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Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think.
Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done.
There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population. And almost double the protest numbers of May.
If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like. Or August.
THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this?
Because I'm not a nihilist.
Yes, they see. They are not blind. And they really really care.
Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have. If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen.
This is a really strange view of the country that you have.
This weekend, a crazy conservative assassinated attempted to assassinate another Democrat state legislator. This weekend, 4-6 million Americans peacefully protested (with some violence done to them in Utah and Virginia and California) the unlawful and unconstitutional and unAmerican things that our president and government are doing.
You think our president and government could have stopped them?
How?
You have a naive understanding of the way power works on this country, who has it, and for what causes they are allowed to wield it.
Okay.
I have some understanding of how large this country is, population and square footage. I have some understanding of how fundamental the ideals of this country are, in our culture, of freedom, individuality, and respect for the law. There are criminals, but they are not respected. By anyone.
If you think this weekend was meaningless, you might be right. I think you're wrong. We'll see.
There's a reason the Jan 6th protesters made it inside the Capitol and only one of them was shot, while the BLM protests elicited a very different response from law enforcement.
There's a reason my local protest happened at a park, not in front of the ICE building or even downtown.
There's a reason these protests were largely white and thus were allowed to remain largely peaceful.
There's a reason the LA protests in particular have been spicier than all the others.
Stop being naive. We can't fight what most of y'all won't even be honest with yourselves is happening.
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Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think.
Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done.
There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population. And almost double the protest numbers of May.
If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like. Or August.
THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this?
Because I'm not a nihilist.
Yes, they see. They are not blind. And they really really care.
Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have. If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen.
This is a really strange view of the country that you have.
This weekend, a crazy conservative assassinated attempted to assassinate another Democrat state legislator. This weekend, 4-6 million Americans peacefully protested (with some violence done to them in Utah and Virginia and California) the unlawful and unconstitutional and unAmerican things that our president and government are doing.
You think our president and government could have stopped them?
How?
You have a naive understanding of the way power works on this country, who has it, and for what causes they are allowed to wield it.
Okay.
I have some understanding of how large this country is, population and square footage. I have some understanding of how fundamental the ideals of this country are, in our culture, of freedom, individuality, and respect for the law. There are criminals, but they are not respected. By anyone.
If you think this weekend was meaningless, you might be right. I think you're wrong. We'll see.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It proved there's a massive, organized resistance. Millions of people are willing to risk standing up to a wanna be dictator. What do you think should happen instead?
No it didn't lol. You got a lot of people to show up and wave some signs. You didn't resist anything. Everything you protested against will continue, unobstructed and entirely unaffected by these peotests. Getting people to show up and wave a sign around on a Saturday is very very different from actively resisting anything.
You guys got a lot of nice pictures and made Trump sad. That's it.
HAHA. Sore loser. Our party was HUGE and everyone, everywhere, in every state wanted to go -- Went! I am sorry people were too embarrassed (or disgusted) to go to Trump's birthday bash.
Not a Trumpty Dump. I just don't see these protests effectuating anything. I want to see actual resistance, not comparisons of crowd size.
In order to build resistance, you have to educate people and get them to feel a part of a community and something bigger than themselves.
Sure, but at some point you also have to *do something* too. Lot of folks seem satisfied to stay at the community building/social media end of things. How many of the millions who showed up to take pictures and wave signs are going to go home and actively organize within their communities? How many are actively working to form mutual aid groups or organize their workplace? How many are actively working toward a general strike? I'll tell you—I'm at the meetings and it's not many.
I'm frankly sick and tired of seeing American resistance start and end at these damn sign parties. And then you all get self congratulatory afterward about crowd sizes, like you actually frickin did something. You didn't do anything. You saw all the people. You waved your signs. You felt good about yourselves. Now go DO something! Don't just sit on your ass until the next sign party or until it's time to vote.
Hi, concern troll. What is it that you want the resistance to do? Take up arms? Start a civil war? Attack the Capitol? Please be specific in what tactics you think will work.
Did you read my comment before you called me a concern troll? Because I literally gave examples of more effective actions people could take instead of focusing on these performances.
- Get involved with local organizing groups, find out what they are working on and how you can help
- Get involved with local mutual aid groups. Help create a safety net for the more vulnerable members of your community directly affected by fascist policies. Donate money, extra clothes, bring food to community fridges, etc.
- Organize your workplace. If you aren't in a union, get in one. If there isn't one, start one. A general strike requires organization and strike funds. We need to increase union membership to realistically make one happen. There are many groups working toward this goal. Find one and join them.
- Get involved in your local community. Get to know your local representatives. Know what they are up to. Know how to contact them, and make sure they'll know who the eff you are when you do. Attend your neighborhood association meetings.
Actual organizing and resistance starts locally and on the ground. Have fun with your little sign parties, but don't for one second tell yourself that you're doing resistance if that's where your active involvement ends.
Uh, the people taking part in the sign parties are the same ones who are doing the things you outlined. The idea is to raise awareness and recruit more to take an active part in the cause. That is how ogianizing and catalyzing works.
Except they aren't. Like I said, I'm at the meetings. We had about 3k at our local demonstration. Wanna know how many people attended the last neighborhood meeting? 11. I've been part of an organization working toward a general strike for years. Wanna know how many folks attended our last meeting? 23. Because people think these demonstrations ARE resistance. They waved their sign, they vote, so they've resisted, the end. And the people with actual boots on the ground doing work in your local community continue to work, essentially alone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It proved there's a massive, organized resistance. Millions of people are willing to risk standing up to a wanna be dictator. What do you think should happen instead?
No it didn't lol. You got a lot of people to show up and wave some signs. You didn't resist anything. Everything you protested against will continue, unobstructed and entirely unaffected by these peotests. Getting people to show up and wave a sign around on a Saturday is very very different from actively resisting anything.
You guys got a lot of nice pictures and made Trump sad. That's it.
HAHA. Sore loser. Our party was HUGE and everyone, everywhere, in every state wanted to go -- Went! I am sorry people were too embarrassed (or disgusted) to go to Trump's birthday bash.
Not a Trumpty Dump. I just don't see these protests effectuating anything. I want to see actual resistance, not comparisons of crowd size.
In order to build resistance, you have to educate people and get them to feel a part of a community and something bigger than themselves.
Sure, but at some point you also have to *do something* too. Lot of folks seem satisfied to stay at the community building/social media end of things. How many of the millions who showed up to take pictures and wave signs are going to go home and actively organize within their communities? How many are actively working to form mutual aid groups or organize their workplace? How many are actively working toward a general strike? I'll tell you—I'm at the meetings and it's not many.
I'm frankly sick and tired of seeing American resistance start and end at these damn sign parties. And then you all get self congratulatory afterward about crowd sizes, like you actually frickin did something. You didn't do anything. You saw all the people. You waved your signs. You felt good about yourselves. Now go DO something! Don't just sit on your ass until the next sign party or until it's time to vote.
Hi, concern troll. What is it that you want the resistance to do? Take up arms? Start a civil war? Attack the Capitol? Please be specific in what tactics you think will work.
Did you read my comment before you called me a concern troll? Because I literally gave examples of more effective actions people could take instead of focusing on these performances.
- Get involved with local organizing groups, find out what they are working on and how you can help
- Get involved with local mutual aid groups. Help create a safety net for the more vulnerable members of your community directly affected by fascist policies. Donate money, extra clothes, bring food to community fridges, etc.
- Organize your workplace. If you aren't in a union, get in one. If there isn't one, start one. A general strike requires organization and strike funds. We need to increase union membership to realistically make one happen. There are many groups working toward this goal. Find one and join them.
- Get involved in your local community. Get to know your local representatives. Know what they are up to. Know how to contact them, and make sure they'll know who the eff you are when you do. Attend your neighborhood association meetings.
Actual organizing and resistance starts locally and on the ground. Have fun with your little sign parties, but don't for one second tell yourself that you're doing resistance if that's where your active involvement ends.
Uh, the people taking part in the sign parties are the same ones who are doing the things you outlined. The idea is to raise awareness and recruit more to take an active part in the cause. That is how ogianizing and catalyzing works.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think.
Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done.
There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population. And almost double the protest numbers of May.
If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like. Or August.
THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this?
Because I'm not a nihilist.
Yes, they see. They are not blind. And they really really care.
Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have. If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen.
This is a really strange view of the country that you have.
This weekend, a crazy conservative assassinated attempted to assassinate another Democrat state legislator. This weekend, 4-6 million Americans peacefully protested (with some violence done to them in Utah and Virginia and California) the unlawful and unconstitutional and unAmerican things that our president and government are doing.
You think our president and government could have stopped them?
How?
You have a naive understanding of the way power works on this country, who has it, and for what causes they are allowed to wield it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think.
Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done.
There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population. And almost double the protest numbers of May.
If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like. Or August.
THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this?
Because I'm not a nihilist.
Yes, they see. They are not blind. And they really really care.
Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have. If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen.
This is a really strange view of the country that you have.
This weekend, a crazy conservative assassinated attempted to assassinate another Democrat state legislator. This weekend, 4-6 million Americans peacefully protested (with some violence done to them in Utah and Virginia and California) the unlawful and unconstitutional and unAmerican things that our president and government are doing.
You think our president and government could have stopped them?
How?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It proved there's a massive, organized resistance. Millions of people are willing to risk standing up to a wanna be dictator. What do you think should happen instead?
No it didn't lol. You got a lot of people to show up and wave some signs. You didn't resist anything. Everything you protested against will continue, unobstructed and entirely unaffected by these peotests. Getting people to show up and wave a sign around on a Saturday is very very different from actively resisting anything.
You guys got a lot of nice pictures and made Trump sad. That's it.
HAHA. Sore loser. Our party was HUGE and everyone, everywhere, in every state wanted to go -- Went! I am sorry people were too embarrassed (or disgusted) to go to Trump's birthday bash.
Not a Trumpty Dump. I just don't see these protests effectuating anything. I want to see actual resistance, not comparisons of crowd size.
In order to build resistance, you have to educate people and get them to feel a part of a community and something bigger than themselves.
Sure, but at some point you also have to *do something* too. Lot of folks seem satisfied to stay at the community building/social media end of things. How many of the millions who showed up to take pictures and wave signs are going to go home and actively organize within their communities? How many are actively working to form mutual aid groups or organize their workplace? How many are actively working toward a general strike? I'll tell you—I'm at the meetings and it's not many.
I'm frankly sick and tired of seeing American resistance start and end at these damn sign parties. And then you all get self congratulatory afterward about crowd sizes, like you actually frickin did something. You didn't do anything. You saw all the people. You waved your signs. You felt good about yourselves. Now go DO something! Don't just sit on your ass until the next sign party or until it's time to vote.
Hi, concern troll. What is it that you want the resistance to do? Take up arms? Start a civil war? Attack the Capitol? Please be specific in what tactics you think will work.
Did you read my comment before you called me a concern troll? Because I literally gave examples of more effective actions people could take instead of focusing on these performances.
- Get involved with local organizing groups, find out what they are working on and how you can help
- Get involved with local mutual aid groups. Help create a safety net for the more vulnerable members of your community directly affected by fascist policies. Donate money, extra clothes, bring food to community fridges, etc.
- Organize your workplace. If you aren't in a union, get in one. If there isn't one, start one. A general strike requires organization and strike funds. We need to increase union membership to realistically make one happen. There are many groups working toward this goal. Find one and join them.
- Get involved in your local community. Get to know your local representatives. Know what they are up to. Know how to contact them, and make sure they'll know who the eff you are when you do. Attend your neighborhood association meetings.
Actual organizing and resistance starts locally and on the ground. Have fun with your little sign parties, but don't for one second tell yourself that you're doing resistance if that's where your active involvement ends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think.
Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done.
There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population. And almost double the protest numbers of May.
If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like. Or August.
THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this?
Because I'm not a nihilist.
Yes, they see. They are not blind. And they really really care.
Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have. If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received.
I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.
It proved there's a massive, organized resistance. Millions of people are willing to risk standing up to a wanna be dictator. What do you think should happen instead?
No it didn't lol. You got a lot of people to show up and wave some signs. You didn't resist anything. Everything you protested against will continue, unobstructed and entirely unaffected by these peotests. Getting people to show up and wave a sign around on a Saturday is very very different from actively resisting anything.
You guys got a lot of nice pictures and made Trump sad. That's it.
HAHA. Sore loser. Our party was HUGE and everyone, everywhere, in every state wanted to go -- Went! I am sorry people were too embarrassed (or disgusted) to go to Trump's birthday bash.
Not a Trumpty Dump. I just don't see these protests effectuating anything. I want to see actual resistance, not comparisons of crowd size.
In order to build resistance, you have to educate people and get them to feel a part of a community and something bigger than themselves.
Sure, but at some point you also have to *do something* too. Lot of folks seem satisfied to stay at the community building/social media end of things. How many of the millions who showed up to take pictures and wave signs are going to go home and actively organize within their communities? How many are actively working to form mutual aid groups or organize their workplace? How many are actively working toward a general strike? I'll tell you—I'm at the meetings and it's not many.
I'm frankly sick and tired of seeing American resistance start and end at these damn sign parties. And then you all get self congratulatory afterward about crowd sizes, like you actually frickin did something. You didn't do anything. You saw all the people. You waved your signs. You felt good about yourselves. Now go DO something! Don't just sit on your ass until the next sign party or until it's time to vote.