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Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.

I am another teacher and respect that you do this. But all of the teachers I know take most of the summer off and are not working. A few do summer school. Otherwise they are not working 20-30 hours a week.

That’s your anecdote but I am also a teacher and all the ones I know plan for next year, do summer school, or a camp. Many do work if they actually want to ever afford to not have to rent.

Fine. I was countering the fact that someone said “most of us” plan during the summer in reference to teachers. My anecdote is just as valid as yours. And most teachers do not plan 20-30 hours a week over the summer.

DP. And from my experience (my circle of teachers), most of us do. Perhaps it’s based on grade level or type of teacher. I’m high school and I teach courses that require additional recertification. I also am responsible for my own curriculum to a greater degree.

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Anonymous wrote:its a hard job and the DC area is expensive. there is lots of turnover. yes teachers are more highly paid here than in most of the country- but it would be very bad for schools to change that.

Agree. I still posit that teachers are underpaid given the value add of (good) public education to society.
$35k/year is criminal, but $80k-100k is low in a high COL area like DC.

Coming from a wealthy suburb in the NYC metro where the useless school admin bureaucrats were paid $300k+ year while the actual teachers made 1/3 of that (AND they still asked for donations for school supplies??!!) I want to see that money redirected towards the people actually educating our kids and towards classrooms.

Our priorities are all backwards in this country, we easily pay 6 figure entry-level IT salaries and cry about teachers getting that much, we can do better. I guarantee that the value add to society of a Jr data scientist in Deloitte is FAR less than an elementary school teacher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its a hard job and the DC area is expensive. there is lots of turnover. yes teachers are more highly paid here than in most of the country- but it would be very bad for schools to change that.

Agree. I still posit that teachers are underpaid given the value add of (good) public education to society.
$35k/year is criminal, but $80k-100k is low in a high COL area like DC.

Coming from a wealthy suburb in the NYC metro where the useless school admin bureaucrats were paid $300k+ year while the actual teachers made 1/3 of that (AND they still asked for donations for school supplies??!!) I want to see that money redirected towards the people actually educating our kids and towards classrooms.

Our priorities are all backwards in this country, we easily pay 6 figure entry-level IT salaries and cry about teachers getting that much, we can do better. I guarantee that the value add to society of a Jr data scientist in Deloitte is FAR less than an elementary school teacher.

Anonymous wrote:its a hard job and the DC area is expensive. there is lots of turnover. yes teachers are more highly paid here than in most of the country- but it would be very bad for schools to change that.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.

I am another teacher and respect that you do this. But all of the teachers I know take most of the summer off and are not working. A few do summer school. Otherwise they are not working 20-30 hours a week.

That’s your anecdote but I am also a teacher and all the ones I know plan for next year, do summer school, or a camp. Many do work if they actually want to ever afford to not have to rent.

Fine. I was countering the fact that someone said “most of us” plan during the summer in reference to teachers. My anecdote is just as valid as yours. And most teachers do not plan 20-30 hours a week over the summer.

DP. And from my experience (my circle of teachers), most of us do. Perhaps it’s based on grade level or type of teacher. I’m high school and I teach courses that require additional recertification. I also am responsible for my own curriculum to a greater degree.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.

I am another teacher and respect that you do this. But all of the teachers I know take most of the summer off and are not working. A few do summer school. Otherwise they are not working 20-30 hours a week.

That’s your anecdote but I am also a teacher and all the ones I know plan for next year, do summer school, or a camp. Many do work if they actually want to ever afford to not have to rent.

Fine. I was countering the fact that someone said “most of us” plan during the summer in reference to teachers. My anecdote is just as valid as yours. And most teachers do not plan 20-30 hours a week over the summer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.

I am another teacher and respect that you do this. But all of the teachers I know take most of the summer off and are not working. A few do summer school. Otherwise they are not working 20-30 hours a week.

That’s your anecdote but I am also a teacher and all the ones I know plan for next year, do summer school, or a camp. Many do work if they actually want to ever afford to not have to rent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.

I am another teacher and respect that you do this. But all of the teachers I know take most of the summer off and are not working. A few do summer school. Otherwise they are not working 20-30 hours a week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? I “work” for 10 months? How about the time I spend all summer planning, taking classes, planning, planning, and then planning some more. I work 13 months a year. Not complaining, simply explaining.

D. Goldfarb
Banneker AJS

Another teacher here. I also spent most of my summer planning and taking classes. I’m actually taking a break right now from yet another class, trying to get it done before the students arrive.

There’s a major misconception about summers. For many of us, it just means a more casual workday during which we can visit the bathroom when we want.

I won’t claim I’ve worked 40 hour weeks, it 20-30 hours a week (without pay) is accurate.