Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:49
Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:A college education has the most impact for the non wealthy, so this ranking list makes more sense
So this new ranking works best for the poor - and that's fine. I'll bet that many (if not most) on DCUM don't fit that category though.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:49
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:I think the new methodology removing class rank raises a legit issue about the ranking removing too many academic-focused factors, but by the same token, the class size and alumni engagement factors were too easily gamed by a lot of private schools and artificially propped them up.
Ultimately, I think the new rankings overall are better in clarifying, “Which schools are actually worth paying $90,000 per year over our in-state flagship?” The rankings still indicate that there’s a clear difference by going to an Ivy or its other peers in the top 20-ish, but maybe people will be dissuaded from thinking that paying a lot extra for, say, Tufts or Wake Forest is going to result in materially different outcomes compared to many of the major public flagships.
I disagree, if you want small class sizes, more professors with phds, and more money spent per student, you are going to get that at Wake or Tufts over Rutgers.
If you care more about social mobility, pick Rutgers.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:45
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The irony here is that the public schools produce more social mobility only for in state students who are already applying in droves. Most charge private school tuition at full freight to out of staters.
UCLA and Cal charge roughly $20K less per year than most of the top 25 privates. My DD is at UCLA and her tuition is lower than the DC private school that she graduated from!
But you also have to pay for room and board. UCLA itself lists total cost of attendance at $71,000 for out of state.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:45
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
If you don’t think that dropping to 24 is going to cause a lot of potential applicants to look elsewhere you’re crazy.
This! Top 15 to Top 25 is a big difference. Emory and CMU were already T25, so students that were interested before will still be interested.
Please elaborate what the difference is? I can pay full tuition for my kids and I make no apologies for that. I'm an immigrant and a person of color and started with nothing and worked hard to achieve what I have today. I don't choose a college whether it went up or down some on one USNWR ranking. For us, fit and quality of education is most important, not number of Pell Grants.
WashU students care about rankings moreso than other students. Especially since the school is in horrible St Louis, and there's no smD1 sports. WashU relies on being top 20.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:41
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are you talking about?
24 < 25
Did you take any math classes in your life?
Anonymous wrote:It is noticeable that all the top publics went up in rankings except for one. Only UVA went down and out of top 25. Wonder why?
No. It’s at 24.
I thought UVA was at 26?
It is at 26. Went from 25 to 26.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:40
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
"You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone."
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:39
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
If you don’t think that dropping to 24 is going to cause a lot of potential applicants to look elsewhere you’re crazy.
Columbia dropped from 2 to 18 after they were caught falsifying data given to US News, and they were fine. I think WashU will be fine too.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:38
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
BC now ahead of Tufts. It’s one thing to be looking up at Harvard & MIT, but the Jumbos never saw this day coming.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:36
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
If you don’t think that dropping to 24 is going to cause a lot of potential applicants to look elsewhere you’re crazy.
This! Top 15 to Top 25 is a big difference. Emory and CMU were already T25, so students that were interested before will still be interested.
Please elaborate what the difference is? I can pay full tuition for my kids and I make no apologies for that. I'm an immigrant and a person of color and started with nothing and worked hard to achieve what I have today. I don't choose a college whether it went up or down some on one USNWR ranking. For us, fit and quality of education is most important, not number of Pell Grants.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:35
Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
A college education has the most impact for the non wealthy, so this ranking list makes more sense
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:32
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
If you don’t think that dropping to 24 is going to cause a lot of potential applicants to look elsewhere you’re crazy.
Based on one ranking list? What are you smoking? You're assuming that most applicants are like sheep and can't think for themselves and will not apply to a good private based on one year's rank. I'd say that all the top 30 (and probably top 50) schools are great schools. It also seems like you have an agenda or axe to grind (even though you'll deny it).
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:30
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
If you don’t think that dropping to 24 is going to cause a lot of potential applicants to look elsewhere you’re crazy.
This! Top 15 to Top 25 is a big difference. Emory and CMU were already T25, so students that were interested before will still be interested.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:30
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:“ Half our neighborhood is attending UMich currently…”
Congrats for the most ridiculous comment of the day thus far!
If she lives in Arlington, no, it’s not. 6 out of 10 kids in the blocks surrounding us are at UMich or recently graduated.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:29
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm oddly joyous to see all the Southern private schools drop like flies in the rankings. Vanderbilt, WashU, Rice, Tulane, Emory, Wake Forest all down. As much as I hate to say it, I think Duke is basically carrying the reputation of the entire region, or it would be the foremost educational backwater of the US by a wide margin.
You didn't do to well in geography lessons, did you?
None of the Top 25 privates fell out the T25. Unlike West coasts USC.
NYU?
However the last thing I would worry about are these two schools.
USC is actually doing pretty well.
A lot of people claimed it'll get kicked out of T30 without knowing what they are talking about.
I meant the southern T25, Duke, Rice, Vandy, Emory. That's what pp and I were discussing. I said the west coast schools are doing great outside of UCs. But yea NYU too.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 10:27
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People only went to Washu because it was T15. Apps are going to crater this year and next.
Nice try
Try what, I actually feel bad for WashU. I don't think 9 spot drop is fair.