Anonymous
02/16/2018 07:04
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about HGC students from CCES and Barnsley? Are they doing better than Cold Spring kids?
Page 20, 17:09, so far only bad news for Barnsley. No news report from CCES as far as I can remember.
No news report from anywhere. This is DCUM. DCUM is not a news outlet. DCUM is an Internet message board. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
The year my smart kid didn't get into a MS magnet, I didn't post on DCUM to say: my kid didn't get into the MS magnet; this proves that the admissions process is flawed and that MCPS hates smart kids.
And did your DC get 4 99s, have straight As at an HGC vs. admitted kids having maybe one 98 or 99 and lower scores in the other three categories?
Anonymous
02/16/2018 06:58
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Plus the smart kids in home school will not be together. They will be sprinkled into different classes in home middle schools, because after all, all classes are honors class now.
Yes. this. This is a real problem. Then the teacher can't expand curriculum to meet such a wide range and spends bulk of time/energy to help the ones below the bar.
Anonymous
02/16/2018 06:50
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about HGC students from CCES and Barnsley? Are they doing better than Cold Spring kids?
Page 20, 17:09, so far only bad news for Barnsley. No news report from CCES as far as I can remember.
No news report from anywhere. This is DCUM. DCUM is not a news outlet. DCUM is an Internet message board. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
The year my smart kid didn't get into a MS magnet, I didn't post on DCUM to say: my kid didn't get into the MS magnet; this proves that the admissions process is flawed and that MCPS hates smart kids.
Anonymous
02/16/2018 00:40
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:What about HGC students from CCES and Barnsley? Are they doing better than Cold Spring kids?
Page 20, 17:09, so far only bad news for Barnsley. No news report from CCES as far as I can remember.
Anonymous
02/16/2018 00:26
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
What about HGC students from CCES and Barnsley? Are they doing better than Cold Spring kids?
Anonymous
02/16/2018 00:08
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those that are shocked by difficulty in admission, doesn't this FAQ from MCPS cover a lot of it:
My child scores for the various criteria are in the 90+ percentiles, why did my child not get
selected?
This year, the process looked at all fifth grade elementary students in 80 elementary schools. This
changed our examination of student need for magnet programs to considering over 4,000 Grade 5
students – a sharp increase to the previous traditional parent application process which yielded a look
at fewer students, 700 to 800 applicants total.
This year’s process included looking at the Grade 5 report card, reading level, math enrichment access,
MAP-R and MAP-M, PARCC performance in reading and math, student questionnaire, student voice
and the outside assessment. An additional variable of looking at students through the lens of comparable
academic peer group within a school accessing enriched and acceleration instruction in core content
areas, was part of the process.
Your child, while high performing, has an academic peer group within her local school and doesn’t
present as an outlier within that group. We encourage you to work with your local middle school
principal for programming and grouping practices.
What a shame for the last sentence on this FAQ answer! It’s like it’s all your fault to be smart and work hard and can afford a W cluster house. Now wipe your own ass cos it’s none of my business any more. Shame on MCPS!
+1 That's really ridiculous.
+2. They encourage parents to 'work with middle school principal for grouping practices'? So now it's the parents' job to hound teachers to create 'programming and grouping' for their children?
That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially given the fact that there is no clearly defined curriculum, very little information on existing grouping and programming, and, most importantly, no guarantees that anyone anywhere will take parents' suggestions seriously.
How ironic that they are now putting the onus on the parents of these high performers, after their choice study found that certain students did not know of magnet programs (hence, the removal of the parent application.) I guess these students whose parents are not well informed do not have to worry about this new burden. I feel sorry for the principals at some of these middle schools.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:58
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:
What a shame for the last sentence on this FAQ answer! It’s like it’s all your fault to be smart and work hard and can afford a W cluster house. Now wipe your own ass cos it’s none of my business any more. Shame on MCPS!
Build that [socio-economic] wall!
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:57
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Plus the smart kids in home school will not be together. They will be sprinkled into different classes in home middle schools, because after all, all classes are honors class now.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:54
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those that are shocked by difficulty in admission, doesn't this FAQ from MCPS cover a lot of it:
My child scores for the various criteria are in the 90+ percentiles, why did my child not get
selected?
This year, the process looked at all fifth grade elementary students in 80 elementary schools. This
changed our examination of student need for magnet programs to considering over 4,000 Grade 5
students – a sharp increase to the previous traditional parent application process which yielded a look
at fewer students, 700 to 800 applicants total.
This year’s process included looking at the Grade 5 report card, reading level, math enrichment access,
MAP-R and MAP-M, PARCC performance in reading and math, student questionnaire, student voice
and the outside assessment. An additional variable of looking at students through the lens of comparable
academic peer group within a school accessing enriched and acceleration instruction in core content
areas, was part of the process.
Your child, while high performing, has an academic peer group within her local school and doesn’t
present as an outlier within that group. We encourage you to work with your local middle school
principal for programming and grouping practices.
What a shame for the last sentence on this FAQ answer! It’s like it’s all your fault to be smart and work hard and can afford a W cluster house. Now wipe your own ass cos it’s none of my business any more. Shame on MCPS!
+1 That's really ridiculous.
+2. They encourage parents to 'work with middle school principal for grouping practices'? So now it's the parents' job to hound teachers to create 'programming and grouping' for their children?
That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially given the fact that there is no clearly defined curriculum, very little information on existing grouping and programming, and, most importantly, no guarantees that anyone anywhere will take parents' suggestions seriously.
+3 This is seriously unacceptable. The onus is now on the parents to push the MS? Ridiculous.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:52
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will TPMS dominant the math and computer competitions in future? Will TPMS be able to form a science bowll team? Does MCPS care it reputation?
Nope. They just want to close the achievement gap by lowering the bar
My kid is nearly done with MCPS I really feel sad for the kids in Cold Spring ES
I don't even have a kid in 5th grade, but after hearing and reading about what has transpired at Cold Spring ES, I feel very disappointed in MCPS. Children, be it at Cold Spring or other clusters, who show aptitude should be enriched with the proper accelerated curriculum. Throwing a bunch of smart kids together is not the same as providing them with the needed resources to help them thrive.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:43
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Will TPMS dominant the math and computer competitions in future? Will TPMS be able to form a science bowll team? Does MCPS care it reputation?
To add in some news, several TPMS kids ranked top on the mathcounts last year didn’t get accepted to Blair this year. Apparently they are changing HS GT as well. Who knows what could happen to the CES test and selection that will happen in next two weeks.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:41
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Will TPMS dominant the math and computer competitions in future? Will TPMS be able to form a science bowll team? Does MCPS care it reputation?
Nope. They just want to close the achievement gap by lowering the bar
My kid is nearly done with MCPS I really feel sad for the kids in Cold Spring ES
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:36
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Will TPMS dominant the math and computer competitions in future? Will TPMS be able to form a science bowll team? Does MCPS care it reputation?
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:35
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those that are shocked by difficulty in admission, doesn't this FAQ from MCPS cover a lot of it:
My child scores for the various criteria are in the 90+ percentiles, why did my child not get
selected?
This year, the process looked at all fifth grade elementary students in 80 elementary schools. This
changed our examination of student need for magnet programs to considering over 4,000 Grade 5
students – a sharp increase to the previous traditional parent application process which yielded a look
at fewer students, 700 to 800 applicants total.
This year’s process included looking at the Grade 5 report card, reading level, math enrichment access,
MAP-R and MAP-M, PARCC performance in reading and math, student questionnaire, student voice
and the outside assessment. An additional variable of looking at students through the lens of comparable
academic peer group within a school accessing enriched and acceleration instruction in core content
areas, was part of the process.
Your child, while high performing, has an academic peer group within her local school and doesn’t
present as an outlier within that group. We encourage you to work with your local middle school
principal for programming and grouping practices.
What a shame for the last sentence on this FAQ answer! It’s like it’s all your fault to be smart and work hard and can afford a W cluster house. Now wipe your own ass cos it’s none of my business any more. Shame on MCPS!
+1 That's really ridiculous.
+2. They encourage parents to 'work with middle school principal for grouping practices'? So now it's the parents' job to hound teachers to create 'programming and grouping' for their children?
That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially given the fact that there is no clearly defined curriculum, very little information on existing grouping and programming, and, most importantly, no guarantees that anyone anywhere will take parents' suggestions seriously.
Anonymous
02/15/2018 23:31
Subject: Magnet MS results - Takoma Park & Eastern - anyone heard today?
Parents should call to get your kid's actual scores on the cogat test. The percentile doesn't tell much.