Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:45     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:Biden should just issue an Executive Order saying felons can’t run for president. Biden should disband SCOTUS as his first official act as King. He should take away their power, apply term limits, and prosecute the Insurrectionist’s wives. And don’t forget to get Seal Team 6 on the schedule.

Based.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:44     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:DOJ "independence" was always a norm, never a law or regulation.

Norms are done in the United States. If it's not a federal law with very explicit text, it's fair game.

Hopefully the Democrats in power wake up to that reality.

The problem with the Constitution is that it was written by men who believed that people would always deal in good faith.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:42     Subject: The President is Above the Law
DOJ "independence" was always a norm, never a law or regulation.

Norms are done in the United States. If it's not a federal law with very explicit text, it's fair game.

Hopefully the Democrats in power wake up to that reality.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:40     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Biden should just issue an Executive Order saying felons can’t run for president. Biden should disband SCOTUS as his first official act as King. He should take away their power, apply term limits, and prosecute the Insurrectionist’s wives. And don’t forget to get Seal Team 6 on the schedule.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:36     Subject: Re:The President is Above the Law
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Anonymous wrote:Bye, bye DOJ independence



The DOJ has always been consulted to determine if a presidents actions are lawful or not. Remember when Obama went back and forth with his DOJ about what he could legally do about the Dreamers?


That's not the point. The DOJ has traditionally been independent from the White House when making criminal prosecution decisions - it's one of our democratic norms followed by Presidents of both parties. That is now gone. Kaput.

The President can now order DOJ to investigate/prosecute whoever he likes, with no fear of prosecution. You might to read what Nixon did - the Supreme Court now says that's OK.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/28/politics/justice-department-interference/index.html


Or refrain from investigating/prosecuting
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:35     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so twisted they don't realize the court just protected Biden, not the other way around.



This.

Now, did the court protect Biden handlers, the ones calling the shots these days?

That's a more interesting question.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:35     Subject: Re:The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bye, bye DOJ independence



The DOJ has always been consulted to determine if a presidents actions are lawful or not. Remember when Obama went back and forth with his DOJ about what he could legally do about the Dreamers?


That's not the point. The DOJ has traditionally been independent from the White House when making criminal prosecution decisions - it's one of our democratic norms followed by Presidents of both parties. That is now gone. Kaput.

The President can now order DOJ to investigate/prosecute whoever he likes, with no fear of prosecution. You might to read what Nixon did - the Supreme Court now says that's OK.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/28/politics/justice-department-interference/index.html
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:33     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:So, what’s stopping Biden from drone striking Mar A Lago (and Trump in it) right now for the sake of national security concerns?

I like you!!
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:33     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so twisted they don't realize the court just protected Biden, not the other way around.


I don't care who they protected; the concept of no man being above the law has gone right out the window.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:32     Subject: The President is Above the Law
So, what’s stopping Biden from drone striking Mar A Lago (and Trump in it) right now for the sake of national security concerns?
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:30     Subject: Re:The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:Bye, bye DOJ independence



The DOJ is an executive agency and the president is the chief of the executive branch. Policies created by bureaucrats in recent decades are not sacred and do not trump the system as outlined in the constitution.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:30     Subject: Re:The President is Above the Law
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Anonymous wrote:The President is Commander-in-Chief of the military - that is a core Constitutional duty which gives the President absolute immunity from criminal prosecution.

So, yes, POTUS can order them to do anything, including using Seal Team 6 to assassinate political opponents. Because the opinion also says that one cannot inquire into motives when dividing official acts from unofficial acts.


A burglary got impeached; a sexual affair got impeached; a phone call got impeached but somehow Biden assassinating Trump with Seal Team 6 goes ahead untouched. This isn't Game of Thrones. The 3 justices are so out of touch as to be incompetent.


If the Supreme Court says a President isn't criminally liable for an act, how could it be a "high crime" subject to impeachment?



This goes back to whether you can impeach someone for something he was never even charged with much less convicted of.


Impeachment was only ever about getting unfit people out of office and never about the criminality. That is why the Dems didn't vote to remove Clinton - lying about sex is bad, but it wasn't an act that was worthy of removal from office. Trump should have been removed for his trying to bribe the Ukranian president for personal gain. But the GOP chose not to, so here we are. Trump should have also been barred for seeking the presidency again by vote of the Senate in February 2021. But McConnell and the GOP side basically said, he is out of office and can now be held criminally liable for his actions. But the SCOTUS just removed that, so Trump is no immune because he will be able to argue that ANYTHING he did during his tenure in the White House, was a part of his duties. So staging a coup, taking out political opponents, blackmailing foreign leaders - all immune according to the SCOTUS.



Not the Clinton lies again. He was impeached for lying about sex, he was impeached for perjury.


And the perjury was about....?


His unwillingness to be truthful in a court of law.

Don’t play word games. He wasn’t impeached for lying to the American people (although he did). It was for what he said under oath.


And what he said or didn't say was pertaining to sex. Let's be clear about it.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:29     Subject: The President is Above the Law
DCUM is so twisted they don't realize the court just protected Biden, not the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:29     Subject: The President is Above the Law
Well, 240 years is a pretty good run, as empires go.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2024 11:28     Subject: Re:The President is Above the Law
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The President is Commander-in-Chief of the military - that is a core Constitutional duty which gives the President absolute immunity from criminal prosecution.

So, yes, POTUS can order them to do anything, including using Seal Team 6 to assassinate political opponents. Because the opinion also says that one cannot inquire into motives when dividing official acts from unofficial acts.


A burglary got impeached; a sexual affair got impeached; a phone call got impeached but somehow Biden assassinating Trump with Seal Team 6 goes ahead untouched. This isn't Game of Thrones. The 3 justices are so out of touch as to be incompetent.


If the Supreme Court says a President isn't criminally liable for an act, how could it be a "high crime" subject to impeachment?



This goes back to whether you can impeach someone for something he was never even charged with much less convicted of.


Impeachment was only ever about getting unfit people out of office and never about the criminality. That is why the Dems didn't vote to remove Clinton - lying about sex is bad, but it wasn't an act that was worthy of removal from office. Trump should have been removed for his trying to bribe the Ukranian president for personal gain. But the GOP chose not to, so here we are. Trump should have also been barred for seeking the presidency again by vote of the Senate in February 2021. But McConnell and the GOP side basically said, he is out of office and can now be held criminally liable for his actions. But the SCOTUS just removed that, so Trump is no immune because he will be able to argue that ANYTHING he did during his tenure in the White House, was a part of his duties. So staging a coup, taking out political opponents, blackmailing foreign leaders - all immune according to the SCOTUS.



Not the Clinton lies again. He was impeached for lying about sex, he was impeached for perjury.


And the perjury was about....?


His unwillingness to be truthful in a court of law.

Don’t play word games. He wasn’t impeached for lying to the American people (although he did). It was for what he said under oath.