Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All the authors banned are pretty much basic, foundational authors for thinking about black experience in the US.
Shows how powerful they are that so many are scared by their writings.
Seriously, how many awards has Ta-Nahisi Coates won?
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You missed the little part about how the college board initially denied it was including CRT instruction within the course, then in this announcement, said they were removing CRT components and authors from the course.
Caught lying.
Anonymous wrote:All the authors banned are pretty much basic, foundational authors for thinking about black experience in the US.
Shows how powerful they are that so many are scared by their writings.
Anonymous wrote:I find it concerning that LGBT issues get folded in with racial issues as a disguise.
The Respect for Marriage seemed to do just that. There was a very tiny threat to the concept of interracial marriage. However, the LGBT community grabbed it and packaged it along with gay marriage to get the agenda going.
In this case, somehow, understanding African American culture also involves understanding gay issues.
Anonymous wrote:
You missed the little part about how the college board initially denied it was including CRT instruction within the course, then in this announcement, said they were removing CRT components and authors from the course.
Caught lying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
Don’t speak for “the black community.” Queer theory belongs in an LGBT program, not snuck into a Black history course. I dont know a single Black parent not on some LGBT nonprofit’s payroll who disapproves these changes. They should have kept BLM, but it’s NBD honestly. Black history is more than what white progressives care about. I even like the part on Black conservatives. They’re part of Black history too whether or not you like it. This program is much better than the kitchen sink foolishness Desantis torpedoed. He might not have had good motives, but the effect of his objections is good.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
The controversial-and-now-optional subjects are not Black issues, they are progressive issues. It's a bit insulting to tack them onto an AA Studies class, tbh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well done Florida!!
You are probably the same person who would scream about Campus Free Expression. All of those subjects are discussed in the Black community. The class is about the discussion, not indocrination.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question: Did Desantis pick apart all AP curricula? Or did he just examine the AA one?
My point is that we will not know about other curricula pushing opinion unless we open them up too. Is the Chinese Language and Culture AP making negative statements about communism? Is so, that would be wrong, and it should be pulled.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are people so afraid of learning the non-White washed history of our country? I get it's ugly and grotesque and hard to imagine that this is the foundation we were built on, but it's accurate and it's untaught. How many of you knew about Tulsa and Black Wall Street until let's say the last 10 years? Most of us didn't, because **we weren't taught the actual history of our country.** We were taught what the throngs of white men decided we should know. This class and others like it are taking a critical look at *actual* history, and *actual experiences* of Black people in our country. If you don't want to learn about it, it's so frickin' simple to not take the class. But it's just as much an "agenda," if not more so, to remove the curriculum entirely than it is to simply let people who are interested take the frickin' class.
I'm 54. I absolutely learned all about the Tulsa massacre in school. My kids have learned about it as well. Why? Because it's a factual part of our history and as such, taught in history classes. The "queer experience" is something that ALL races experience. It's not specific to black people, nor should it be taught in history class. Gender studies? Sure.![]()
I’m also in my mid-50’s, grew up in the midwest, have family ties to Oklahoma, and first heard of the Tulsa massacre around 15 years ago.
And what a weird take that the experience of queer black Americans isn’t something to study in an African American history class. Are they black? Yes? Did they have a different experience than straight black Americans? Why is that something to avoid discussing? Are classes also not supposed to mention what black women experienced in terms of rape by white men?
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Is the "queer experience" discussed in any other AP class? NO? Then, as previously stated, an AP Gender Studies class could be proposed. What a weird take that you think only black Americans have experienced these issues. And even weirder that you think it should be explored in a history class.
You're going to be really disappointed to learn that the Gay Rights Movement is covered in AP US History. Shhhh, don't tell DeSantis. the former high school history teacher
https://library.fiveable.me/apush/unit-8/expansion-of-civil-rights-movement/study-guide/4JIzz1rguSts5wCf7Odr
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question: Did Desantis pick apart all AP curricula? Or did he just examine the AA one?
My point is that we will not know about other curricula pushing opinion unless we open them up too. Is the Chinese Language and Culture AP making negative statements about communism? Is so, that would be wrong, and it should be pulled.
Wait, you think it is wrong to acknowledge that the US has never been a place of equality and liberty for ALL of its inhabitants? The truth hurts too much to learn and become better?
DP. Those weren't the controversial parts of the AA Studies class. What point are you trying to make?
They are only controversial to white people of privilege who have used their power to degrade the class experience.
The fact you cannot understand the point made previously is a tell.
See, that's the propaganda which is your right to believe but not to teach in public schools.
Thanks Florida! Looks like AP just got rid of the bs to preserve the AA Studies part.
It is an elective.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question: Did Desantis pick apart all AP curricula? Or did he just examine the AA one?
My point is that we will not know about other curricula pushing opinion unless we open them up too. Is the Chinese Language and Culture AP making negative statements about communism? Is so, that would be wrong, and it should be pulled.
Wait, you think it is wrong to acknowledge that the US has never been a place of equality and liberty for ALL of its inhabitants? The truth hurts too much to learn and become better?
DP. Those weren't the controversial parts of the AA Studies class. What point are you trying to make?
They are only controversial to white people of privilege who have used their power to degrade the class experience.
The fact you cannot understand the point made previously is a tell.
See, that's the propaganda which is your right to believe but not to teach in public schools.
Thanks Florida! Looks like AP just got rid of the bs to preserve the AA Studies part.