Mamadai would win NYC. Though he is good looking and personably, and his opponents were hard Nos. Perfect storm for him to get elected.

Most off the radar sane people have little interest in turning their lives upside down to run for president.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 22:11     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more names floated here the more I think AOC is the only viable choice.

Yeah, someone who may not be able to win an election for statewide office in NY is a totally viable candidate in a national election 🙄


Her career ceiling is capped where she is now because she hasn't yet committed to selling herself to the megadonors. I commend her for not selling out.

Her career ceiling is capped at the moment because up until recently she has been so unabashedly far left that she had no chance winning outside of her small liberal district. To be honest I think she’s too scared to challenge Schumer because if she can’t win a statewide race in NY you can stick a fork her in her national aspirations.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:33     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more names floated here the more I think AOC is the only viable choice.

Yeah, someone who may not be able to win an election for statewide office in NY is a totally viable candidate in a national election 🙄


Her career ceiling is capped where she is now because she hasn't yet committed to selling herself to the megadonors. I commend her for not selling out.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:16     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeezus, she pulled a Kamala



Give me Harris or AOC over Biden all day.


How about none of the above,?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:15     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:It has to be Gavin Newsom. Straight from central casting.


Good choice if only votes in NY and LA counted. Won't cut it in the Heartland.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:07     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:It has to be Gavin Newsom. Straight from central casting.
His ex-wife is currently Trump’s Ambassador to Greece and she was formerly engaged to Trump’s son. I think that should sink him.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:04     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
It has to be Gavin Newsom. Straight from central casting.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 21:03     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:The more names floated here the more I think AOC is the only viable choice.

Yeah, someone who may not be able to win an election for statewide office in NY is a totally viable candidate in a national election 🙄
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 19:41     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Jeezus, she pulled a Kamala



Give me Harris or AOC over Biden all day.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 19:22     Subject: Re:What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Jeezus, she pulled a Kamala

Anonymous
Post 02/16/2026 19:10     Subject: What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more names floated here the more I think AOC is the only viable choice.


I guess you didn't see her looking like a fool at the Munich Conference. Get clued in.


Vapid airhead alert.