Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:58     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Yes. It's a marvel to see a country across the ocean threatening an agreement two OTHER countries have made voluntarily and to a mutual benefit.


Well, if one of those two countries repeatedly bullies neighbouring countries... occupies their territories, kills their citizens, keeps whole nations afraid... Should the rest of the world just watch and mumble about 'mutual benefit'? Sheesh.

Sorry but no one bullies other countries like the US. Look in the mirroirs
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:56     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Would be funny to see Biden drone strike Nordstream

Pipelines are sitting ducks


Nordstream is under water, you dummy.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:54     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Yes. It's a marvel to see a country across the ocean threatening an agreement two OTHER countries have made voluntarily and to a mutual benefit.


Well, if one of those two countries repeatedly bullies neighbouring countries... occupies their territories, kills their citizens, keeps whole nations afraid... Should the rest of the world just watch and mumble about 'mutual benefit'? Sheesh.


The world, led by the US, does it for Al-Saud and Al-Maktoums cheerfully, so let's drop the hypocritical "offended virgin" look.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:49     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

If we were still the largest energy producer in the world we could influence the markets and cripple Russia’s petro-economy. Biden is such a failure.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:38     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Yes. It's a marvel to see a country across the ocean threatening an agreement two OTHER countries have made voluntarily and to a mutual benefit.


Well, if one of those two countries repeatedly bullies neighbouring countries... occupies their territories, kills their citizens, keeps whole nations afraid... Should the rest of the world just watch and mumble about 'mutual benefit'? Sheesh.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 14:27     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Would be funny to see Biden drone strike Nordstream

Pipelines are sitting ducks
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 12:04     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020


Yes. It's a marvel to see a country across the ocean threatening an agreement two OTHER countries have made voluntarily and to a mutual benefit.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 11:28     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Ironic that Biden threatens to cancel Norddtream2 if Russia crosses into Ukraine, just like he did to Keystroke in January 2020
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 08:16     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Matt Lee? "Show us your classified intel that would expose the inside source!"


Don’t be an imbecile and listen to the clip. jFC you people are stupid.


I did listen to the clip. Matt Lee sounded like a complete imbecile.


Then you are remarkably ignorant of what a journalist’s job is because Matt Lee has been universally praised for his questioning by the press.


Anyone can "question." The questioning win is asking insightful, relevant questions based on actual facts and history, like Russia's known prior history of false flags. The questioning win is NOT automatically implying, without a shred of evidence, that the State Department is lying. You're remarkably ignorant about how off base Matt Lee's questioning was.


NP. I’ve studied USSR & successors for 30+ years. Matt Lee’s question wasn’t out of bounds, and it was disingenuous to suggest that he was calling the assertion of false flags a lie. He is journalist, asking for the evidence that underpinned a serious government assertion. It is his job to ask for the supporting evidence. Labeling him as unpatriotic or a supporter of Russia is anti-democratic and beneath the dignity of a USG spokesperson. As he pointed out in response, the USG has told falsehoods about evidence that supported our drive to war in Iraq, so it is not unreasonable to ask for the supporting evidence here.

The Intel community declassified an assertion about Russia. Democracy requires more than an assertion without supporting evidence as conflict builds, because in a democracy it is necessary to build public support and knowledge about choices.

I say this as someone who supports a free, independent and un-fragmented Ukraine (and a free, independent and un-fragmented Bosnian state) and who has no doubt about what the Russians have done and are still doing in Ukraine.

BTW, Belarus, is Putin’s real objective. Like a magician, he has re-directed world attention to Ukraine while occupying Belarus to quell a highly successful non-violent revolution against a dictator who was propping himself up via stolen elections. Putin has managed to occupy Belarus and will never leave, all without any threat of sanctions or any protest from the West. Why does he care about Belarus? Because if citizens are successful there in wresting the state away from an autocrat, the same model can be used in Russia against Putin by his own citizens, and he knows if he is exposed his kleptocracy will be exposed as well and he will not survive as the free, wealthy, powerful man he is today.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 07:52     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone should really start a new thread with the simple question:

1) I favor a violent Russian Military invasion of tiny Ukraine, or

2) I favor peace.

Pick one.

There are no other angles here.

No, it is not complicated. It really isn’t. You want WAR or you don’t.


1. And I further support Russian involvement in the balkans. Russia is a great power.

2. China should take Taiwan

3. Índia should take Kashmir and smash Pakistan

4. Israel should send the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia or Jordan and take over the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip

5. Us, uk, Australia, Canada and NZ should have a free trade and free movement alliance.


No way. I don’t want Brits, Aussies and Kiwis moving freely here. Some Canadians are still alright, so they get a pass for now.



If we're carving up the world then why shouldn't the Turks get the Balkans instead? Their claim is stronger than the Russian one and their food is much better.


The Romanians also hate the Russians though. So clearly their concerns don't matter in your scenario.

Can’t speak for the Balkans, but they better stay out of Romania. The last time a Turk army went there, 20,000 of them got impaled on wood posts.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 00:12     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Matt Lee? "Show us your classified intel that would expose the inside source!"


Don’t be an imbecile and listen to the clip. jFC you people are stupid.


I did listen to the clip. Matt Lee sounded like a complete imbecile.


Then you are remarkably ignorant of what a journalist’s job is because Matt Lee has been universally praised for his questioning by the press.


Anyone can "question." The questioning win is asking insightful, relevant questions based on actual facts and history, like Russia's known prior history of false flags. The questioning win is NOT automatically implying, without a shred of evidence, that the State Department is lying. You're remarkably ignorant about how off base Matt Lee's questioning was.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 00:12     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone should really start a new thread with the simple question:

1) I favor a violent Russian Military invasion of tiny Ukraine, or

2) I favor peace.

Pick one.

There are no other angles here.

No, it is not complicated. It really isn’t. You want WAR or you don’t.


1. And I further support Russian involvement in the balkans. Russia is a great power.

2. China should take Taiwan

3. Índia should take Kashmir and smash Pakistan

4. Israel should send the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia or Jordan and take over the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip

5. Us, uk, Australia, Canada and NZ should have a free trade and free movement alliance.


No way. I don’t want Brits, Aussies and Kiwis moving freely here. Some Canadians are still alright, so they get a pass for now.



If we're carving up the world then why shouldn't the Turks get the Balkans instead? Their claim is stronger than the Russian one and their food is much better.


Can’t speak for the Balkans, but they better stay out of Romania. The last time a Turk army went there, 20,000 of them got impaled on wood posts.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 00:09     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Meanwhile Russian military officers have deep concerns and think Putin is grossly underestimating Ukraine...

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-officials-fear-invading-ukraine-183546579.html
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2022 00:07     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone should really start a new thread with the simple question:

1) I favor a violent Russian Military invasion of tiny Ukraine, or

2) I favor peace.

Pick one.

There are no other angles here.

No, it is not complicated. It really isn’t. You want WAR or you don’t.


1. And I further support Russian involvement in the balkans. Russia is a great power.

2. China should take Taiwan

3. Índia should take Kashmir and smash Pakistan

4. Israel should send the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia or Jordan and take over the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip

5. Us, uk, Australia, Canada and NZ should have a free trade and free movement alliance.


No way. I don’t want Brits, Aussies and Kiwis moving freely here. Some Canadians are still alright, so they get a pass for now.



If we're carving up the world then why shouldn't the Turks get the Balkans instead? Their claim is stronger than the Russian one and their food is much better.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2022 22:14     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone should really start a new thread with the simple question:

1) I favor a violent Russian Military invasion of tiny Ukraine, or

2) I favor peace.

Pick one.

There are no other angles here.

No, it is not complicated. It really isn’t. You want WAR or you don’t.


1. And I further support Russian involvement in the balkans. Russia is a great power.

2. China should take Taiwan

3. Índia should take Kashmir and smash Pakistan

4. Israel should send the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia or Jordan and take over the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip

5. Us, uk, Australia, Canada and NZ should have a free trade and free movement alliance.


No way. I don’t want Brits, Aussies and Kiwis moving freely here. Some Canadians are still alright, so they get a pass for now.