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Anonymous wrote:We don’t pay a dime towards our kid’s college education. While we fund some expenses, the loans and majority is on her.

Does she commute from your house? Is she on a full-tuition scholarship? Is she at a community college? Does she have a full-time job?

Not sure how that’s possible otherwise unless you’re understating what you mean when you say “we fund some expenses.”

It is called been working and saving since 11. College is four hours away at a state Uni. Tuition almost laid for but not room and board. We give 200 a month for gas and pay car insurance. Books are on her too.

We buy some groceries but she pays for hello fresh, her apartment, electric, rental insurance. She won't be able to work full time going forward for next two years so it is college loans.

She paid cash for her used car.

What does an 11 year old do for work?

And are you low-income? If not, why would you put her in this position?

Kids can ref soccer as an AR starting at 11. Lifeguarding and more.

We didn't "put" her in any position. We paid for our college and paid off our loans in less than 10 years.

We did

It is your responsibility to pay for your child’s university education; that is why the FAFSA asks about & bases EFC on parental assets.

No worries, your daughter has leverage here to restrict your access to your future grandkids.

So says the anonymous Chairborne Ranger.

You mean the PP who thinks it’s a badge of honor to neglect her daughter?

Oh sure not paying for college for your kid is obvious neglect. What a moron!

In 2023, yes it is, if you want in the slightest for your child to be competitive in life & in the workplace.

Wrongo.

Thousands are entering trade schools and paying for it themselves. Going on believing your brand of BS.

Nobody wants to go to “trade schools” and risk pulling out their back for a living.

Go ahead believing your skreed. Let me know how that works out for you when your plumbing goes in the sh@tter.

And many in nursing school are paying for it themselves and are getting their costs reimbursed when hired.

My paying for his college son anecdotally sees far more kids on parents money wasting their college education than those paying for it themselves.

LOL. Sorry your family is poor. Hopefully it was worth spending his semesters working at McDonald’s while my child did research for a prof.

My father was a professor and I assure you that a teenager will learn much more about the world working at McDonald's than palely loitering in the bowels of the library or washing out test tubes in a freezing research lab.

+1 I am a professor and am a huge believer in teenagers working retail, food service, etc.

Weird.

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I was exposed to some real scumbags, both fellow employees & customers, working in chain restaurants as a teen girl. Also, safety issues of working in a public setting like that & having to fend off homeless loiterers.

I will let my kids get summer jobs as teens, but only in very controlled settings (so not a downtown McDonald’s). I mean the snack bar at a local country club or pool. CIT at a day camp, too.

Anonymous wrote:I regularly litter and never return my shopping cart.

Gross.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t pay a dime towards our kid’s college education. While we fund some expenses, the loans and majority is on her.

Does she commute from your house? Is she on a full-tuition scholarship? Is she at a community college? Does she have a full-time job?

Not sure how that’s possible otherwise unless you’re understating what you mean when you say “we fund some expenses.”

It is called been working and saving since 11. College is four hours away at a state Uni. Tuition almost laid for but not room and board. We give 200 a month for gas and pay car insurance. Books are on her too.

We buy some groceries but she pays for hello fresh, her apartment, electric, rental insurance. She won't be able to work full time going forward for next two years so it is college loans.

She paid cash for her used car.

What does an 11 year old do for work?

And are you low-income? If not, why would you put her in this position?

Kids can ref soccer as an AR starting at 11. Lifeguarding and more.

We didn't "put" her in any position. We paid for our college and paid off our loans in less than 10 years.

We did

It is your responsibility to pay for your child’s university education; that is why the FAFSA asks about & bases EFC on parental assets.

No worries, your daughter has leverage here to restrict your access to your future grandkids.

So says the anonymous Chairborne Ranger.

You mean the PP who thinks it’s a badge of honor to neglect her daughter?

Oh sure not paying for college for your kid is obvious neglect. What a moron!

In 2023, yes it is, if you want in the slightest for your child to be competitive in life & in the workplace.

Wrongo.

Thousands are entering trade schools and paying for it themselves. Going on believing your brand of BS.

Nobody wants to go to “trade schools” and risk pulling out their back for a living.

Go ahead believing your skreed. Let me know how that works out for you when your plumbing goes in the sh@tter.

And many in nursing school are paying for it themselves and are getting their costs reimbursed when hired.

My paying for his college son anecdotally sees far more kids on parents money wasting their college education than those paying for it themselves.

LOL. Sorry your family is poor. Hopefully it was worth spending his semesters working at McDonald’s while my child did research for a prof.

My father was a professor and I assure you that a teenager will learn much more about the world working at McDonald's than palely loitering in the bowels of the library or washing out test tubes in a freezing research lab.

+1 I am a professor and am a huge believer in teenagers working retail, food service, etc.

Weird.

-Married at 19 (still happily together — and we had 10 years pre-kids to travel the world/be semi-nomadic/do whatever)
-Several piercings
-Regularly consume American style cheese product
-Libertarian through and through
-Vape THC
-Consume street food including organ meat around the world with abandon (yet only seem to get sick after splurge meals…)

I really could go on, but these are the fun ones off the top of my head.

I regularly litter and never return my shopping cart.

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Anonymous wrote:My 16yo rising junior does not have a summer job. He's going to a week of space camp, a week of Scouts camp canoeing in Minnesota, a week of family vacation, and then starts his fall sport practice on July 31. In between time will be hanging with his friends or working on his Eagle project.

DCUM seems to think all teens should have a summer job by age 14.

Good for him. Mine doesn't have one and will be doing absolutely nothing.

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I let my kids lounge all summer. They were burnt out on camps and no longer had an interest in attending. I took a work from home job (pre-pandemic) and decided to let them have a 1980s summers. They can get a job when they want a job, but I don't push it. They have the rest of their lives to work and study. I let them sleep in, camp out, ride bikes all over, and watch too much tv. They get plenty of activity and have learned to self regulate.

Anonymous wrote:My 16yo rising junior does not have a summer job. He's going to a week of space camp, a week of Scouts camp canoeing in Minnesota, a week of family vacation, and then starts his fall sport practice on July 31. In between time will be hanging with his friends or working on his Eagle project.

DCUM seems to think all teens should have a summer job by age 14.

Good for him. Mine doesn't have one and will be doing absolutely nothing.

Dating a married man. Waiting for him to get divorced. He married for papers.

I sometimes stay in hotels that have free lobby breakfasts. And my small kids might be in their PJs at said breakfast.

Anonymous wrote:When my family goes on vacations, we all share one room. Now, we might spring for a “suite” type room with a separate living room/kitchen, but it’s one hotel room.

People were aghast that I’d do that to my family of 4.

People are shocked that our family of 6 sometimes does this. It’s as close to camping as we get when we pile into a hotel room for one or two nights. I call it forced bonding. It’s actually pretty fun.

We enjoy cruises. We thought we would hate them, but we tried one on a whim and loved it. It’s the easiest most relaxing vacation. Period.

When my family goes on vacations, we all share one room. Now, we might spring for a “suite” type room with a separate living room/kitchen, but it’s one hotel room.

People were aghast that I’d do that to my family of 4.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t pay a dime towards our kid’s college education. While we fund some expenses, the loans and majority is on her.

Does she commute from your house? Is she on a full-tuition scholarship? Is she at a community college? Does she have a full-time job?

Not sure how that’s possible otherwise unless you’re understating what you mean when you say “we fund some expenses.”

It is called been working and saving since 11. College is four hours away at a state Uni. Tuition almost laid for but not room and board. We give 200 a month for gas and pay car insurance. Books are on her too.

We buy some groceries but she pays for hello fresh, her apartment, electric, rental insurance. She won't be able to work full time going forward for next two years so it is college loans.

She paid cash for her used car.

What does an 11 year old do for work?

And are you low-income? If not, why would you put her in this position?

Kids can ref soccer as an AR starting at 11. Lifeguarding and more.

We didn't "put" her in any position. We paid for our college and paid off our loans in less than 10 years.

We did

It is your responsibility to pay for your child’s university education; that is why the FAFSA asks about & bases EFC on parental assets.

No worries, your daughter has leverage here to restrict your access to your future grandkids.

So says the anonymous Chairborne Ranger.

You mean the PP who thinks it’s a badge of honor to neglect her daughter?

Oh sure not paying for college for your kid is obvious neglect. What a moron!

In 2023, yes it is, if you want in the slightest for your child to be competitive in life & in the workplace.

Wrongo.

Thousands are entering trade schools and paying for it themselves. Going on believing your brand of BS.

Nobody wants to go to “trade schools” and risk pulling out their back for a living.

Go ahead believing your skreed. Let me know how that works out for you when your plumbing goes in the sh@tter.

And many in nursing school are paying for it themselves and are getting their costs reimbursed when hired.

My paying for his college son anecdotally sees far more kids on parents money wasting their college education than those paying for it themselves.

LOL. Sorry your family is poor. Hopefully it was worth spending his semesters working at McDonald’s while my child did research for a prof.

My father was a professor and I assure you that a teenager will learn much more about the world working at McDonald's than palely loitering in the bowels of the library or washing out test tubes in a freezing research lab.

+1 I am a professor and am a huge believer in teenagers working retail, food service, etc.

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"my child did research for a prof"

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Anonymous wrote:My 16yo rising junior does not have a summer job. He's going to a week of space camp, a week of Scouts camp canoeing in Minnesota, a week of family vacation, and then starts his fall sport practice on July 31. In between time will be hanging with his friends or working on his Eagle project.

DCUM seems to think all teens should have a summer job by age 14.

The world doesn't care that your 16 yo has a job or doesn't have a job. And yeah, camps and sports are great. However, there *are* lessons to be learned from actual employment that you don't get from activities that parents pay money for. It's a fundamentally different outlook between "the kid is here to add value to the business" vs. "we, the business, exist to serve the kid."

I'm not saying he won't be successful later. I'm not saying he won't eventually learn these skills whenever he is in the working world. But I'm saying that there are important lessons to be gained from working, and getting those at 16 can be distinctly advantageous.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t pay a dime towards our kid’s college education. While we fund some expenses, the loans and majority is on her.

Does she commute from your house? Is she on a full-tuition scholarship? Is she at a community college? Does she have a full-time job?

Not sure how that’s possible otherwise unless you’re understating what you mean when you say “we fund some expenses.”

It is called been working and saving since 11. College is four hours away at a state Uni. Tuition almost laid for but not room and board. We give 200 a month for gas and pay car insurance. Books are on her too.

We buy some groceries but she pays for hello fresh, her apartment, electric, rental insurance. She won't be able to work full time going forward for next two years so it is college loans.

She paid cash for her used car.

What does an 11 year old do for work?

And are you low-income? If not, why would you put her in this position?

Kids can ref soccer as an AR starting at 11. Lifeguarding and more.

We didn't "put" her in any position. We paid for our college and paid off our loans in less than 10 years.

We did

It is your responsibility to pay for your child’s university education; that is why the FAFSA asks about & bases EFC on parental assets.

No worries, your daughter has leverage here to restrict your access to your future grandkids.

So says the anonymous Chairborne Ranger.

You mean the PP who thinks it’s a badge of honor to neglect her daughter?

Oh sure not paying for college for your kid is obvious neglect. What a moron!

In 2023, yes it is, if you want in the slightest for your child to be competitive in life & in the workplace.

Wrongo.

Thousands are entering trade schools and paying for it themselves. Going on believing your brand of BS.

Nobody wants to go to “trade schools” and risk pulling out their back for a living.

Go ahead believing your skreed. Let me know how that works out for you when your plumbing goes in the sh@tter.

And many in nursing school are paying for it themselves and are getting their costs reimbursed when hired.

My paying for his college son anecdotally sees far more kids on parents money wasting their college education than those paying for it themselves.

LOL. Sorry your family is poor. Hopefully it was worth spending his semesters working at McDonald’s while my child did research for a prof.

My father was a professor and I assure you that a teenager will learn much more about the world working at McDonald's than palely loitering in the bowels of the library or washing out test tubes in a freezing research lab.

+1 I am a professor and am a huge believer in teenagers working retail, food service, etc.