Anonymous wrote:So AAP is not required by law under FAPE?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If ESOL is a drain, then why not AAP kids and language immersion kids? They take up resources too. But I guess that's OK?

Exactly. I would think that they should both be on the chopping block. ESOL is required by law.

Anonymous wrote:If ESOL is a drain, then why not AAP kids and language immersion kids? They take up resources too. But I guess that's OK?

Anonymous wrote:

Educating kids is an investment in all our futures. People who dismissively use the term “drain,” when it comes to educating certain children because they are the wrong color or had the misfortune to be born in a dangerous place are horrible individuals fully deserving of scorn.

You’ll claim you’re just being reasonable, or speaking in economic terms, but what goes around comes around.

Wow! I'm the PP to whom you are responding. I said we should educate them, but we need a plan. And, FWIW, what would happen in your house if you suddenly had unexpected guests and no place for them to sleep and not enough food?

Now, take a school system structured for a certain number of kids and suddenly have to accommodate in one year a thousand unexpected kids. You need teachers, you need books, you need computers, you need specialists, you need translators, you need liaisons, etc., etc. So, with limited funds that are already allocated, what do you do? What is the plan?

Do you listen to SB meetings? Do you understand how they argue and work to put the money where it belongs? And, then you think it just magically appears in the pockets of our new arrivals?

Of course, we educate them. But how?

Anonymous wrote:

Educating kids is an investment in all our futures. People who dismissively use the term “drain,” when it comes to educating certain children because they are the wrong color or had the misfortune to be born in a dangerous place are horrible individuals fully deserving of scorn.

You’ll claim you’re just being reasonable, or speaking in economic terms, but what goes around comes around.

Wow! I'm the PP to whom you are responding. I said we should educate them, but we need a plan. And, FWIW, what would happen in your house if you suddenly had unexpected guests and no place for them to sleep and not enough food?

Now, take a school system structured for a certain number of kids and suddenly have to accommodate in one year a thousand unexpected kids. You need teachers, you need books, you need computers, you need specialists, you need translators, you need liaisons, etc., etc. So, with limited funds that are already allocated, what do you do? What is the plan?

Do you listen to SB meetings? Do you understand how they argue and work to put the money where it belongs? And, then you think it just magically appears in the pockets of our new arrivals?

Of course, we educate them. But how?

Anonymous wrote:

Educating kids is an investment in all our futures. People who dismissively use the term “drain,” when it comes to educating certain children because they are the wrong color or had the misfortune to be born in a dangerous place are horrible individuals fully deserving of scorn.

You’ll claim you’re just being reasonable, or speaking in economic terms, but what goes around comes around.

Wow! I'm the PP to whom you are responding. I said we should educate them, but we need a plan. And, FWIW, what would happen in your house if you suddenly had unexpected guests and no place for them to sleep and not enough food?

Now, take a school system structured for a certain number of kids and suddenly have to accommodate in one year a thousand unexpected kids. You need teachers, you need books, you need computers, you need specialists, you need translators, you need liaisons, etc., etc. So, with limited funds that are already allocated, what do you do? What is the plan?

Do you listen to SB meetings? Do you understand how they argue and work to put the money where it belongs? And, then you think it just magically appears in the pockets of our new arrivals?

Of course, we educate them. But how?

Educating kids is an investment in all our futures. People who dismissively use the term “drain,” when it comes to educating certain children because they are the wrong color or had the misfortune to be born in a dangerous place are horrible individuals fully deserving of scorn.

You’ll claim you’re just being reasonable, or speaking in economic terms, but what goes around comes around.

Anonymous wrote:It's not a "drain" for my kid to be in the school if I am paying a full tax load for the kid to be there.

It is a "drain" if a family cannot contribute to the tax base for the school. Now a rising tide lifts all boats. I don't mind paying full freight and having a mix of kids in the school whose families can't or don't pay the same as I do. But if you start taking on too many kids in a school and don't have commensurate funding, then yes that's a drain and it is not sustainable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When one elementary school with a high ESOL percentage gets over 30 additional kids since September, there is no question that the new kids are draining the system. That has nothing to do with pregnant girls--I have no idea what that stat is. I do know that there are plenty of adult kids in the ESOL programs in the high schools.

Of course, the kids need to be in school. But, anyone who does not know that this is draining FCPS resources, is deceiving themselves. These kids are not only additional numbers in our system, but they cost lots and lots of money for special services in addition to ESOL services.

So, when you complain about not getting services in schools, please remember where your tax dollars are going.

The purpose of schools is to educate young people. When your kids were in school, did you call them a “drain” on the county’s resources? Probably not.

The right-wing politics of exclusion is what’s sapping the soul of this country and ruining its reputation.

Anonymous wrote:There's always going to be a few parents who go nuts because they don't like ESOL kids or their own kid didn't get into AAP. They post anonymously on forums like this because no one pays attention to them in person. Boo hoo.