Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 10:09     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:If they were white none of you would have an issue


I thought about this, because that was my first reaction - I have learned that it is not that. It is both the physical size of two abutting parties, and the way that all (!!) parties failed to handle the situation. If you leave the seat in the middle open, expecting to keep it FREE (literally and physically) for yourselves - expect some pushback, especially if the person looks like she won't push back. I am the PP from above and I guarantee that my blonde, sassy friends would have found a way to get the couple thrown off the plane. I don't know how she would have done it, but some of them are masterful at their craft, because they have had a lifetime to up their sass. It is not just POC who roll that way.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 10:04     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
I was in full body contact on my last flight with people much smaller than the couple in the video. I’m a Lille smaller than the blonde in the video but not much. I’ve practically sat in the lap of someone smaller than that couple through overflow. It’s not fat shaming. It’s that they really DO NOT fit into the seat. It’s a seat not a handbag.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 10:01     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
If they were white none of you would have an issue
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 10:00     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
United is the worst: tiny uncomfortable seats.

The couple should have immediately offered up the aisle seat when the woman showed up for the middle seat.

Having been forced to sit between two very large men on a flight, I know what it feels like to have two strangers squeeze my body with their shoulders, arms and legs. One guy even suggested we lift the armrest "so WE could have more room." Um, no thanks.

Now I'm willing to pay whatever it costs to have an aisle seat. I'll take my chances with the drink carts.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 10:00     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:
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Good customer service means making all your customers welcome. Airlines could:

- have some bigger seats that are more expensive but aren't double the price of others.
- be clear about seat sizes and distance between seats in the coming process
- dont move or rebook people who have chosen a bigger seat for this reason
- dont give away extra seats that are purchased for this reason
- don't overbook flights
- don't charge extra for seat selection


They already have a lot of that and/or it won't address the problem.

If you want a bigger seat, pay for first class. I travel a lot for work but I know my trip plans many months in advance. First class, when bought far ahead, is the same price as buying economy class a month or two ahead.

Seat sizes are easily found on seatguru.com and the airline's website. It's not hidden at all.

Seat selection is a value to customers.. they should charge for it if people are willing to pay. Besides, that won't solve the issue if 2 large people traveling together choose to sit in the same row/section.

I agree airlines shouldnt' give away extra seats -- I didn't realize this was so common.


The issue is the two larger adults clearly planned this to either get an empty middle seat or let someone else have the space burden. They should have picked two seats together instead of selfishly putting a stranger in the middle of them. I would have been pissed. I've had it happen and its miserable. She should have handled it better asking for a seat change, but most likely there were not any extra seats. The larger folks should should have put her on the isle and taken the window and middle.


I bet they at least know how to spell aisle since they were clever enough to go for this seat strategy.


+1

My DH and I do this all of the time. Why would you intentionally sit in a middle seat? If the middle seat gets taken then you can switch but if you book a middle seat you will definitely have a middle seat.

- frequent flyers, not obese


Its rude, you take two seats next to each other. No one wants to sit in the middle of your conversation, you handing things back and forth, etc. I have no issue with a middle seat but I don't want you touching me nor do I want to hear your conversations or stuff being passed back and forth.


+1

I don't want to hear how great you think you are (for the duration of the trip), you are not. Not only that, you don't take the middle seat because you want to stuff someone in there like it is some sort of pathetic victory in your pathetic life. Don't pretend you "will take the middle seat" - because we all know that neither one of you want to sit next to each any more than any other flier. Besides, I don't want to so much as smell the two of you. People like you are trying to ruin it for everyone else, and trying to make your problem our problem. You don't belong on an airplane, at all. Second PP nailed it - this is the type of couple that fawns over itself and tries to act like there is someone in the way, when that is how the idiot couple booked their own flight. You know the middle seat is going to be sold, just take it. You probably have separate bedrooms and bathrooms to avoid touching or smelling each other -- WTH would I want to?


We always use this strategy, and I always offer the window if someone comes along for the middle seat. My DH needs the aisle directly to his left due to an old knee injury and the fact that he is 6’3”.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:59     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.


This. I'm not sure why more people aren't pointing the finger here.


Yeah, but people see POC and want to jump in to help, I probably would too. Now that I know the background of what really happened, the whole story is different. Why was she cussing to the flight attendant, when she (or he) deliberately booked their seats to not touch each other?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:57     Subject: Re:This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The way the blonde complained was stupid and uncalled for, HOWEVER, I get where she is coming from. I can’t stand strangers touching me or my body brushing against them, had I been in her place I would have quietly asked for a replacement seat. I would have opted for another flight rather than such gross body contact with two strangers. Fat people were incredibly rude in booking the aisle and window, I mean who the hell is going to sit in the middle for 5hrs????

Also, the nurse spoke like she walked right out of the projects, she could have handled this with maturity.


Those fat people were downright rude then had the audacity to complain about being fat shamed lol I met more blue collar ppl with more class and education than the 'nurse'. I'm glad the blonde spoke up about how uncomfortable she was. Blondes always seem to be so outspoken. I can't imagine how many shy uncomfortable PC people were subject to the middle seat between the 2 fat ones on their weekly flights!


Blondes are very outspoken, now that you mention it! Of my close friends, my blonde buddies are the most sassy, hands down. They seem to take crap from no one, I really admire that. I think that there are people who don't expect blondes to stand up for themselves, and they get indignant about it. LOL.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:55     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.


This. I'm not sure why more people aren't pointing the finger here.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:54     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Good customer service means making all your customers welcome. Airlines could:

- have some bigger seats that are more expensive but aren't double the price of others.
- be clear about seat sizes and distance between seats in the coming process
- dont move or rebook people who have chosen a bigger seat for this reason
- dont give away extra seats that are purchased for this reason
- don't overbook flights
- don't charge extra for seat selection


They already have a lot of that and/or it won't address the problem.

If you want a bigger seat, pay for first class. I travel a lot for work but I know my trip plans many months in advance. First class, when bought far ahead, is the same price as buying economy class a month or two ahead.

Seat sizes are easily found on seatguru.com and the airline's website. It's not hidden at all.

Seat selection is a value to customers.. they should charge for it if people are willing to pay. Besides, that won't solve the issue if 2 large people traveling together choose to sit in the same row/section.

I agree airlines shouldnt' give away extra seats -- I didn't realize this was so common.


The issue is the two larger adults clearly planned this to either get an empty middle seat or let someone else have the space burden. They should have picked two seats together instead of selfishly putting a stranger in the middle of them. I would have been pissed. I've had it happen and its miserable. She should have handled it better asking for a seat change, but most likely there were not any extra seats. The larger folks should should have put her on the isle and taken the window and middle.


I bet they at least know how to spell aisle since they were clever enough to go for this seat strategy.


+1

My DH and I do this all of the time. Why would you intentionally sit in a middle seat? If the middle seat gets taken then you can switch but if you book a middle seat you will definitely have a middle seat.

- frequent flyers, not obese


Its rude, you take two seats next to each other. No one wants to sit in the middle of your conversation, you handing things back and forth, etc. I have no issue with a middle seat but I don't want you touching me nor do I want to hear your conversations or stuff being passed back and forth.


+1

I don't want to hear how great you think you are (for the duration of the trip), you are not. Not only that, you don't take the middle seat because you want to stuff someone in there like it is some sort of pathetic victory in your pathetic life. Don't pretend you "will take the middle seat" - because we all know that neither one of you want to sit next to each any more than any other flier. Besides, I don't want to so much as smell the two of you. People like you are trying to ruin it for everyone else, and trying to make your problem our problem. You don't belong on an airplane, at all. Second PP nailed it - this is the type of couple that fawns over itself and tries to act like there is someone in the way, when that is how the idiot couple booked their own flight. You know the middle seat is going to be sold, just take it. You probably have separate bedrooms and bathrooms to avoid touching or smelling each other -- WTH would I want to?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:53     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.


The women had a lot of options and chose to act like a raging b1tch. Her behavior is 100% on her.



The real b1tches were the obese "madam and gentleman"
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:52     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
I think people that heavy should not fly. It is bad for the environment, they would be better off walking anyways.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:48     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:If those two people were flying together, my money says they bought the aisle and window in hopes that the middle seat would be unused and then they get a free extra seat to spread.

I know so many people who do this and take this gamble. The other woman was super rude though, it was not the way to handle it.


exactly. Once they realized someone bought the middle seat, one of them should have scooted over to be next to his/her spouse and let the lady at least have 1 normal side
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:47     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Ironically, this woman is not (eh hmm) petite. Probably never dawned on her she was given that seat because other people thought she was to big
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:46     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:LOL "I eat salad". What a nutcase.


This. I hope somebody told her it’s not working for her.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2019 09:46     Subject: This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.
Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.


The women had a lot of options and chose to act like a raging b1tch. Her behavior is 100% on her.