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Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

standardized test scores does not equate to being educated well nor to potential in class.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

MA.

Another example of town-based districts that amplify the impact of essentially segregated towns. Show me a MA school district with the demographics of MCPS that is performing better than MCPS.

I'm not saying MCPS isn't at fault -- they NEVER should have tried to implement their own curriculum -- but you can't compare the district's performance to a state that has town-based districts.

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Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

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Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

Are you kidding? CA schools are kind of terrible. They don't even teach algebra there until the 10th grade.

generally agree, MCPS is about 10 years following it.

however https://www.acalanes.k12.ca.us/ was not.

Our family can't make heads nor tails out of MCPS and we've been here since January trying it out. You all deserve better.

It's really a separate thread. But MCPS math curriculum is trash. It's not simply that your DC's teacher is being held up by slow students. Even at full pace the class is a stripped down version of what algebra should be.

With the advent of Common Core, CA schools do not allow MSers to take Algebra, and the rate of MSers there taking advanced math has dropped.

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-edu-algebra-segregation-20160323-snap-htmlstory.html

https://www.kqed.org/news/10610214/san-francisco-middle-schools-no-longer-teaching-algebra-1


IMO, MCPS with all its problems (and I have been a huge "whiner" on here about the new magnet acceptance process) is still better than most of CA's public school system.

I used to live in CA until a few years ago, grew up in LAUSD, and still have friends there who have kids in MS.

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Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

MA.

Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

There are no "west county MCPS school districts". MCPS is the school district. And Montgomery County simply is not comparable to Lafayette/Moraga/Orinda, for obvious reasons.

"Top public schools" doesn't mean "exclusive public schools where almost all of the students come from affluent educated families" -- or at least it shouldn't.

Sounds like we agree. MCPS does not educate children from educated families well.

No, we don't agree. MCPS has everybody. Orinda public schools have rich kids. That's not a top public school district; that's a top poor-people-excluding policy. You're just like these people: https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

Are you kidding? CA schools are kind of terrible. They don't even teach algebra there until the 10th grade.

generally agree, MCPS is about 10 years following it.

however https://www.acalanes.k12.ca.us/ was not.

Our family can't make heads nor tails out of MCPS and we've been here since January trying it out. You all deserve better.

It's really a separate thread. But MCPS math curriculum is trash. It's not simply that your DC's teacher is being held up by slow students. Even at full pace the class is a stripped down version of what algebra should be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

There are no "west county MCPS school districts". MCPS is the school district. And Montgomery County simply is not comparable to Lafayette/Moraga/Orinda, for obvious reasons.

"Top public schools" doesn't mean "exclusive public schools where almost all of the students come from affluent educated families" -- or at least it shouldn't.

Sounds like we agree. MCPS does not educate children from educated families well.