Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 04:28     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.


So Pride didn't make one substitution the whole game? Not even one? Thats bananas. They really must have wanted to beat Capital.


Not unusual for Pride and many other DMV programs to keep their starters on the field. Those programs generally have a talent curve and weight playing time toward the starters to give them a better chance of staying in games and getting their starters recruited. Capital attracts better overall talent and therefore has
more depth and can use even rotations to be competitive and commit more players to D1 programs. This is proven by the fact Cap Blue has more All Mets and more All Americans than Pride.


Yea, wow. Really good points. Do you think someone should tell the Pride coach that making a substitution or two might help to keep them fresh? Or does only Capital have a line on that strategy (its brilliant). I mean, no substitutions at all in two games against Capital? What were they thinking?


Just spitballin’ but I’m guessing Pride ‘23 thought their best chance at beating Capital Blue ‘23 was to play their best players the vast majority of the game. Same approach used by just about every high school in the country. Pride ‘23 wanted to win those games - badly - to validate their decision to stay together and notch a stat to show they were as good as the best in the DMV. But Pride lost both of those matchups to a team that doesn’t follow a starter model and rotates their players every three minutes to give them all equal college recruiting exposure. Pride’s best wasn’t enough to beat Capital’s even rotations.

We can see you’re still sore about it.

This started with a claim that the two teams were equally talented. They weren’t.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 00:43     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.


So Pride didn't make one substitution the whole game? Not even one? Thats bananas. They really must have wanted to beat Capital.


Not unusual for Pride and many other DMV programs to keep their starters on the field. Those programs generally have a talent curve and weight playing time toward the starters to give them a better chance of staying in games and getting their starters recruited. Capital attracts better overall talent and therefore has
more depth and can use even rotations to be competitive and commit more players to D1 programs. This is proven by the fact Cap Blue has more All Mets and more All Americans than Pride.


Yea, wow. Really good points. Do you think someone should tell the Pride coach that making a substitution or two might help to keep them fresh? Or does only Capital have a line on that strategy (its brilliant). I mean, no substitutions at all in two games against Capital? What were they thinking?
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 00:15     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.


So Pride didn't make one substitution the whole game? Not even one? Thats bananas. They really must have wanted to beat Capital.


Not unusual for Pride and many other DMV programs to keep their starters on the field. Those programs generally have a talent curve and weight playing time toward the starters to give them a better chance of staying in games and getting their starters recruited. Capital attracts better overall talent and therefore has
more depth and can use even rotations to be competitive and commit more players to D1 programs. This is proven by the fact Cap Blue has more All Mets and more All Americans than Pride.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 00:14     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Enough about Pride 23 vs Capital Orange.

Always take A team at Pride, Stars, MC Elite, VA Metro over Capital Orange.

Each of these club has recruiting success (TBD on Stars as 25s r first recruiting class) and the data on Capital Orange recruiting is not equal.

If this is your first DD aging up to HS...Have fun and enjoy the journey.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 00:01     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.


So Pride didn't make one substitution the whole game? Not even one? Thats bananas. They really must have wanted to beat Capital.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 23:46     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.


Cap 23s had 4 All Mets and 6 All Americans.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 23:39     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


The Pride A 2025 team only beat the Capital 2025 Orange team by 1 goal at Live, Love Lax this year. They were supposed to play again at Lax For the Cure, but at the last minute Pride dropped down a division and played teams from Minnesota and other places.


Nice try. Pride 2025 Black beats the Cap 2025 O team - true. If anything Pride moved up a division for Lax for the Cure. Played two teams ranked in top 35 including playing a close one to 22nd ranked team. And the schedule didn't change at the last minute (if at all). It was the same for weeks coming into the tournament. And Cap lost to Yellow Jackets South again.

Its fine to say they're competitive teams - they are. But don't be a dope and suggest Pride was scared to play Cap O again after having already beaten them.

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 23:36     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.


Cap Blue 23 beat Pride 23 Black twice during their club careers. Cap beat them by three in ‘21 and by five in ‘22. Cap has even rotations. Pride played never took their starters off the field.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 22:01     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like M&D 27 is the cream of the crop, top DMV 27s should tryout there. Followed by Stars A team, who will still get preference on Capital. BLC girls should def be trying out for multiple clubs and steer clear of Capital Orange if they r THAT good. Sounds like talent will end up being spread out. All the local 25s had a ton of college coaches on sidelines. Scores don’t matter to coaches so wherever the 27s end up lax life will be good if they keep grinding wherever they land.


The Stars A team is much further down the list. For 2027s, it goes Hero’s Green and M&D Black, then next level down is BLC, MD United, Pride NOVA Red, and Skywalkers Blue. Then next level down is Stars Light Blue. Then next level or several levels down are a bunch of clubs, including MC Elite, YJMA, Rebels, etc.


Yes, you are right. Not many stars 27s will make Capital. But the stars HS program may benefit from that if the girls choose to stay.


At most 2 players from Stars 27 makes Capital Blue.


Do you know every girl on the stars 27 roster? How can you even say this with any certainty?



I've watched Stars play multiple. A good well-coached B level team but no outstanding athletes. 3 of their best players came from Pride where they were backups. 2 girls to Capital may be on the high side if most BLC starters try out.



So the only Stars girls to make Capital will be former Pride players?
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 21:57     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


The Pride A 2025 team only beat the Capital 2025 Orange team by 1 goal at Live, Love Lax this year. They were supposed to play again at Lax For the Cure, but at the last minute Pride dropped down a division and played teams from Minnesota and other places.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 19:34     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.


These two teams only met once as Capital vs Pride that I’m aware of. It was a close game. The players who went on to make up these teams played a few times prior as Pride and Stars. Pride won those games. When 3 of the Pride 2023 players earn Player of the Year Awards this year and many were recognized as All Met I’d say they were a talented group.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 18:12     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like M&D 27 is the cream of the crop, top DMV 27s should tryout there. Followed by Stars A team, who will still get preference on Capital. BLC girls should def be trying out for multiple clubs and steer clear of Capital Orange if they r THAT good. Sounds like talent will end up being spread out. All the local 25s had a ton of college coaches on sidelines. Scores don’t matter to coaches so wherever the 27s end up lax life will be good if they keep grinding wherever they land.


The Stars A team is much further down the list. For 2027s, it goes Hero’s Green and M&D Black, then next level down is BLC, MD United, Pride NOVA Red, and Skywalkers Blue. Then next level down is Stars Light Blue. Then next level or several levels down are a bunch of clubs, including MC Elite, YJMA, Rebels, etc.


Yes, you are right. Not many stars 27s will make Capital. But the stars HS program may benefit from that if the girls choose to stay.


At most 2 players from Stars 27 makes Capital Blue.


Do you know every girl on the stars 27 roster? How can you even say this with any certainty?



I've watched Stars play multiple. A good well-coached B level team but no outstanding athletes. 3 of their best players came from Pride where they were backups. 2 girls to Capital may be on the high side if most BLC starters try out.



We'll see......


You will see a lot of disappointed Stars parents, that's about all you will see.


So much disdain for Stars....if they are so irrelevant why do you post??

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 18:03     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


This really depends on the year. Generally, yes. As others have posted on this forum the one exception where Pride was equal in talent on the field to Capital Blue was their 2023 team. That Pride team chose to stay together. But this was unusual.

Both Capital Blue and Pride Black played in the top brackets of tournaments that year and both had extremely high strength of schedules - top 5. The difference in those two teams was Pride had no clue how the recruiting scene worked and their players paid a steep price as a result.

Go to whatever team your DD can make that will play in the top brackets, plays a tough SoS, and the club has had proven recruiting success. If playing at a high level in college is the end goal.


Pride 23 routinely lost to Cap 23 so not quite accurate to say they were equal in talent.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 18:00     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Are Pride A teams better than Capital Orange?


It depends on what your goal is. If your daughter wants to work hard and re-try out for CAP Blue then staying on Orange is the best route. For the 2025s - there was a bunch of movement between the teams. Only 1 player from the outside was brought onto the team. Once you turn down a capital orange offer the likelihood of getting another offer is not good.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 16:47     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like M&D 27 is the cream of the crop, top DMV 27s should tryout there. Followed by Stars A team, who will still get preference on Capital. BLC girls should def be trying out for multiple clubs and steer clear of Capital Orange if they r THAT good. Sounds like talent will end up being spread out. All the local 25s had a ton of college coaches on sidelines. Scores don’t matter to coaches so wherever the 27s end up lax life will be good if they keep grinding wherever they land.


The Stars A team is much further down the list. For 2027s, it goes Hero’s Green and M&D Black, then next level down is BLC, MD United, Pride NOVA Red, and Skywalkers Blue. Then next level down is Stars Light Blue. Then next level or several levels down are a bunch of clubs, including MC Elite, YJMA, Rebels, etc.


Yes, you are right. Not many stars 27s will make Capital. But the stars HS program may benefit from that if the girls choose to stay.


At most 2 players from Stars 27 makes Capital Blue.




Do you know every girl on the stars 27 roster? How can you even say this with any certainty?



I've watched Stars play multiple. A good well-coached B level team but no outstanding athletes. 3 of their best players came from Pride where they were backups. 2 girls to Capital may be on the high side if most BLC starters try out.


Thank you. Anonymous Expert.