Anonymous wrote:Let's end this thread with one final ranking and call it a day ok?

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

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Anonymous wrote:My take: (a balance of undergrad and grad emphasis )

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Columbia
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
UC Berkeley

+1 let’s end the thread with this

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Anonymous wrote:My take: (a balance of undergrad and grad emphasis )

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Columbia
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
UC Berkeley

+1 let’s end the thread with this

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's end this thread with one final ranking and call it a day ok?

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

Not Dartmouth or Duke or Brown. They're not top 10. Add Stanford and UCLA.

Anonymous wrote:My take: (a balance of undergrad and grad emphasis )

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Columbia
Princeton
Caltech
Penn
Chicago
UC Berkeley

Anonymous wrote:Let's end this thread with one final ranking and call it a day ok?

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

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Anonymous wrote:Let's end this thread with one final ranking and call it a day ok?

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

You forgot Elon

Anonymous wrote:Let's end this thread with one final ranking and call it a day ok?

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard Stanford MIT
Yale Princeton Columbia
Penn Chicago Caltech
Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Berkeley
Cornell Johns Hopkins

Best list so far.

Not sure Stanford is above Yale, Princeton, Columbia. I know multiple kids who were rejected by Yale, Princeton, Columbia but admitted to Stanford.

Stanford is probably in a similar tier with Yale and Princeton, but these days perception is that Harvard and Stanford are best of best. There is a drop between HYPSM and Columbia

So what exactly is this gap between HYPSM and Columbia?

Funny, Ivy originally came from IV - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia.

Look, I’m a DP and a fan of Columbia, but this is an urban legend that is mostly only touted by Columbia alums.

Pathetically insecure...

Please check the facts before you post. Ignorance is the most pathetic thing on this thread; it wins by a hair over those insecure posters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Football_Association

"On November 23, 1876, representatives from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia met at the Massasoit House hotel in Springfield, Massachusetts to standardize a new code of rules based on the rugby game."

So yes, even though the term "Ivy" did not come from "IV," these four schools were the first precursor to the Ivy League.

Princeton, Yale, Harvard, and Columbia had set up a conference of sorts called the “Four League,” only written in Roman numerals as “IV League.” People would say “Ivy League” instead of “Four League.”

Origin of the name
"Planting the ivy" was a customary class day ceremony at many colleges in the 1800s. In 1893, an alumnus told The Harvard Crimson, "In 1850, class day was placed upon the University Calendar. ... the custom of planting the ivy, while the ivy oration was delivered, arose about this time."[44] At Penn, graduating seniors started the custom of planting ivy at a university building each spring in 1873 and that practice was formally designated as "Ivy Day" in 1874.[45] Ivy planting ceremonies are recorded at Yale, Simmons College, and Bryn Mawr College among other schools.[46][47][48] Princeton's "Ivy Club" was founded in 1879.[49]

The first usage of Ivy in reference to a group of colleges is from sportswriter Stanley Woodward (1895–1965).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

If your story is correct, why aren’t Simmons College, and Bryn Mawr College part of Ivy?

because Bryn Mawr's men's athletics weren't quite on the level of Harvard and the Ivy league was a sports league

And the sports league at the time was known as “Four League”. But “Four League” just didn’t roll of the tongue - and probably didn’t sound European enough - so it was changed to “IV League”. The rest, as they say, is history. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard Stanford MIT
Yale Princeton Columbia
Penn Chicago Caltech
Northwestern Duke Dartmouth Brown Berkeley
Cornell Johns Hopkins

Best list so far.

Not sure Stanford is above Yale, Princeton, Columbia. I know multiple kids who were rejected by Yale, Princeton, Columbia but admitted to Stanford.

Stanford is probably in a similar tier with Yale and Princeton, but these days perception is that Harvard and Stanford are best of best. There is a drop between HYPSM and Columbia

So what exactly is this gap between HYPSM and Columbia?

Funny, Ivy originally came from IV - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia.

Look, I’m a DP and a fan of Columbia, but this is an urban legend that is mostly only touted by Columbia alums.

Pathetically insecure...

Please check the facts before you post. Ignorance is the most pathetic thing on this thread; it wins by a hair over those insecure posters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Football_Association

"On November 23, 1876, representatives from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia met at the Massasoit House hotel in Springfield, Massachusetts to standardize a new code of rules based on the rugby game."

So yes, even though the term "Ivy" did not come from "IV," these four schools were the first precursor to the Ivy League.

Princeton, Yale, Harvard, and Columbia had set up a conference of sorts called the “Four League,” only written in Roman numerals as “IV League.” People would say “Ivy League” instead of “Four League.”

Origin of the name
"Planting the ivy" was a customary class day ceremony at many colleges in the 1800s. In 1893, an alumnus told The Harvard Crimson, "In 1850, class day was placed upon the University Calendar. ... the custom of planting the ivy, while the ivy oration was delivered, arose about this time."[44] At Penn, graduating seniors started the custom of planting ivy at a university building each spring in 1873 and that practice was formally designated as "Ivy Day" in 1874.[45] Ivy planting ceremonies are recorded at Yale, Simmons College, and Bryn Mawr College among other schools.[46][47][48] Princeton's "Ivy Club" was founded in 1879.[49]

The first usage of Ivy in reference to a group of colleges is from sportswriter Stanley Woodward (1895–1965).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

If your story is correct, why aren’t Simmons College, and Bryn Mawr College part of Ivy?

because Bryn Mawr's men's athletics weren't quite on the level of Harvard and the Ivy league was a sports league