Anonymous wrote:I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Have you paid to attention to what Trump actually does? He surrenders all the time! He just won't ever admit that he surrendered and insists that he won.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Trump WILL surrender and call it a victory. But what's not clear is if Iran lets him get away with it. Trump's lost.

He won't surrender. He might unilaterally stop bombing Iran but then Iran won't be able to resist getting the last shot. Which will lead to a resumption of bombing and the cycle starting up again.

He'll effectively "surrender" in that his military campaign has failed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Trump WILL surrender and call it a victory. But what's not clear is if Iran lets him get away with it. Trump's lost.

He won't surrender. He might unilaterally stop bombing Iran but then Iran won't be able to resist getting the last shot. Which will lead to a resumption of bombing and the cycle starting up again.

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Anonymous wrote:Our founding fathers-revolutionaries would be shocked at our apathy.

This is decades of laziness, too much wealth, poor education, decline of morals that has led to this—-a society that allows itself to be headed by immoral, uninspiring, and idiotic leaders in BOTH parties.

The few diamonds there are out there in leadership roles are unable to rise to the top because our society has chosen to venerate beauty and charisma above all else. No wonder the Kardashians are billionaires. Only in America 🤮

Sorry, no this is not a "BOTH SIDES" issue.

The democrats fund education.
The democrats haven't started never ending wars since Vietnam and that was pre-southern strategy, so really, those were mordern republicans.

There was nothing wrong with Kerry, Clinton, Harris or Biden as presidential candidates. The problem was the mind rot that Fox News creates, coupled with the binary "win/lose" approach that Newt Gingrich embraced. Are there bad democrats? Of course. But nothing on the scale of the NeoCons that got us into Iraq and Afgahanistan or the Tea Party that destroyed our balance of the economy.

The fact of the matter is that we are in this war for Israel. Israel doesn't care what happens to Iran or the world economy or US soldiers. They just want Iran destroyed, no matter the cost to everyone else.

And supporting Israel at the cost of the US is still something both Republicans and Democrats support. At least the Democratic leadership and the bulk of the elected democrats in Congress. So it is a both sides issue. Until the Democrats actually show they will cut Israel off and let them fend for themselves and put the interests of this country first.

While this is true, I am old enough to remember when Harris lost the election for suggesting a two state solution and opposing the genocide of the Palestinians.

Anonymous wrote:When you elect a complete idiot who governs on his “instincts”

This pic in the comments sums it up.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Trump WILL surrender and call it a victory. But what's not clear is if Iran lets him get away with it. Trump's lost.

Iran has zero incentive to let him get away with it. They have the world by the horns right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Our founding fathers-revolutionaries would be shocked at our apathy.

This is decades of laziness, too much wealth, poor education, decline of morals that has led to this—-a society that allows itself to be headed by immoral, uninspiring, and idiotic leaders in BOTH parties.

The few diamonds there are out there in leadership roles are unable to rise to the top because our society has chosen to venerate beauty and charisma above all else. No wonder the Kardashians are billionaires. Only in America 🤮

Sorry, no this is not a "BOTH SIDES" issue.

The democrats fund education.
The democrats haven't started never ending wars since Vietnam and that was pre-southern strategy, so really, those were mordern republicans.

There was nothing wrong with Kerry, Clinton, Harris or Biden as presidential candidates. The problem was the mind rot that Fox News creates, coupled with the binary "win/lose" approach that Newt Gingrich embraced. Are there bad democrats? Of course. But nothing on the scale of the NeoCons that got us into Iraq and Afgahanistan or the Tea Party that destroyed our balance of the economy.

The fact of the matter is that we are in this war for Israel. Israel doesn't care what happens to Iran or the world economy or US soldiers. They just want Iran destroyed, no matter the cost to everyone else.

And supporting Israel at the cost of the US is still something both Republicans and Democrats support. At least the Democratic leadership and the bulk of the elected democrats in Congress. So it is a both sides issue. Until the Democrats actually show they will cut Israel off and let them fend for themselves and put the interests of this country first.

When you elect a complete idiot who governs on his “instincts”

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Trump WILL surrender and call it a victory. But what's not clear is if Iran lets him get away with it. Trump's lost.

I don't think the US public quite gets just how bad this is going be. There is no easy way out anymore and without a global oil supply, the economies are going to implode.

And Trump will NEVER surrender to whatever Iran would demand to end this.

Anonymous wrote:Our founding fathers-revolutionaries would be shocked at our apathy.

This is decades of laziness, too much wealth, poor education, decline of morals that has led to this—-a society that allows itself to be headed by immoral, uninspiring, and idiotic leaders in BOTH parties.

The few diamonds there are out there in leadership roles are unable to rise to the top because our society has chosen to venerate beauty and charisma above all else. No wonder the Kardashians are billionaires. Only in America 🤮

Sorry, no this is not a "BOTH SIDES" issue.

The democrats fund education.
The democrats haven't started never ending wars since Vietnam and that was pre-southern strategy, so really, those were mordern republicans.

There was nothing wrong with Kerry, Clinton, Harris or Biden as presidential candidates. The problem was the mind rot that Fox News creates, coupled with the binary "win/lose" approach that Newt Gingrich embraced. Are there bad democrats? Of course. But nothing on the scale of the NeoCons that got us into Iraq and Afgahanistan or the Tea Party that destroyed our balance of the economy.

Time to impeach Trump. If Vance does not end the war impeach him also.

More unintended consequences…

Teach yourself and your kids the truth. American education is a joke and MSM is a brainrot propogandist machine.

In case you don't understand, this is from the mouths of #2 (Johnson) and #4 (Rubio) in the order of line of succession to the Presidency.

#1 (Vance) seems to have disappeared to Varanasi or somewhere practicing to become a silent yogi.

Why did we invade Iran?

Sec of State Marco Rubio
"We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties."

House Speaker Mike Johnson
“This was a defensive measure…If Israel fired upon Iran and took action against Iran to take out the missiles, then [Iran] would have immediately retaliated against U.S. personnel and assets."

Sen Tom Cotton
"The simple reality is Iran has a vast missile arsenal that far exceeds the combined missile defenses of the United States, our air friends in Israel, and it gets much worse every single month. That is an unacceptable risk for the United States, it’s an existential risk for our air friends in Israel, and it wouldn’t get better if we waited six or twelve or eighteen months to find a more imminent risk."

Our founding fathers-revolutionaries would be shocked at our apathy.

This is decades of laziness, too much wealth, poor education, decline of morals that has led to this—-a society that allows itself to be headed by immoral, uninspiring, and idiotic leaders in BOTH parties.

The few diamonds there are out there in leadership roles are unable to rise to the top because our society has chosen to venerate beauty and charisma above all else. No wonder the Kardashians are billionaires. Only in America 🤮