Anonymous
09/18/2023 07:34
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Before renting can a renter find out if the complex houses section 8 voucher residents?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 07:05
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Call and write Frumin and the mayor’s office, too. Ask them to act. Don’t just throw up your hands.
There have been many meetings with ANCs, Cheh, government officials, MPD re: these issues for years. Groups of concerned residents have met with Bowser. The WP has written many articles since the Sedgewick Garden series in 2019. Things have only gotten worse. There is so much money in play and so many layers of corruption. Frumin ran on a platform to expand affordable housing.
The poster who said more buildings will tip to become majority voucher until some point in the future when everyone will be moved out to reno and flip to condos may well be correct.
An important interim step would be to ask the ANCs to vote on resolutions supporting a moratorium on new vouchers until the city can develop reforms to this program. Frankly, the ANCs are stocked with many crazy leftists who are supportive of all these progressive concepts run amok. The ANCs need to be put on record for the voters to see.
Good idea.
If you look at the ANC3C agenda for the meeting next week, there are resolutions related to parking on Connecticut Avenue, the bike lanes initiative on Connecticut Avenue, and the development guidelines for Cleveland Park/Woodley Park, but zero on exploring the voucher issue and nothing on safety, with the exception of 10 minutes set aside to discuss potentially establishing a public safety committee. Discussion of the resolutions is a farce because all but one of the commissioners vote as a bloc and they will approve the resolutions, no matter what public input they receive. A voucher moratorium request will never come from this ANC.
By not supporting a moratorium the ANCs are literally putting the interests of nonresidents over residents. The voters need to know this.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 23:32
Subject: Re:Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/home-front/from-0-to-7000-one-dc-agency-charts-voucher-renters-in-its-programs-since-2016/
Also links to this article:
https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/home-front/apartment-updates-new-nuisance-building-at-van-ness-tenant-leaders-request-meeting-with-mayor/
Which talks about tenant leaders meeting with Frumin to discuss these problems in May of 2022. It's now over a year later, and he doesn't have a plan.
Has any District leader said what the end goal of the voucher program is? Can homeless people just move to D.C., stay a year, and then get the District to pay for their upper NW apartments for life? We had ~4,000 homeless people living D.C. in 2015:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/with-4000-in-homeless-shelters-dc-on-pace-to-eclipse-record-set-last-year/2015/01/29/e74de4ca-a7c4-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html
https://streetsensemedia.org/article/single-adult-shelters-issues-briefiing-dc/
Now we have more than twice that amount of vouchers alone (and when you consider one voucher could be for a family with multiple individuals, we're talking about an even larger number). More than 1.2% of the population, and the number has been growing every year.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 22:09
Subject: Re:Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
“It is next to impossible to get a complete picture of the huge growth in the use of housing vouchers in our neighborhood,” said Harry Gural, the president of the 3003 Van Ness tenants association. “The Bowser administration has provided only partial data. The DC Housing Authority has repeatedly rejected requests for data.”
Gural and other tenant leaders have done some additional data collection of their own. Long before the HUD audit of DCHA, they found evidence that DC was overpaying many of the landlords receiving rent subsidies.
“The public deserves to have substantial, accurate information about the city’s housing voucher programs,” Gural told Forest Hills Connection.
https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/home-front/from-0-to-7000-one-dc-agency-charts-voucher-renters-in-its-programs-since-2016/
Anonymous
09/17/2023 22:07
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
The table was linked on a local list serve by a neighbor how is very involved in housing issues. Per The Forest Hills Connect, the city provided data varies and is hard to match up. The programs are a mess in many ways including reported data. Several different agencies issue vouchers which may be part of the issue.
https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/home-front/from-0-to-7000-one-dc-agency-charts-voucher-renters-in-its-programs-since-2016/
https://www.foresthillsconnection.com/home-front/from-0-to-7000-one-dc-agency-charts-voucher-renters-in-its-programs-since-2016/
Anonymous
09/17/2023 21:38
Subject: Re:Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
When I look at the data in the link, it appears there are 428 vouchers for all of Ward 3 and that there were about a bit more than 3300 vouchers throughout all of DC as of year end 2022. This differs from the table above.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 21:27
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Call and write Frumin and the mayor’s office, too. Ask them to act. Don’t just throw up your hands.
There have been many meetings with ANCs, Cheh, government officials, MPD re: these issues for years. Groups of concerned residents have met with Bowser. The WP has written many articles since the Sedgewick Garden series in 2019. Things have only gotten worse. There is so much money in play and so many layers of corruption. Frumin ran on a platform to expand affordable housing.
The poster who said more buildings will tip to become majority voucher until some point in the future when everyone will be moved out to reno and flip to condos may well be correct.
An important interim step would be to ask the ANCs to vote on resolutions supporting a moratorium on new vouchers until the city can develop reforms to this program. Frankly, the ANCs are stocked with many crazy leftists who are supportive of all these progressive concepts run amok. The ANCs need to be put on record for the voters to see.
Putting ANC who have no power "on the record" is fairly ineffectual in actually advancing change re: the voucher program.
can congress intervene? I thought there were hearings on crime this summer. We need the "oversight". Though if this is a HUD driven program, then we need them to change those parameters.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 21:20
Subject: Re:Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous
09/17/2023 20:34
Subject: Re:Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
This post was part of a neighborhood list discussion re: the voucher issues
For all of those who parrot "the city needs to provide services!" remember that participation in those services is completely voluntary under Housing First. Imagine the person described above living next to your elderly mom or in a condo next to a family you may know from Franklin or Murch, where your child might go for a playdate.
This is not only a problem for apartment buildings. The DC government has been calling people who post their condos for rent to see if they'll accept a voucher. Being nice people wanting to help, my neighbors took the bait and paid dearly. The mentally ill and violent resident the DC government put in their unit severely assaulted her neighbor and was arrested multiple times during COVID for threatening other residents with a baseball bat. She did damage to hallways and ended up costing the building more than $60,000 in damages and security. The resident was finally removed through a very lengthy court process (during COVID they wouldn't allow evictions for any reason). The owners of the unit were forced to sell. These people need serious help and I feel for their situation, but you should think of the potential consequences for you and your neighbors.
For all of those who parrot "the city needs to provide services!" remember that participation in those services is completely voluntary under Housing First. Imagine the person described above living next to your elderly mom or in a condo next to a family you may know from Franklin or Murch, where your child might go for a playdate.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 17:58
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree. And many in AU Park, Forest Hills and SV support all of the above and "like the sound of" restorative justice. Removing the penalty of losing license for not paying traffic fines was another issue where Cheh raised concerns but voted for it anyway, and we've seen more mayhem on the streets.
This is it. A lot of people in these areas want to appear "with it," and will follow wherever the activists tell them to go. Some neighbors will quietly tell you they disagree with the craziness, but few have the courage to risk the wrath of the radicals. Look how often people get accused of being racist on here just for saying they want less crime (something polls show is the top issue for D.C. residents).
That's how bullies are being handled - with meek acquiescence. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are willing to move out of the area than to stand up for it.
People are only willing to speak up about what's right when these failures really hit home. But by the time most people are willing to speak up, it's going to take years to dig ourselves out of this hole and get back to where things were a decade ago.
And many of the newly elected ANC reps ran on the Connecticut Ave NW bike agenda. They have no clue how to handle crime.
This. And Frumin and his staff seem to be far down the learning curve re: vouchers. He could/would have hired staff with more expertise if his stated goal was not to have MORE affordable housing in Ward 3.
This happened this afternoon right up on Wisconsin near Target
Anonymous
09/17/2023 17:55
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Keep voting the same way.
Electable people with different views need to run. Allen was unopposed. There was no meaningful opposition to Bowser re: crime, you think Robert White would have been better on the issue? Trayon is outspoken re: crime but not all that electable. This platitude that blames those who had no meaningful choice is tired. Do better. And MoCo with pols who want to outlaw all traffic stops and Arlington, rolling out RJ, are not all that different. Whole region is declining in quality of life due to soft prosecutors and soft judges and weakened laws, esp re: violent crime by juveniles.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 17:36
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree. And many in AU Park, Forest Hills and SV support all of the above and "like the sound of" restorative justice. Removing the penalty of losing license for not paying traffic fines was another issue where Cheh raised concerns but voted for it anyway, and we've seen more mayhem on the streets.
This is it. A lot of people in these areas want to appear "with it," and will follow wherever the activists tell them to go. Some neighbors will quietly tell you they disagree with the craziness, but few have the courage to risk the wrath of the radicals. Look how often people get accused of being racist on here just for saying they want less crime (something polls show is the top issue for D.C. residents).
That's how bullies are being handled - with meek acquiescence. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are willing to move out of the area than to stand up for it.
People are only willing to speak up about what's right when these failures really hit home. But by the time most people are willing to speak up, it's going to take years to dig ourselves out of this hole and get back to where things were a decade ago.
And many of the newly elected ANC reps ran on the Connecticut Ave NW bike agenda. They have no clue how to handle crime.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 16:55
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Keep voting the same way.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 16:54
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Agree. And many in AU Park, Forest Hills and SV support all of the above and "like the sound of" restorative justice. Removing the penalty of losing license for not paying traffic fines was another issue where Cheh raised concerns but voted for it anyway, and we've seen more mayhem on the streets.
This is it. A lot of people in these areas want to appear "with it," and will follow wherever the activists tell them to go. Some neighbors will quietly tell you they disagree with the craziness, but few have the courage to risk the wrath of the radicals. Look how often people get accused of being racist on here just for saying they want less crime (something polls show is the top issue for D.C. residents).
That's how bullies are being handled - with meek acquiescence. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are willing to move out of the area than to stand up for it.
People are only willing to speak up about what's right when these failures really hit home. But by the time most people are willing to speak up, it's going to take years to dig ourselves out of this hole and get back to where things were a decade ago.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 15:37
Subject: Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Call and write Frumin and the mayor’s office, too. Ask them to act. Don’t just throw up your hands.
There have been many meetings with ANCs, Cheh, government officials, MPD re: these issues for years. Groups of concerned residents have met with Bowser. The WP has written many articles since the Sedgewick Garden series in 2019. Things have only gotten worse. There is so much money in play and so many layers of corruption. Frumin ran on a platform to expand affordable housing.
The poster who said more buildings will tip to become majority voucher until some point in the future when everyone will be moved out to reno and flip to condos may well be correct.
An important interim step would be to ask the ANCs to vote on resolutions supporting a moratorium on new vouchers until the city can develop reforms to this program. Frankly, the ANCs are stocked with many crazy leftists who are supportive of all these progressive concepts run amok. The ANCs need to be put on record for the voters to see.
Good idea.
If you look at the ANC3C agenda for the meeting next week, there are resolutions related to parking on Connecticut Avenue, the bike lanes initiative on Connecticut Avenue, and the development guidelines for Cleveland Park/Woodley Park, but zero on exploring the voucher issue and nothing on safety, with the exception of 10 minutes set aside to discuss potentially establishing a public safety committee. Discussion of the resolutions is a farce because all but one of the commissioners vote as a bloc and they will approve the resolutions, no matter what public input they receive. A voucher moratorium request will never come from this ANC.