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Anonymous wrote:RFK is for vaccines if properly tested... silence

Big pharma has control over the Democrats... silence

RFK will Make America Healthy Again.... UGGHHH!

Vaccines are properly tested. That's what anti vax nitwits don't understand. Or they do understand it and refuse to believe it because the data show vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective. Vaccine are tested in clinical trials. They even publish the results publicly in peer reviewed journals.

So many idiots on the Internet can't understand it and will just say 'corruption!!!' when the trial data don't go their way.

DP. What is considered "proper" is widely debated. Many of us skeptics would like vaccines to be tested against inert placebos, instead of using other vaccines as a "control." We also are inherently suspicious of the "vaccine court" and its impartiality.

Personally, I won't trust vaccines until we get a longitudinal study with the current vax schedule, an older vax schedule and an unvaccinated control group. I suspect vaccine utility peaked decades ago, but no one will touch this with a 10-foot pole.

Please describe a clinical trial testing a vaccine against a placebo. Do you give 500 children the vaccine, 500 get the placebo, and expose them all to the disease and see which ones survive? I’m genuinely interested in your description of this trial.

lol. Clearly the PP is a clinician and understands the ethics…..


What a nutcase.

These circular "ethics" are what ultimately the vaccinators have to hid behind. It would be unethical to not give kids them, because we know they work so well even though we've never proven them to be a net positive. Please ignore the visible decline in children's health over the years.

Someday, somewhere someone is going to put vaccines to a real test. It's only a matter of time.

That is stupid. You cannot even give an infant a measles vaccine until they are 12 months old. So unless you get your infant to a place where measles is not circulating, which means a place with high levels of vaccination against measles, your young infant will get measles. It is one of the most infectious diseases.

Reason number 100 to have your pregnancy, your births and also your young young children in a blue state.

Americans will find out quickly how deadly these illnesses are. The ignorance here is astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RFK is for vaccines if properly tested... silence

Big pharma has control over the Democrats... silence

RFK will Make America Healthy Again.... UGGHHH!

Vaccines are properly tested. That's what anti vax nitwits don't understand. Or they do understand it and refuse to believe it because the data show vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective. Vaccine are tested in clinical trials. They even publish the results publicly in peer reviewed journals.

So many idiots on the Internet can't understand it and will just say 'corruption!!!' when the trial data don't go their way.

DP. What is considered "proper" is widely debated. Many of us skeptics would like vaccines to be tested against inert placebos, instead of using other vaccines as a "control." We also are inherently suspicious of the "vaccine court" and its impartiality.

Personally, I won't trust vaccines until we get a longitudinal study with the current vax schedule, an older vax schedule and an unvaccinated control group. I suspect vaccine utility peaked decades ago, but no one will touch this with a 10-foot pole.

Please describe a clinical trial testing a vaccine against a placebo. Do you give 500 children the vaccine, 500 get the placebo, and expose them all to the disease and see which ones survive? I’m genuinely interested in your description of this trial.

lol. Clearly the PP is a clinician and understands the ethics…..


What a nutcase.

These circular "ethics" are what ultimately the vaccinators have to hid behind. It would be unethical to not give kids them, because we know they work so well even though we've never proven them to be a net positive. Please ignore the visible decline in children's health over the years.

Someday, somewhere someone is going to put vaccines to a real test. It's only a matter of time.

That is stupid. You cannot even give an infant a measles vaccine until they are 12 months old. So unless you get your infant to a place where measles is not circulating, which means a place with high levels of vaccination against measles, your young infant will get measles. It is one of the most infectious diseases.

Reason number 100 to have your pregnancy, your births and also your young young children in a blue state.

OOF!

Assuming he gets cofirmed (a BIG if IMHO), he will be bad for the healthcare institutions of this country.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RFK is for vaccines if properly tested... silence

Big pharma has control over the Democrats... silence

RFK will Make America Healthy Again.... UGGHHH!

Vaccines are properly tested. That's what anti vax nitwits don't understand. Or they do understand it and refuse to believe it because the data show vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective. Vaccine are tested in clinical trials. They even publish the results publicly in peer reviewed journals.

So many idiots on the Internet can't understand it and will just say 'corruption!!!' when the trial data don't go their way.

DP. What is considered "proper" is widely debated. Many of us skeptics would like vaccines to be tested against inert placebos, instead of using other vaccines as a "control." We also are inherently suspicious of the "vaccine court" and its impartiality.

Personally, I won't trust vaccines until we get a longitudinal study with the current vax schedule, an older vax schedule and an unvaccinated control group. I suspect vaccine utility peaked decades ago, but no one will touch this with a 10-foot pole.

Please describe a clinical trial testing a vaccine against a placebo. Do you give 500 children the vaccine, 500 get the placebo, and expose them all to the disease and see which ones survive? I’m genuinely interested in your description of this trial.

lol. Clearly the PP is a clinician and understands the ethics…..


What a nutcase.

These circular "ethics" are what ultimately the vaccinators have to hid behind. It would be unethical to not give kids them, because we know they work so well even though we've never proven them to be a net positive. Please ignore the visible decline in children's health over the years.

Someday, somewhere someone is going to put vaccines to a real test. It's only a matter of time.

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Anonymous wrote:As a long time healthy volunteer at NIH and the VRC, vaccines only started full double blinded placedo testing in 2018 after RFK sued. Fun fact, the Covid phase 1 testing cut corners.

You have a link that shows this?

Does a researcher and nurse at the vrc who verbally told me they sped up the study count?

No

Ok Karen. Keep believing that the same media who lied about a pee pee tape and "believe the science" wont question the side effects of vaccines. Fun fact, between 1971 and 2020, 1,312 athletes suffered a cardiac arrest and died in the US. Between 2021 and 2022 that number was 1,398.

You don’t seem to understand science or math.

Well. It’s MAGA’s dumpster fire now.

Truly the utopia promised is breathtaking. An end to chronic disease, healthy school lunches, an end to childhood illnesses and all while cutting taxes.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t RFK Jr. a lifelong democrat?

Trump was also a Democrat until he wasn’t. What’s your point?

Isn’t RFK Jr. a lifelong democrat?

Anonymous wrote:The same MAGAs who lost their minds over Michelle Obama’s school lunches are now all in for RFK Jr. LOL.

It's so revealing of their hypocrisy. And none of them acknowledge it.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans are sicker and unhealthier than any other major country because we don't have universal health care, unlike every other major country.

Exactly.
Increase healthcare access, decrease work hours (encourage an hour break during work for exercise time), drastically improve funding for school lunches so they can provide quality foods, teach cooking in schools so people have that skill, and that can go a long way in improving health.

+1

When I was in school, we had lunch ladies who actually cooked the food. Most of it anyway. Why was that done away with?!

Also we (all students) had Home Economics in high school- which involved teaching about cooking, meal planning, budgeting etc. It was either for a semester or a full year not sure. Why was that gotten rid of?

Not saying either of things are perfect either- but a vast improvement to what is occurring now.

You would have to staff more cafeteria staff for longer hours and higher food costs than the prepackaged we have now.

There is nothing wrong with more staff working 8 hour days, and I think food costs to quality would be a wash. What you need is to pay top dollar to higher a head chef to run the kitchens efficiently and effectively (good food!) and you only need 1 at each school.

The same MAGAs who lost their minds over Michelle Obama’s school lunches are now all in for RFK Jr. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:If RFK can outlaw french fries, burgers and Big Gulps, good for him. MAGA might not be happy though.

McDonald’s fries in Europe have 3 ingredients.
Why do McDonald’s fries here have 17 ingredients?

Because Big Food likes it that way. Have you ever read Fast Food Nation? But, again, RFK Jr. is not the right person to change this terrible situation.

In your mind, who is the right person to make America healthy again?

I don’t think there’s one person that’s going to save us. There will have to be a groundswell of support for change and that’s not happening yet. The food and ag lobbies are a big part of the problem. Other countries don’t have to contend with the massive effects of industry lobbies on every aspect of American life.

There are also cultural factors at play such as the fact that Americans don’t like to be told what to do and what to eat or drink. It’s a systemic problem and may take a generation or more to change.

Anonymous wrote:As a long time healthy volunteer at NIH and the VRC, vaccines only started full double blinded placedo testing in 2018 after RFK sued. Fun fact, the Covid phase 1 testing cut corners.

And yet all those boomers vaxxed against polio, Mmr, and smallpox are fine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RFK is for vaccines if properly tested... silence

Big pharma has control over the Democrats... silence

RFK will Make America Healthy Again.... UGGHHH!

Vaccines are properly tested. That's what anti vax nitwits don't understand. Or they do understand it and refuse to believe it because the data show vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective. Vaccine are tested in clinical trials. They even publish the results publicly in peer reviewed journals.

So many idiots on the Internet can't understand it and will just say 'corruption!!!' when the trial data don't go their way.

DP. What is considered "proper" is widely debated. Many of us skeptics would like vaccines to be tested against inert placebos, instead of using other vaccines as a "control." We also are inherently suspicious of the "vaccine court" and its impartiality.

Personally, I won't trust vaccines until we get a longitudinal study with the current vax schedule, an older vax schedule and an unvaccinated control group. I suspect vaccine utility peaked decades ago, but no one will touch this with a 10-foot pole.

Please describe a clinical trial testing a vaccine against a placebo. Do you give 500 children the vaccine, 500 get the placebo, and expose them all to the disease and see which ones survive? I’m genuinely interested in your description of this trial.

lol. Clearly the PP is a clinician and understands the ethics…..


What a nutcase.