Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

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I’m not sure half of them have eaten real food in other countries and know what real food feels like.
They think Disney has healthy food for God’s sake.

You understand that the people you’re calling “junk food addicts” are the ones who are advocating for personal accountability, and who are the ones in this thread who are able to keep their weight in check by eating healthy food?

And the OP of this thread is the one who is pre-diabetic because she is unable to make healthy choices for herself, and those agreeing with her are essentially arguing that junk food is impossible for people to resist so the government needs to step in and make those dietary choices for them?

So it doesn’t really track when you equate the people who are seemingly the only ones here who eat healthy foods and take care of themselves to be saying “git yer hands off my junk food”.

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I eat healthy foods and am fit, and I agree that the PPs (maybe you too) are addicts with a "git yer hands off my junk food" mentality. The idea that you can get high quality, healthy food at Disney is laughable. I think you've just never even tasted good food and believe the tasteless cardboard you eat is "healthy."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“Quality ingredients” = no calories. Great to know! Can’t wait to move to France and stuff my face with croissants and cheese.

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If you know about nutrition, calories are not equal. Calorie from broccoli does not equal calorie from Big Mac.
French cheese is not the same as Kraft cheese, French bakery croissants vs Starbucks. The quality and ingredients very much matter. How can you not know this?

DP. Calories are calories. The end. I can choose to have a sliver of cheese or a huge bowl of cauliflower. I can choose to have a regular Mexican taco or to add 500 calories in cheese to it. Are you imagining somehow that I might eat more calories in a day than I burn but if it was broccoli I will not gain weight and if it is a hamburger I will gain weight? That is simply untrue.
What pp was referring to is that there are no 7 spoons of sugar in French bread like there are in some American commercially produced loaves of bread. I can eat a nice chunk of bread in Europe, not the crappy sliced bread and I will eat a higher volume of bread, yet with fewer calories.
I eat pastry every morning while in Europe, a heavy pastry called burek. I am not overweight because nobody added 10 spoons of sugar to it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.

I’m the Spain pp. I gained weight over the year I lived there and I walked everywhere. I felt like there wasn’t a huge focus on vegetables and more on cured meats and carbs. Maybe it was just my body?

Your anecdote cannot be true! It contradicts some other anonymous anecdotes so I cannot believe it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

+100

I’m not sure half of them have eaten real food in other countries and know what real food feels like.
They think Disney has healthy food for God’s sake.

You understand that the people you’re calling “junk food addicts” are the ones who are advocating for personal accountability, and who are the ones in this thread who are able to keep their weight in check by eating healthy food?

And the OP of this thread is the one who is pre-diabetic because she is unable to make healthy choices for herself, and those agreeing with her are essentially arguing that junk food is impossible for people to resist so the government needs to step in and make those dietary choices for them?

So it doesn’t really track when you equate the people who are seemingly the only ones here who eat healthy foods and take care of themselves to be saying “git yer hands off my junk food”.

I don't think she can understand this.

Also, OP still won't tell us her home country. Because it is the US.

Anonymous wrote:The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.

I’m the Spain pp. I gained weight over the year I lived there and I walked everywhere. I felt like there wasn’t a huge focus on vegetables and more on cured meats and carbs. Maybe it was just my body?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

+100

I’m not sure half of them have eaten real food in other countries and know what real food feels like.
They think Disney has healthy food for God’s sake.

1. Twinkies are delicious.

2. I agree.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

+100

I’m not sure half of them have eaten real food in other countries and know what real food feels like.
They think Disney has healthy food for God’s sake.

You understand that the people you’re calling “junk food addicts” are the ones who are advocating for personal accountability, and who are the ones in this thread who are able to keep their weight in check by eating healthy food?

And the OP of this thread is the one who is pre-diabetic because she is unable to make healthy choices for herself, and those agreeing with her are essentially arguing that junk food is impossible for people to resist so the government needs to step in and make those dietary choices for them?

So it doesn’t really track when you equate the people who are seemingly the only ones here who eat healthy foods and take care of themselves to be saying “git yer hands off my junk food”.

Because they are lazy, that is the real and honest answer.
Yes, they are lazier than people in many other countries.
Because they can be, and the food is cheap and available facilitating being lazy.

Anonymous wrote:

“Quality ingredients” = no calories. Great to know! Can’t wait to move to France and stuff my face with croissants and cheese.

.

If you know about nutrition, calories are not equal. Calorie from broccoli does not equal calorie from Big Mac.
French cheese is not the same as Kraft cheese, French bakery croissants vs Starbucks. The quality and ingredients very much matter. How can you not know this?

Anonymous wrote:
Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

+100

I’m not sure half of them have eaten real food in other countries and know what real food feels like.
They think Disney has healthy food for God’s sake.

Anonymous wrote:The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.

“Quality ingredients” = no calories. Great to know! Can’t wait to move to France and stuff my face with croissants and cheese.

Anonymous wrote:The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.

Yes, yes you ARE going to get fat from it if you eat a lot of it every day.

My thin Parisian friends are women who do NOT eat the bread every day. They smoke and they will eat the bread when they treat themselves to a lovely meal, but it isn't a daily thing at all. You would consider them to have eating disorders if you knew exactly how they really eat. My chubby non-Parisian friends do eat a lot of the bread, though.

Anonymous wrote:The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.

It’s also about portion size, non-sedentary lifestyles, and self-control.

Anonymous wrote:

Sounds like your kid wanted a Frappuccino, which is basically a milkshake. You can easily order plain coffee or an americano in Starbucks with no sweetener. Did you really not know that sugary drinks have a lot of sugar?

Why would a person think a coffee drink = sugary drink. Only in America. Kids don’t know this. They also think chocolate milk at schools is healthy. The sugar, additives, preservatives get concealed in food and drinks in America.

The difference is food quality. You can eat bread in France but you’re not going to get fat from it like you do from processed crap here. Yogurt served in Greece is not going to be packed with sugar. You are not going to get fat from Italian pasta dishes because of the quality ingredients they use.

P.S. I’ve been to Spain too and the quality of food there is a level higher.