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Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

If she got a restraining order against him, would that be considered a red flag? Assuming she was aware of him as a problem. Doesn't sound like she was, tho, which makes a yellow flag law just as useless as a restraining order.

Restraining order is very hard to get in some circumstances. Again it’s not clear in this case if a yellow flag law would have been effective (np here) but it certainly could be in certain situations. You would be shocked at how many women deal with weirdo ex boyfriends or someone they went on one date with who continue to contact them and do weird things that are quite unsettling but don’t meet criteria for a restraining order. Cops just look at you and shrug (ask me how I know..)

It's not up to the cops. It's up to a judge. Ask me how I know.

Oh 100%. Just many things don’t even get that far because cops just tell you “not much can be done if he didn’t make a specific threat”

Anonymous wrote:Geesh. As someone who had a restraining order against an ex from high school who started having mental breaks when we were in college…and ultimately committed suicide…I am thinking hard on this family and what they have lost as well as feeling my privilege that my complicated ex is no longer a threat to me or anyone else…and how our society has a male problem. No, not all men…but many…seem to think they are entitled to the attention of women and to the ability to use violence to get it.

I’m so sorry pp. i completely agree. I can immediately think of multiple friends who have had an ex come out of the woodwork years later reaching out with inappropriate and creepy things and there is so little you can do about it. I am so heartbroken for this family and for gret who will miss out on watching his children grow up. Men are taught they deserve a woman if they want her, and when rejected, some react with serious power and control issues. This is a systemic issue and not just one evil dude. Just a reflection of the systemic issue playing out with someone who ended up developing mental health issues.

Anonymous wrote:Geesh. As someone who had a restraining order against an ex from high school who started having mental breaks when we were in college…and ultimately committed suicide…I am thinking hard on this family and what they have lost as well as feeling my privilege that my complicated ex is no longer a threat to me or anyone else…and how our society has a male problem. No, not all men…but many…seem to think they are entitled to the attention of women and to the ability to use violence to get it.

No. That's wrong. People who fixate on others, men OR women, are mentally ill. They're not doing anything rational like thinking they are entitled, etc. They are not normal. They're off their rockers.

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Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

If she got a restraining order against him, would that be considered a red flag? Assuming she was aware of him as a problem. Doesn't sound like she was, tho, which makes a yellow flag law just as useless as a restraining order.

Restraining order is very hard to get in some circumstances. Again it’s not clear in this case if a yellow flag law would have been effective (np here) but it certainly could be in certain situations. You would be shocked at how many women deal with weirdo ex boyfriends or someone they went on one date with who continue to contact them and do weird things that are quite unsettling but don’t meet criteria for a restraining order. Cops just look at you and shrug (ask me how I know..)

It's not up to the cops. It's up to a judge. Ask me how I know.

Geesh. As someone who had a restraining order against an ex from high school who started having mental breaks when we were in college…and ultimately committed suicide…I am thinking hard on this family and what they have lost as well as feeling my privilege that my complicated ex is no longer a threat to me or anyone else…and how our society has a male problem. No, not all men…but many…seem to think they are entitled to the attention of women and to the ability to use violence to get it.

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Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

If she got a restraining order against him, would that be considered a red flag? Assuming she was aware of him as a problem. Doesn't sound like she was, tho, which makes a yellow flag law just as useless as a restraining order.

Restraining order is very hard to get in some circumstances. Again it’s not clear in this case if a yellow flag law would have been effective (np here) but it certainly could be in certain situations. You would be shocked at how many women deal with weirdo ex boyfriends or someone they went on one date with who continue to contact them and do weird things that are quite unsettling but don’t meet criteria for a restraining order. Cops just look at you and shrug (ask me how I know..)

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Anonymous wrote:Also the guy is probably a drug addict? Did you see those feet on his IG? and his face. HIs posts are total ramblings. I bet it's a cocktail of meth and or heroin. Probably tried to reconnect with them and got rejected or something. I really don't see this woman hanging out with this lost person. I could be wrong, but I'd be shocked.

Man I’m going to use this as a cautionary tale for my DD as why she shouldn’t date until she is much older and hopefully able to somewhat filter for crazy. Hard to know what will happen but once people get working they hopefully have gotten through enough hurdles to expose those rough edges.

Please don’t do this. For one, it won’t be effective, and two trying to create anxiety in your children about INCREDIBLY unlikely occurrences is borderline cruel in my opinion.

Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

If she got a restraining order against him, would that be considered a red flag? Assuming she was aware of him as a problem. Doesn't sound like she was, tho, which makes a yellow flag law just as useless as a restraining order.

This may get more interesting yet.

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Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

Great idea! I can't see that being misused at all!

It would not prevent purchasing a gun. It's more like when you ask USPS or UPS to text you notifications when a package is coming.

Anonymous wrote:What if VA passed a Yellow Flag law where Heather could report Josh to a registry as a psycho ex. He is yellow flagged in system. And if he ever purchases a gun, she gets notified immediately. This is a hypo/example. Might be good for situations not meeting usual red flag criteria. Or would this situation have met new red flag criteria?

Great idea! I can't see that being misused at all!

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Anonymous wrote:No inside source, but I don't believe it was the wife. It statistically isn't...yes it is usually the male partner, it is not usually the female partner.

It's statistically usually someone close to the murder victim. When a man is killed in his own house, statistically, that person is likely to be a female partner.

Guess "statistically" that's not correct in this case. Which 100% means you are wrong in your insinuation.

Anonymous wrote:Also the guy is probably a drug addict? Did you see those feet on his IG? and his face. HIs posts are total ramblings. I bet it's a cocktail of meth and or heroin. Probably tried to reconnect with them and got rejected or something. I really don't see this woman hanging out with this lost person. I could be wrong, but I'd be shocked.

Man I’m going to use this as a cautionary tale for my DD as why she shouldn’t date until she is much older and hopefully able to somewhat filter for crazy. Hard to know what will happen but once people get working they hopefully have gotten through enough hurdles to expose those rough edges.

Also the guy is probably a drug addict? Did you see those feet on his IG? and his face. HIs posts are total ramblings. I bet it's a cocktail of meth and or heroin. Probably tried to reconnect with them and got rejected or something. I really don't see this woman hanging out with this lost person. I could be wrong, but I'd be shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxmemorialfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Gret-Novillo-Glyer?obId=25236605

Graduated Grove City 2012, started dating 2016.

Did the murder go to Grove City as well, or did they date in that 4 year window?

Murderer went to UVa.

Well Heather and Gret grew up in Chantilly, and Josh was from Arlington -- so they probably didn't date in high school.

So maybe they did Match.com style dating 2012-2016 sometime? And he carried a torch for her for almost a decade longer?

No they all went to a private school together. They’ve known each other for 15 years. I seriously doubted wife dated him after high school. So this is some crazy high school infatuation.