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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

If it's such an easy job, why don't you get a gig with the MVA? The only problem is most teachers are very happy and there is little turnover. But, since you are so much better and smarter than everyone else, I'm sure it will not be an issue with you getting a job there.

Look, you lost. MVA is here to stay.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Virtual teachers work far harder than in person given they have to adapt the standard lesson plans and much more. Grow up already. MVA is here to stay. Families and staff will continue to advocate. Hopefully one day MCPS will give enough funding to allow anyone who wants to attend a spot.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Give her a break. After 4 years of being holed up at home, she probably doesn't fit into pants anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

LOL how in the world do you know if people you are hiring went to college in person? (not talking about purely online colleges). I am currently getting masters from Georgia Tech, fully online. It actually beats going in person because I have fewer distractions and more time to learn.

Online learning at the college level is VERY different than elementary school. At the very least the elementary and middle school MVA should be eliminated.

Backed with what data? Oh you have none other than “zoom school didn’t work”. Kids don’t wanna be in person. Definitely not to learn.

Well for one thing the data shows that at the elementary level, math and reading progression was much slower than at the in person level. It is documented in the latest report. We don't know anything about this past year because they won't publish it, probably because there was little to no improvement.

This is a nice thread on the issues with MVA. Report has some good data on absenteeism and lack of progress in math and reading.

Well it’s a total parent fail if they aren’t making their ES kids log on. They’re ruining it for everyone else. Why can’t the chronically absent kids be sent back to the home schools? That would open up waitlist spots for families that care more.

Yes, it is a parenting fail, but MCPS is going along with it. Schools are supposed to provide kids with some degree of protection from abusive or neglectful parents, but virtual schools can't provide that.

Your behavior is really off the hook to accusing parents of abusing or neglecting their kids if they are in virtual. How much do you think a teacher in HS or MS is going to spot with 120-200 students a day. Students are lucky if teachers can remember their names.

Clearly these kids are at risk of abuse and/or neglect based on the abyssmal attendance rates in VA. No one is watching out for these kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Give her a break. After 4 years of being holed up at home, she probably doesn't fit into pants anymore.

Who hurt you?

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

Give her a break. After 4 years of being holed up at home, she probably doesn't fit into pants anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.

Stop being lazy and get yourself to an actual school. Virtual school is an easy gig for you I’m sure

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

LOL how in the world do you know if people you are hiring went to college in person? (not talking about purely online colleges). I am currently getting masters from Georgia Tech, fully online. It actually beats going in person because I have fewer distractions and more time to learn.

Online learning at the college level is VERY different than elementary school. At the very least the elementary and middle school MVA should be eliminated.

Backed with what data? Oh you have none other than “zoom school didn’t work”. Kids don’t wanna be in person. Definitely not to learn.

Well for one thing the data shows that at the elementary level, math and reading progression was much slower than at the in person level. It is documented in the latest report. We don't know anything about this past year because they won't publish it, probably because there was little to no improvement.

This is a nice thread on the issues with MVA. Report has some good data on absenteeism and lack of progress in math and reading.

Well it’s a total parent fail if they aren’t making their ES kids log on. They’re ruining it for everyone else. Why can’t the chronically absent kids be sent back to the home schools? That would open up waitlist spots for families that care more.

Yes, it is a parenting fail, but MCPS is going along with it. Schools are supposed to provide kids with some degree of protection from abusive or neglectful parents, but virtual schools can't provide that.

Your behavior is really off the hook to accusing parents of abusing or neglecting their kids if they are in virtual. How much do you think a teacher in HS or MS is going to spot with 120-200 students a day. Students are lucky if teachers can remember their names.

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Anonymous wrote:Well we will all find out today the future of MVA. The sense I got from the board on Tuesday was they heard the testimonies, but they have a difficult budget this year and have to make tough decisions. I suspect this program will be cut. It is just not effective enough to maintain. Giving kids who are bullied the option to learn from home is not serving them...it is robbing them of a real education. I am shocked parents go along with it.

MVA gives them real education. Just like many colleges offer online degrees.

You don't seem to hire people. Online degree programs have been a joke for a long time.

Then why do they have the same accreditations? Are you all boomers or something? There’s a serious disconnect between the real world and the world you all think we live in.

Because higher ed accreditations are also a joke.

It's odd you think I'm a boomer. The only people I know that have any sort of positive association with online programs are boomers and older gen-xers that paid for bogus graduate degrees from diploma mills. All the younger people actually went to school and know that you couldn't have a remotely similar experience online. And it shows when you look at staff abilities across the board.

Oh ok. I’ll just tell employers who they hire are jokes. 🙄

You really don't seem to have much experience with hiring. Everyone knows the diploma mills are jokes. If the job doesn't actually require a degree, and they just want to check a box that you have a degree, then sure, the diploma mills are fine.

But try shopping around an MS or DSc in a STEM field from a diploma mill.

I have thanks!!! In computer science. WHICH IS ALL ONLINE! Not everything is equal. And not everything is evil. My firm (government contractor) was an EEO. Many more I know do not and hence...why America needs equity measures. Not everyone has access to the same - but how dare you judge someone who got where they did because they do not meet your biased criteria. Harvard, Yale, Princeton...all have online programs, approved by the US Department of Education! There most likely is a high percentage of your child's teachers who have taken classes online for their coursework or professional development. But oh wait......we know what you feel about teachers. So ironic, considering you INSIST your dear children must be taught by them.

I’m a teacher who has taken many online classes for certification requirements. It is a terrible way to learn even for adults. Almost all kids would be better off in in-person school

It’s a great thing you don’t teach virtually. (another teacher here).

Why would you come here and say something inflammatory knowing how irresponsible it is to make blanket statements like that? Especially as an educator of children with diverse backgrounds and needs such as we have here in this county. You don’t speak for the millions of adults who have successfully learned virtually. All children are not better off in the building for various reasons. All children are not better in person for various reasons. Do better.