Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.
She called her mom that night in the middle of the night 3 times she knew what she did.
Lots of women call their moms multiple times a day or night. Whatever!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all of you following this case Please credit or discredit this possibility:
Karen drops john off. John starts to walk to the back gate to the basement stairs (by the flag pole) falls and cracks the back of his head on a rock and lays there dying. No one is responsible for this death.
Then why was her tail light broken and why was the first thing she assumed when she woke up that he was dead and maybe she hit him?
There is a video of her breaking her taillight while backing out at John's house.
When she hit him, or before the accident?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.
She called her mom that night in the middle of the night 3 times she knew what she did.
Lots of women call their moms multiple times a day or night. Whatever!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.
She called her mom that night in the middle of the night 3 times she knew what she did.
Lots of women call their moms multiple times a day or night. Whatever!
Anonymous wrote:But the Google search at 2:00 am and subsequent deletion of that? Rehoming your dog? Selling your home at a loss but still renovating the basement? Going to such extreme measures to get rid of phone evidence? The butt dials? Way too many coincidences. They know more about this then they are willing to say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.
She called her mom that night in the middle of the night 3 times she knew what she did.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all of you following this case Please credit or discredit this possibility:
Karen drops john off. John starts to walk to the back gate to the basement stairs (by the flag pole) falls and cracks the back of his head on a rock and lays there dying. No one is responsible for this death.
Way too easy. The broken lights from karens car was on his clothes and one piece os his hair was stuck in whats left of her tail light.cell phone data shows his body laid to rest the entire time by the flag pole not moving all night.
The tail light was found in his clothing after they had been bagged together. The clothing was not bagged and entered into evidence for a few weeks post-incident. No chain of custody was recording for the clothing. The clothing was laying in Proctor’s office drying out for a few weeks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why’d they find her Not Guilty? What happened exactly? What did the decision hinge on?
They didn't. It ended in a mistrial because the jury could not reach consensus.
Part of the issue is that the police investigation was totally mishandled. Also the medical examiner could not even say for sure what his cause of death was and there were experts who testified that his injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car. Even if she did hit his arm with the corner edge of her taillight, that's generally not enough to kill a person. A lot of things don't add up.
No, the jury DID reach consensus on two out of the three charges: they found her not guilty of murder and leaving the scene of an accident. They could not agree on involuntary manslaughter.
"there were experts who testified that his injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car."
THAT'S A LIE! PROOF From the first trial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIvS5yPxY0
Nice try though!
There is no “nice try” involved. The 1st jury found her not guilty of two out of three charges. Whether you think she hit him or not does not matter when it comes to that.
The charges are related.
1- she murdered on purpose. (NG)
2- she left the hit & run scene on purpose (NG)
3 - she killed him on accident, vehicular manslaughter, and wrecklessly/ drunk (mistrial)
They are related but considering 3 can be true and 1 and 2 false, three separate independent verdicts should have been rendered.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all of you following this case Please credit or discredit this possibility:
Karen drops john off. John starts to walk to the back gate to the basement stairs (by the flag pole) falls and cracks the back of his head on a rock and lays there dying. No one is responsible for this death.
Then why was her tail light broken and why was the first thing she assumed when she woke up that he was dead and maybe she hit him?
Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all of you following this case Please credit or discredit this possibility:
Karen drops john off. John starts to walk to the back gate to the basement stairs (by the flag pole) falls and cracks the back of his head on a rock and lays there dying. No one is responsible for this death.
Way too easy. The broken lights from karens car was on his clothes and one piece os his hair was stuck in whats left of her tail light.cell phone data shows his body laid to rest the entire time by the flag pole not moving all night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all of you following this case Please credit or discredit this possibility:
Karen drops john off. John starts to walk to the back gate to the basement stairs (by the flag pole) falls and cracks the back of his head on a rock and lays there dying. No one is responsible for this death.
Then why was her tail light broken and why was the first thing she assumed when she woke up that he was dead and maybe she hit him?
There is a video of her breaking her taillight while backing out at John's house.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why’d they find her Not Guilty? What happened exactly? What did the decision hinge on?
They didn't. It ended in a mistrial because the jury could not reach consensus.
Part of the issue is that the police investigation was totally mishandled. Also the medical examiner could not even say for sure what his cause of death was and there were experts who testified that his injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car. Even if she did hit his arm with the corner edge of her taillight, that's generally not enough to kill a person. A lot of things don't add up.
No, the jury DID reach consensus on two out of the three charges: they found her not guilty of murder and leaving the scene of an accident. They could not agree on involuntary manslaughter.
"there were experts who testified that his injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car."
THAT'S A LIE! PROOF From the first trial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIvS5yPxY0
Nice try though!
There is no “nice try” involved. The 1st jury found her not guilty of two out of three charges. Whether you think she hit him or not does not matter when it comes to that.
The charges are related.
1- she murdered on purpose. (NG)
2- she left the hit & run scene on purpose (NG)
3 - she killed him on accident, vehicular manslaughter, and wrecklessly/ drunk (mistrial)