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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The only way to be quotaed out is if there is a maximum quota per school. Do they have a list of admissions by school the past four years? Are Stone Hill Brambleton, and Eagle Ridge sitting at 20-25 every year?

Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit. There are three rounds of admission as not every initial offered kid within the initial quota accepts, nor do they fill all the slots. So they go back county-wide and now a school can have more than their initial 8-12 allotment.

Think about it, if a school has 8 spots by population, only 6 kids actually apply - those two empty spots have to go somewhere. Not every middle school has 50 Brambletonians applying.

If only 6 apply, they can't be quota-ed out. I am claiming that even if there are 50 applying at Brambleton(and it is much more) and even if 30 of them are scoring high on the county wide pool, they will not let #s 26-30 in because there is a maximum quota. Other Brambleton students would have to decline offers.

Again, you’re wrong. Read again.

You speak with such authority. How do you know this? As in, feel free to provide the link from which you are getting this information.

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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The only way to be quotaed out is if there is a maximum quota per school. Do they have a list of admissions by school the past four years? Are Stone Hill Brambleton, and Eagle Ridge sitting at 20-25 every year?

Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit. There are three rounds of admission as not every initial offered kid within the initial quota accepts, nor do they fill all the slots. So they go back county-wide and now a school can have more than their initial 8-12 allotment.

Think about it, if a school has 8 spots by population, only 6 kids actually apply - those two empty spots have to go somewhere. Not every middle school has 50 Brambletonians applying.

If only 6 apply, they can't be quota-ed out. I am claiming that even if there are 50 applying at Brambleton(and it is much more) and even if 30 of them are scoring high on the county wide pool, they will not let #s 26-30 in because there is a maximum quota. Other Brambleton students would have to decline offers.

Again, you’re wrong. Read again.

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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The only way to be quotaed out is if there is a maximum quota per school. Do they have a list of admissions by school the past four years? Are Stone Hill Brambleton, and Eagle Ridge sitting at 20-25 every year?

Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit. There are three rounds of admission as not every initial offered kid within the initial quota accepts, nor do they fill all the slots. So they go back county-wide and now a school can have more than their initial 8-12 allotment.

Think about it, if a school has 8 spots by population, only 6 kids actually apply - those two empty spots have to go somewhere. Not every middle school has 50 Brambletonians applying.

If only 6 apply, they can't be quota-ed out. I am claiming that even if there are 50 applying at Brambleton(and it is much more) and even if 30 of them are scoring high on the county wide pool, they will not let #s 26-30 in because there is a maximum quota. Other Brambleton students would have to decline offers.

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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The only way to be quotaed out is if there is a maximum quota per school. Do they have a list of admissions by school the past four years? Are Stone Hill Brambleton, and Eagle Ridge sitting at 20-25 every year?

Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit. There are three rounds of admission as not every initial offered kid within the initial quota accepts, nor do they fill all the slots. So they go back county-wide and now a school can have more than their initial 8-12 allotment.

Think about it, if a school has 8 spots by population, only 6 kids actually apply - those two empty spots have to go somewhere. Not every middle school has 50 Brambletonians applying.

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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The only way to be quotaed out is if there is a maximum quota per school. Do they have a list of admissions by school the past four years? Are Stone Hill Brambleton, and Eagle Ridge sitting at 20-25 every year?

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If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

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Anonymous wrote:anyone can confirm if there is a lottery in AOL admission process from any authentic info

I will share my experience and thoughts on this(will leave it to your judgement)) - It is not a lottery but there is ridiculous a school quota.

This is what happens :

For Kids from highly competitive schools in county: Kids with good grades A and A+, Algebra 2 and good essay skills and above average stem scores get waitlisted because the school quota is met and are put in waitlist as the number of students AOL can accept from that school is met. This year there were top kids from a MS who are on a waitlist due a difference of .05 avg of the stem critical thinking sections or worst thing AET pathway selection also impacts the admission .

For Kids from low competitive schools: Kids with average grades, Algebra 1 and avg essay skills and average stem scores get admissions.

This is one of the reason folks incorrectly refer to admissions as "Lottery".

Also lot of things are unclear

1) AOL says Essay is taken in criteria - No one shares the score
2) Waitlist ranking is complete mystery
3) For AET - Each year is different in sense how AET pathways selection effects the admission
IN 2022 Nov test taking class (2023 fall)- Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship got selected even with low stem critical thinking scores and AET IT pathways was tough. Also, Please add school qouta to the mix - it makes things worst
IN 2023 Nov test taking (2024 fall) - Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship did not get selected with awesome stem scores because everyone selected " engineering" as pathways and lot of kids with AET _IT Pathways got into with low scores.

This is another reason why folks refer to as "Lottery"( in my opinion.)

FOR AOS -- If your kid is interested in AOS and commute is not a problem then i would personally suggest TJ but if commute is not ok then AOS is similar to TJ. This year almost all the kids first preference was AET

4) It may seem unfair for the waitlisted kids as they have to wait painfully all summer but the reason for this being AOL admission office does not have any automated updates of kids dropping off due to TJ admissions or other reasons - This process moves slowly . To keep things in perspective - TJ waitlist process is smoother and faster.

So salty.

My kid from a “low competitive” school thumped yours out of the water. They don’t have average grades. Just because you live in a townhouse in Brambleton doesn’t make your kid smarter. This is a public, tax funded school. Students from all across the county should have an equal chance to compete with their peers in Middle school.

Again - since this is the same parent with bad grammar - none of what you said is true. If you want to tell yourself this to feel better, so ahead.

Not sure, what was salty in the original post. It looked like someone coming forward with their opinion to help others. Low of you to comment on person's language skills.

We’re talking about advanced placement schools and grammar doesn’t matter? Birds of a feather…

Sarcasm ? Salty guy was referring to OP Language's skills and not the test taking kid.

same parent posted three times in response. the copium is strong with Stone Hill and Brambleton parents

These schools and maybe a few more have had some kids lose spots just because they are at Stone Hill or Brambleton. For TJ admissions, Carson students are only restricted in that other schools have a minimum quota. BUt some of the Carson or Longfellow students would get an open allocation pool spot if they were at a different school, while in Loudoun there is a maximum quota per school for AOS and AET.

Again, this isn’t true. There is no maximum quota.

Top 20% of all applicants across the county get their choice - but they do count against the allocation cap for each middle school.

Next comes the middle school allocation (generally 8-12 per middle school).

Not every middle school fills all their slots, and kids don’t take the offers. Those spots go back into the pool, county-wide to determine next offer.

This myth that some middle schools have 30 kids that meet the criteria but only 10 accepted (as that is their middle school’s allocation based on population) is just that, a myth.

There may be a student at Harper Park or Harmony that didn’t make their school allocation cutoff but ALSO has higher rankings than the Brambleton 30 kid crew. You simply don’t know. There are smart, personable, and talented kids everywhere.

It’s also wildly offensive to think that way. If you didn’t get an offer the first time around, your kid got beat at their home school, and if you’re not getting a waitlist offer - there may be 50 kids in front of yours from all over the county.

Posting stem test scores from only 25% of the admission criteria gives a really flawed view of your expectations.

If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The reforms that were approved at the Aug 2020 school board meeting listed a maximum quota. Did they get rid of this?

2020 approvals were a one year covid rule.

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Anonymous wrote:anyone can confirm if there is a lottery in AOL admission process from any authentic info

I will share my experience and thoughts on this(will leave it to your judgement)) - It is not a lottery but there is ridiculous a school quota.

This is what happens :

For Kids from highly competitive schools in county: Kids with good grades A and A+, Algebra 2 and good essay skills and above average stem scores get waitlisted because the school quota is met and are put in waitlist as the number of students AOL can accept from that school is met. This year there were top kids from a MS who are on a waitlist due a difference of .05 avg of the stem critical thinking sections or worst thing AET pathway selection also impacts the admission .

For Kids from low competitive schools: Kids with average grades, Algebra 1 and avg essay skills and average stem scores get admissions.

This is one of the reason folks incorrectly refer to admissions as "Lottery".

Also lot of things are unclear

1) AOL says Essay is taken in criteria - No one shares the score
2) Waitlist ranking is complete mystery
3) For AET - Each year is different in sense how AET pathways selection effects the admission
IN 2022 Nov test taking class (2023 fall)- Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship got selected even with low stem critical thinking scores and AET IT pathways was tough. Also, Please add school qouta to the mix - it makes things worst
IN 2023 Nov test taking (2024 fall) - Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship did not get selected with awesome stem scores because everyone selected " engineering" as pathways and lot of kids with AET _IT Pathways got into with low scores.

This is another reason why folks refer to as "Lottery"( in my opinion.)

FOR AOS -- If your kid is interested in AOS and commute is not a problem then i would personally suggest TJ but if commute is not ok then AOS is similar to TJ. This year almost all the kids first preference was AET

4) It may seem unfair for the waitlisted kids as they have to wait painfully all summer but the reason for this being AOL admission office does not have any automated updates of kids dropping off due to TJ admissions or other reasons - This process moves slowly . To keep things in perspective - TJ waitlist process is smoother and faster.

So salty.

My kid from a “low competitive” school thumped yours out of the water. They don’t have average grades. Just because you live in a townhouse in Brambleton doesn’t make your kid smarter. This is a public, tax funded school. Students from all across the county should have an equal chance to compete with their peers in Middle school.

Again - since this is the same parent with bad grammar - none of what you said is true. If you want to tell yourself this to feel better, so ahead.

Not sure, what was salty in the original post. It looked like someone coming forward with their opinion to help others. Low of you to comment on person's language skills.

We’re talking about advanced placement schools and grammar doesn’t matter? Birds of a feather…

Sarcasm ? Salty guy was referring to OP Language's skills and not the test taking kid.

same parent posted three times in response. the copium is strong with Stone Hill and Brambleton parents

These schools and maybe a few more have had some kids lose spots just because they are at Stone Hill or Brambleton. For TJ admissions, Carson students are only restricted in that other schools have a minimum quota. BUt some of the Carson or Longfellow students would get an open allocation pool spot if they were at a different school, while in Loudoun there is a maximum quota per school for AOS and AET.

Again, this isn’t true. There is no maximum quota.

Top 20% of all applicants across the county get their choice - but they do count against the allocation cap for each middle school.

Next comes the middle school allocation (generally 8-12 per middle school).

Not every middle school fills all their slots, and kids don’t take the offers. Those spots go back into the pool, county-wide to determine next offer.

This myth that some middle schools have 30 kids that meet the criteria but only 10 accepted (as that is their middle school’s allocation based on population) is just that, a myth.

There may be a student at Harper Park or Harmony that didn’t make their school allocation cutoff but ALSO has higher rankings than the Brambleton 30 kid crew. You simply don’t know. There are smart, personable, and talented kids everywhere.

It’s also wildly offensive to think that way. If you didn’t get an offer the first time around, your kid got beat at their home school, and if you’re not getting a waitlist offer - there may be 50 kids in front of yours from all over the county.

Posting stem test scores from only 25% of the admission criteria gives a really flawed view of your expectations.

If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

The reforms that were approved at the Aug 2020 school board meeting listed a maximum quota. Did they get rid of this?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyone can confirm if there is a lottery in AOL admission process from any authentic info

I will share my experience and thoughts on this(will leave it to your judgement)) - It is not a lottery but there is ridiculous a school quota.

This is what happens :

For Kids from highly competitive schools in county: Kids with good grades A and A+, Algebra 2 and good essay skills and above average stem scores get waitlisted because the school quota is met and are put in waitlist as the number of students AOL can accept from that school is met. This year there were top kids from a MS who are on a waitlist due a difference of .05 avg of the stem critical thinking sections or worst thing AET pathway selection also impacts the admission .

For Kids from low competitive schools: Kids with average grades, Algebra 1 and avg essay skills and average stem scores get admissions.

This is one of the reason folks incorrectly refer to admissions as "Lottery".

Also lot of things are unclear

1) AOL says Essay is taken in criteria - No one shares the score
2) Waitlist ranking is complete mystery
3) For AET - Each year is different in sense how AET pathways selection effects the admission
IN 2022 Nov test taking class (2023 fall)- Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship got selected even with low stem critical thinking scores and AET IT pathways was tough. Also, Please add school qouta to the mix - it makes things worst
IN 2023 Nov test taking (2024 fall) - Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship did not get selected with awesome stem scores because everyone selected " engineering" as pathways and lot of kids with AET _IT Pathways got into with low scores.

This is another reason why folks refer to as "Lottery"( in my opinion.)

FOR AOS -- If your kid is interested in AOS and commute is not a problem then i would personally suggest TJ but if commute is not ok then AOS is similar to TJ. This year almost all the kids first preference was AET

4) It may seem unfair for the waitlisted kids as they have to wait painfully all summer but the reason for this being AOL admission office does not have any automated updates of kids dropping off due to TJ admissions or other reasons - This process moves slowly . To keep things in perspective - TJ waitlist process is smoother and faster.

So salty.

My kid from a “low competitive” school thumped yours out of the water. They don’t have average grades. Just because you live in a townhouse in Brambleton doesn’t make your kid smarter. This is a public, tax funded school. Students from all across the county should have an equal chance to compete with their peers in Middle school.

Again - since this is the same parent with bad grammar - none of what you said is true. If you want to tell yourself this to feel better, so ahead.

Not sure, what was salty in the original post. It looked like someone coming forward with their opinion to help others. Low of you to comment on person's language skills.

We’re talking about advanced placement schools and grammar doesn’t matter? Birds of a feather…

Sarcasm ? Salty guy was referring to OP Language's skills and not the test taking kid.

same parent posted three times in response. the copium is strong with Stone Hill and Brambleton parents

These schools and maybe a few more have had some kids lose spots just because they are at Stone Hill or Brambleton. For TJ admissions, Carson students are only restricted in that other schools have a minimum quota. BUt some of the Carson or Longfellow students would get an open allocation pool spot if they were at a different school, while in Loudoun there is a maximum quota per school for AOS and AET.

Again, this isn’t true. There is no maximum quota.

Top 20% of all applicants across the county get their choice - but they do count against the allocation cap for each middle school.

Next comes the middle school allocation (generally 8-12 per middle school).

Not every middle school fills all their slots, and kids don’t take the offers. Those spots go back into the pool, county-wide to determine next offer.

This myth that some middle schools have 30 kids that meet the criteria but only 10 accepted (as that is their middle school’s allocation based on population) is just that, a myth.

There may be a student at Harper Park or Harmony that didn’t make their school allocation cutoff but ALSO has higher rankings than the Brambleton 30 kid crew. You simply don’t know. There are smart, personable, and talented kids everywhere.

It’s also wildly offensive to think that way. If you didn’t get an offer the first time around, your kid got beat at their home school, and if you’re not getting a waitlist offer - there may be 50 kids in front of yours from all over the county.

Posting stem test scores from only 25% of the admission criteria gives a really flawed view of your expectations.

If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyone can confirm if there is a lottery in AOL admission process from any authentic info

I will share my experience and thoughts on this(will leave it to your judgement)) - It is not a lottery but there is ridiculous a school quota.

This is what happens :

For Kids from highly competitive schools in county: Kids with good grades A and A+, Algebra 2 and good essay skills and above average stem scores get waitlisted because the school quota is met and are put in waitlist as the number of students AOL can accept from that school is met. This year there were top kids from a MS who are on a waitlist due a difference of .05 avg of the stem critical thinking sections or worst thing AET pathway selection also impacts the admission .

For Kids from low competitive schools: Kids with average grades, Algebra 1 and avg essay skills and average stem scores get admissions.

This is one of the reason folks incorrectly refer to admissions as "Lottery".

Also lot of things are unclear

1) AOL says Essay is taken in criteria - No one shares the score
2) Waitlist ranking is complete mystery
3) For AET - Each year is different in sense how AET pathways selection effects the admission
IN 2022 Nov test taking class (2023 fall)- Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship got selected even with low stem critical thinking scores and AET IT pathways was tough. Also, Please add school qouta to the mix - it makes things worst
IN 2023 Nov test taking (2024 fall) - Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship did not get selected with awesome stem scores because everyone selected " engineering" as pathways and lot of kids with AET _IT Pathways got into with low scores.

This is another reason why folks refer to as "Lottery"( in my opinion.)

FOR AOS -- If your kid is interested in AOS and commute is not a problem then i would personally suggest TJ but if commute is not ok then AOS is similar to TJ. This year almost all the kids first preference was AET

4) It may seem unfair for the waitlisted kids as they have to wait painfully all summer but the reason for this being AOL admission office does not have any automated updates of kids dropping off due to TJ admissions or other reasons - This process moves slowly . To keep things in perspective - TJ waitlist process is smoother and faster.

So salty.

My kid from a “low competitive” school thumped yours out of the water. They don’t have average grades. Just because you live in a townhouse in Brambleton doesn’t make your kid smarter. This is a public, tax funded school. Students from all across the county should have an equal chance to compete with their peers in Middle school.

Again - since this is the same parent with bad grammar - none of what you said is true. If you want to tell yourself this to feel better, so ahead.

Not sure, what was salty in the original post. It looked like someone coming forward with their opinion to help others. Low of you to comment on person's language skills.

We’re talking about advanced placement schools and grammar doesn’t matter? Birds of a feather…

Sarcasm ? Salty guy was referring to OP Language's skills and not the test taking kid.

same parent posted three times in response. the copium is strong with Stone Hill and Brambleton parents

These schools and maybe a few more have had some kids lose spots just because they are at Stone Hill or Brambleton. For TJ admissions, Carson students are only restricted in that other schools have a minimum quota. BUt some of the Carson or Longfellow students would get an open allocation pool spot if they were at a different school, while in Loudoun there is a maximum quota per school for AOS and AET.

Again, this isn’t true. There is no maximum quota.

Top 20% of all applicants across the county get their choice - but they do count against the allocation cap for each middle school.

Next comes the middle school allocation (generally 8-12 per middle school).

Not every middle school fills all their slots, and kids don’t take the offers. Those spots go back into the pool, county-wide to determine next offer.

This myth that some middle schools have 30 kids that meet the criteria but only 10 accepted (as that is their middle school’s allocation based on population) is just that, a myth.

There may be a student at Harper Park or Harmony that didn’t make their school allocation cutoff but ALSO has higher rankings than the Brambleton 30 kid crew. You simply don’t know. There are smart, personable, and talented kids everywhere.

It’s also wildly offensive to think that way. If you didn’t get an offer the first time around, your kid got beat at their home school, and if you’re not getting a waitlist offer - there may be 50 kids in front of yours from all over the county.

Posting stem test scores from only 25% of the admission criteria gives a really flawed view of your expectations.

If you think your kid was quota-ed out at your home middle school, then they should be geniuses enough to get a county-wide offer, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyone can confirm if there is a lottery in AOL admission process from any authentic info

I will share my experience and thoughts on this(will leave it to your judgement)) - It is not a lottery but there is ridiculous a school quota.

This is what happens :

For Kids from highly competitive schools in county: Kids with good grades A and A+, Algebra 2 and good essay skills and above average stem scores get waitlisted because the school quota is met and are put in waitlist as the number of students AOL can accept from that school is met. This year there were top kids from a MS who are on a waitlist due a difference of .05 avg of the stem critical thinking sections or worst thing AET pathway selection also impacts the admission .

For Kids from low competitive schools: Kids with average grades, Algebra 1 and avg essay skills and average stem scores get admissions.

This is one of the reason folks incorrectly refer to admissions as "Lottery".

Also lot of things are unclear

1) AOL says Essay is taken in criteria - No one shares the score
2) Waitlist ranking is complete mystery
3) For AET - Each year is different in sense how AET pathways selection effects the admission
IN 2022 Nov test taking class (2023 fall)- Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship got selected even with low stem critical thinking scores and AET IT pathways was tough. Also, Please add school qouta to the mix - it makes things worst
IN 2023 Nov test taking (2024 fall) - Kids who selected Engineering/Entrepreneurship did not get selected with awesome stem scores because everyone selected " engineering" as pathways and lot of kids with AET _IT Pathways got into with low scores.

This is another reason why folks refer to as "Lottery"( in my opinion.)

FOR AOS -- If your kid is interested in AOS and commute is not a problem then i would personally suggest TJ but if commute is not ok then AOS is similar to TJ. This year almost all the kids first preference was AET

4) It may seem unfair for the waitlisted kids as they have to wait painfully all summer but the reason for this being AOL admission office does not have any automated updates of kids dropping off due to TJ admissions or other reasons - This process moves slowly . To keep things in perspective - TJ waitlist process is smoother and faster.

So salty.

My kid from a “low competitive” school thumped yours out of the water. They don’t have average grades. Just because you live in a townhouse in Brambleton doesn’t make your kid smarter. This is a public, tax funded school. Students from all across the county should have an equal chance to compete with their peers in Middle school.

Again - since this is the same parent with bad grammar - none of what you said is true. If you want to tell yourself this to feel better, so ahead.

Not sure, what was salty in the original post. It looked like someone coming forward with their opinion to help others. Low of you to comment on person's language skills.

We’re talking about advanced placement schools and grammar doesn’t matter? Birds of a feather…

Sarcasm ? Salty guy was referring to OP Language's skills and not the test taking kid.

same parent posted three times in response. the copium is strong with Stone Hill and Brambleton parents

These schools and maybe a few more have had some kids lose spots just because they are at Stone Hill or Brambleton. For TJ admissions, Carson students are only restricted in that other schools have a minimum quota. BUt some of the Carson or Longfellow students would get an open allocation pool spot if they were at a different school, while in Loudoun there is a maximum quota per school for AOS and AET.